Urban clubs are rigged...im not making money?
What’s frustrating is that it’s the SAME girls making all the money from customers every night. Like i’ve never had the chance nor opportunity to walk up into some money and get rained on. I’ve yet to make past $600 at the club despite working at onyx vanity stadium etc. Event nights when celebrities come in it’s the same girls somehow getting into these vip sections every time, or being put on stage when the guest is ready to throw money. It makes me angry and resentful. Like what do i have to do? its enough i’m getting naked and touched on but to not even make profit it’s sad. I’m tired of being an underdog. Im trying to make money for a new apartment, car, and school. It’s been a year i deserve it already. How do i make this money?
*side note: i do work at gentleman’s clubs from time to time but it’s not my cup of tea. I hate being touched on and foundled and doing lap dances expecially with gross old men. I just want to shake my ass get rained on and leave.
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Check out some of the threads in club chat, also, there was very recently a thread, "afraid to approach &twerk" or something similar in title.
Good luck:)
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I've never worked in an urban club, but are you tipping out the VIP hosts and waitresses generously when you have a decent night? Money talks, as you know. Being friendly to them and helping them out when you can goes a long way.
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no i don’t bc i barely even have good nights where i’m able to tip ppl out lol
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There’s a couple different factors that come into play when working at an urban club. Those girls that are getting pulled on stage or in vip sections when there’s celebrities in the club is because they either their got their bodies done, they’re pros on the pole, and/or they’re fuckin and suckin the promoters, securities, etc. Me personally, I would rather not be in a celebrity’s or special guest’s section because while girls are busy trying to get on stage or in their section and then having to split money 5 to 10 ways, they’re not noticing the non-celebrity guys in sections that have stacks of money waiting for girls to come over.
Also note, in urban clubs you gotta have an aggressive hustle. You can’t wait on a guy to throw money on you. In urban clubs, I look for the guys with money on their hands, go up to them, and start dancing. Collect the money and repeat. You will get girls that will try to hop in your pile. ALWAYS PICK YOUR MONEY UP BEFORE THEY COME OVER. Or you will be splitting. Best thing about it urban clubs is that you don’t really have to create conversation with these guys. They’re gonna throw money because it’s all a show. You just have to be the one to have that aggressive hustle
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^^^^is soooo right. A lot of times the club will pay girls for their bbl’s and put them on stage just so the club can get their money back. Some girls are just paying off their debt to the club... but side note: this goes for top earners and “sharks” lol in the club that aren’t doing extras.... the staff is your money making partners etc waitresses and bartenders. If I’m with a customer that comments on how beautiful one of them are I always call them over so the customer can give them their props. When the customer is having a good time with both he WILL PAY. Therefore when big spenders come in the bartenders and waitress will most likely give you a heads up because they know you won’t stop them from making their money and yours. Kind of like tag teaming. At the end of the day guys will throw money on whoever they want
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Agreed 100000%. Yea I find celebrities a waste of time.
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Graci_00
There’s a couple different factors that come into play when working at an urban club. Those girls that are getting pulled on stage or in vip sections when there’s celebrities in the club is because they either their got their bodies done, they’re pros on the pole, and/or they’re fuckin and suckin the promoters, securities, etc. Me personally, I would rather not be in a celebrity’s or special guest’s section because while girls are busy trying to get on stage or in their section and then having to split money 5 to 10 ways, they’re not noticing the non-celebrity guys in sections that have stacks of money waiting for girls to come over.
Also note, in urban clubs you gotta have an aggressive hustle. You can’t wait on a guy to throw money on you. In urban clubs, I look for the guys with money on their hands, go up to them, and start dancing. Collect the money and repeat. You will get girls that will try to hop in your pile. ALWAYS PICK YOUR MONEY UP BEFORE THEY COME OVER. Or you will be splitting. Best thing about it urban clubs is that you don’t really have to create conversation with these guys. They’re gonna throw money because it’s all a show. You just have to be the one to have that aggressive hustle
when i do go to the guys with mad ones in their hand they’ll briefly tip me some ones then stop. it’s like the most i’ll get out of them is 20 fml :((((((
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salvaje
when i do go to the guys with mad ones in their hand they’ll briefly tip me some ones then stop. it’s like the most i’ll get out of them is 20 fml :((((((
urban clubs are all show, and there's always certain top girls that will get the money. either come on slow nights where there's not a lot of competition, or be extremely aggressive. be prepared to fight lol.
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Like everyone else said, at urban clubs your success boils down to 1. AGGRESSIVE hustle/bad bitch mentality, 2. enhanced body (BBLs, boob job mostly), 3. stage presence and pole/booty shaking ability, and 4. social media - being "Instagram famous". Club politics happen in all tiers of clubs. You get in good with the hosts and they'll always drag you over to the money. You're going to feel like an underdog at first because you're new. There is a learning curve. No one starts at the top, you have to work your way there.
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Another way to get put on the good stage sets is to tip whoever calls the girls on stage. Jhonni Blaze (for example) used to tip the DJs $100 and she'd be put on stage to make that back times 10.
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And if you're used to working in the big clubs but aren't one of the top girls there, you might want to try a smaller hood club where you would be the top girl. When I went to Vlive in Houston, I didn't make shit and there was money everywhere. When I went to a dive bar in Houston with roaches all through the dressing room, I made ~$1,000 in like 2 hours.
I do the same thing now in NYC. I wasn't consistently making much at Lust and Starlets but I make a lot of money at a hood spot in the Bronx and holes in the wall in Jersey.
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Girl I understand you completely. Being slim in a urban is hard but if you find the right customers they wil make your night. I usually always make money on stage being a pole dancer but I do pretty okay on the floor too. I'm not aggressive but a lot of men seem to like it. I realized when it comes to urban clubs it's strictly about ass doesn't matter how pretty you are. One thing I've learned is talk to everyone even if everyone says no keep making rounds someone will say yes eventually.
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Kandi920
Girl I understand you completely. Being slim in a urban is hard but if you find the right customers they wil make your night. I usually always make money on stage being a pole dancer but I do pretty okay on the floor too. I'm not aggressive but a lot of men seem to like it. I realized when it comes to urban clubs it's strictly about ass doesn't matter how pretty you are. One thing I've learned is talk to everyone even if everyone says no keep making rounds someone will say yes eventually.
see i wish i had some type of talent to set myself aside from the other girls but i don’t lol i have a nice sized ass for my build but it’s not overtly huge like the rest of these girls with work done i’m just pretty but that like you said doesnt make money lol i’ve seen gorilla looking bitches 9/10 make more money then me and i’m always perplexed but never suprised. See the thing with going up to everyone at an urban club i never have the confidence to do so i feel so awkward especially since i can barely twerk good. also my pride stops me from doing so almost as if i feel ppl should come up to me
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Yeah but remember they came to see us. Lol. I have my own pole and learned off YouTube. It's worth it esp because when your on stage your adervisting yourself so doing doing pole work instead of shaking your ass still gets customers attention tips won't be like the big booty girl but it's still decent. Plus you Usually can get a dance from customers who tips you on stage too. Plus it's always extra money when the floor is slow. I'm want to get my butt done so I can real money showers on stage
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Kandi920
Yeah but remember they came to see us. Lol. I have my own pole and learned off YouTube. It's worth it esp because when your on stage your adervisting yourself so doing doing pole work instead of shaking your ass still gets customers attention tips won't be like the big booty girl but it's still decent. Plus you Usually can get a dance from customers who tips you on stage too. Plus it's always extra money when the floor is slow. I'm want to get my butt done so I can real money showers on stage ��
installing a pole in my house is pretty much unnecessary bc i don’t plan on making this shit last any longer than it should have. I’m just trying to make a quick large sum of money which is why i haven’t quit yet i just wanna at least make 1000 i would’ve been done dancing a long time ago tbh cus this shit is not for me at all it sounds crazy but i’d rather be a bartender/bartender since it’s less degrading and i could actually promote myself
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also, are you getting your butt for yourself or for the money showers? stripping doesn’t last forever so it might not be a good idea to permanently alter your body just for that but if you just genuinely want to then that’s 100% okay
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it seems like the girls who constantly have guys coming in to make it rain are the ones who heavily promote themselves on social media? idk. i don't have fb or IG so i don't know much about that.. just an observation
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I'm getting it for me and it's non-invasive. Most do promo but it's all about the body. From what I see. But everyone's different.
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salvaje
I’m just trying to make a quick large sum of money which is why i haven’t quit yet i just wanna at least make 1000 i would’ve been done dancing a long time ago tbh cus this shit is not for me at all it sounds crazy but i’d rather be a bartender/bartender since it’s less degrading and i could actually promote myself
Wow, if you hate the job that much, then gtfo of it.
If your attitude at work is anything like some of your posts here, no wonder you are having trouble. I have hardly seen you say one damn positive thing about yourself, your confidence honestly sounds like shit and confidence is one of, if not THE most important things about this job. It's not that we have to all be exploding barrels of sunshine every shift, but customers pick up on our negative moods and they are damn good at picking up on the ones who truly hate their job. The only clubs that are really 'rigged' are the ones that charge huge fees and take sky-high cuts of your earnings.
There are many factors that will affect your earnings no matter where you go. Try other clubs, regardless of how divey or higher end they seem. You can suck it up and hop around until you find a better fit, or you can pack it in. Those are really your only two options here. Promoting yourself (I am guessing you mean via social media, but in any form really) also not only takes time, it comes with the same effort requirement and risk factor regardless of whether you're dancing or bartending. And on the subject of bar jobs in general -- you will make much steadier (and oftentimes better overall) money as a barback than as a bartender.
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Yeah you should definitely just cocktail waitress or bartend for the kind of money you're making.
Negative attitude = no money. I watch girls shoot themselves in the foot constantly every night... and I know 9/10 times I have a BAD night at work it literally always comes down to my energy or my attitude. It's maybe only the club a handful of times if that, but yah... Id just stop dancing and focus on putting your energy into making money in a way you enjoy.
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To echo the above posts, there is a fine line between being straight talker who keeps it real and being someone who doesn't know how to edit their comments/mood. The bitterness, the snottiness has to be turned down to a palatable level. You are there to hit them with a Nicki Minaj/Cardi B level of confidence and playfulness. If you can't walk up and share your sexuality without feeling degraded. Push off freeloading hands without absorbing their dehumanizing attitude, this job is a veeeery bad fit for you.
Maybe trying other clubs will help, maybe self adjustment will work. But a year is not much time to have mastered ll the prts of dancing sufficiently. You're expectations are too optimistic given how cliqued up most clubs are. t lest if you were there with some work mates you could approach as a group...