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I suck at being a stripper.
It's really frustrating to get dances because guys would rather pay $5 lap dance where they get to touch. They expect so much and want to pay little. What ticks me off the most is that whenever I ask if they're interested they say, "I'll think about it." Like you're not going to think about it. It's either a yes or no.
Okay, you may be saying, "Maybe stripping isn't for you." 1) Fuck off, I enjoy stripping. What I don't enjoy is talking to people due to my social anxiety. 2) I try my hardest to make a lot of money and even though I get shit is thrown at me that doesn't mean I'm giving up. I don't give up that easily.
Maybe the club I'm working at is full of broke men? I don't know. I'm still technically a baby stripper, terrible hustler, and terrible in general. Harsh? Oh well.
I'm a baby stripper in Florida and the club I'm working in happens to be all nude in a small town. Are there any clubs where it's easy to get dances?
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What part of Florida are you in?
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If I had to do it all over again I would have picked something that was a good fit for my personality, but on the other had I have really good people skills now. I did what I had to do to survive.
The industry has really gone downhill I suspect it’s only getting worse. I suggest you find a better club if possible.
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What part of FL are you dancing in? The club/location can be the problem. I'd try new clubs and possibly travel to see if there is anywhere else that is a better fit for you. If you just can't hack it, then you need to consider whether or not you enjoy stripping enough to keep doing it despite not making "stripper money". Alternatively, you might want to try camming. Camming tends to be easier for those with social anxiety and you have a block button so you can kick people out if they're not spending.
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I don't know your personality/hustle or the kind of club you're working but it does sound like your clientele are just shitty cheap ppl and it might be having an overall effect on your hustle/attitude. I know this happens to me when business is bad.
When people try to negotiate or complain about prices I'm like, how much DO YOU think touching me is worth? It's just weird and misogynistic for men to feel entitled to our bodies for less than a meal at applebees. For these dudes, it's gotta click that YOU are fuckin valuable, because men don't intrinsically see our value. Sometimes it takes a knocking to the head for men to get it.
One tactic with a cheapy who might actually have money to spend is to socially shame them with a concerned/honest face, like "omg, $5..who does that? How much do you think I'm worth? I'm appalled, this has never happened to me" or some shit.. People HATE being uncool. Shame is the most vulnerable position for a man to be in. This convo. can be flirty, or it can be a reality check if it comes down to it. If you don't have customers who can chew on a different perspective, fuck em & fuck that club.
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In Gainesville
I danced in Orlando once in this club called Le Palace. They are not white girl friendly.. The house fee was like $30 and I came out with like $26. Don't get me started with their dressing room...
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I don't think camming is for me because I don't want to masturbate on cam. However, I do enjoy giving massages and cuddling in the vip room. Idk I like that kind of connection with customers.
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Thank you, shitty customers do tend to affect my attitude and my manager once complained that I'm young and good looking there's no reason for me to not sell enough dances I should be selling like 5 or 10 vip dances.
There was this cheap ass who wanted to do a $30 lap dance while touching me like no I'm too expensive to touch honey. Then there was this old geezer who played hard to get and would not answer if he wanted a dance or not. It was like wtf...
Hopefully, I don't ever see him again because he was very disgusting when I told him I'd roleplay as a stepdaughter then he had the audacity to complain about his stepdaughter not touching him.
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Originally Posted by
calicowhisper
It's really frustrating to get dances because guys would rather pay $5 lap dance where they get to touch. They expect so much and want to pay little. What ticks me off the most is that whenever I ask if they're interested they say, "I'll think about it." Like you're not going to think about it. It's either a yes or no.
Okay, you may be saying, "Maybe stripping isn't for you." 1) Fuck off, I enjoy stripping. What I don't enjoy is talking to people due to my social anxiety. 2) I try my hardest to make a lot of money and even though I get shit is thrown at me that doesn't mean I'm giving up. I don't give up that easily.
Maybe the club I'm working at is full of broke men? I don't know. I'm still technically a baby stripper, terrible hustler, and terrible in general. Harsh? Oh well.
I'm a baby stripper in Florida and the club I'm working in happens to be all nude in a small town. Are there any clubs where it's easy to get dances?
If social anxiety is the thing that you think is preventing you from doing well, you need to address that. There’s a lot of other girls on here who have similar issues and have found coping mechanisms. I’m sure you can find a lot of info if you do a search.
Because you can be at the best club with the best customers but if you can’t connect with them and close a sale, you’re shit out of luck.
Also, there’s a lot of girls that love stripping but it’s just not for them. If you’re not making on an hourly basis (at the very least) what you would at a square job, than you’re probably better suited for something else. Give yourself a grace period as a baby stripper but if that’s the case after a month or so, I would probably find something else.
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Layla.00
If social anxiety is the thing that you think is preventing you from doing well, you need to address that. There’s a lot of other girls on here who have similar issues and have found coping mechanisms. I’m sure you can find a lot of info if you do a search.
Because you can be at the best club with the best customers but if you can’t connect with them and close a sale, you’re shit out of luck.
Also, there’s a lot of girls that love stripping but it’s just not for them. If you’re not making on an hourly basis (at the very least) what you would at a square job, than you’re probably better suited for something else. Give yourself a grace period as a baby stripper but if that’s the case after a month or so, I would probably find something else.
Also try to figure out who the top earner is at your club and how much they’re bringing home. If it’s an amount you wouldn’t be happy with, find another place to work. You won’t know the exact numbers but just a general idea.
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I started off with horrible social anxiety! I began at a dive (which is a great place to start as a baby stripper), and basically just sat at the bar drinking pineapple juice between my stage sets, not talking to anybody, for my first YEAR. It took me awhile to develop my current skill set... lots of nights of just watching other women hustle while i stuck to the shadows. It honestly just took me time and self work to get over my issues and start approaching customers for dances.
The easiest way to start learning to hustle, IMO, is to strike up conversations with men who come up to the stage for your sets. You already know that they're interested, so the next step is to start interacting with these guys more during your sets. You can start with just a little hello, giggle, thank you routine and work your way into more complex interactions/ hustles. Many guys will practically ask you for a dance off of your stage set.
I also firmly believe that, once you've had a great $$$ night, that's one of the best kick-in-the-butt events that will inspire a shy, baby stripper to start putting herself out there! Once you know it's possible, you'll be looking for the next big-money night!
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charlie61
I started off with horrible social anxiety! I began at a dive (which is a great place to start as a baby stripper), and basically just sat at the bar drinking pineapple juice between my stage sets, not talking to anybody, for my first YEAR. It took me awhile to develop my current skill set... lots of nights of just watching other women hustle while i stuck to the shadows. It honestly just took me time and self work to get over my issues and start approaching customers for dances.
The easiest way to start learning to hustle, IMO, is to strike up conversations with men who come up to the stage for your sets. You already know that they're interested, so the next step is to start interacting with these guys more during your sets. You can start with just a little hello, giggle, thank you routine and work your way into more complex interactions/ hustles. Many guys will practically ask you for a dance off of your stage set.
I also firmly believe that, once you've had a great $$$ night, that's one of the best kick-in-the-butt events that will inspire a shy, baby stripper to start putting herself out there! Once you know it's possible, you'll be looking for the next big-money night!
Is it more money at a club where they serve alcohol or a nude club with no alcohol?
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My first stage set this group of about 5 men who were sitting at the stage got up and walked away. It was SO embarrassing I almost cried after, but I ended up going to talk to one guy who took pity on me and tipped me 10 dollars on stage. Idk if he kept just being nice or I really won him over but he ended up getting the first VIP room of the evening with me. I don't even know what possessed me to make an effort that night - I think it was because I already invested a fair amount of money into clothes and makeup when I was broke as shit at the time. It was better if I was tipsy but even after years people constantly were telling me I look really awkward or uncomfortable on stage. But who gives a shit when I was still leaving with good money?
I know it's annoying but sometimes 'maybe later' or 'I'll think about it' really does mean 'maybe later'! Just smile cutely tell them to have fun and you'll check on them later. Don't let it ruin your vibe. In fact, I would argue after a slump you should really go into the shift with zero expectations. That way you never get disappointed or frustrated and literally your night can only get better. At the same time be scouting other clubs.
Remember to be sensual and not overtly sexual or definitely not a regular, obnoxious as hell sales person.
Undeniably things have gotten worse over the years but I would definitely still be dancing on the weekends if I could. All the clubs within an hour of me having scheduling requirements that are too strict.
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lynn2009
My first stage set this group of about 5 men who were sitting at the stage got up and walked away. It was SO embarrassing I almost cried after, but I ended up going to talk to one guy who took pity on me and tipped me 10 dollars on stage. Idk if he kept just being nice or I really won him over but he ended up getting the first VIP room of the evening with me. I don't even know what possessed me to make an effort that night - I think it was because I already invested a fair amount of money into clothes and makeup when I was broke as shit at the time. It was better if I was tipsy but even after years people constantly were telling me I look really awkward or uncomfortable on stage. But who gives a shit when I was still leaving with good money?
I know it's annoying but sometimes 'maybe later' or 'I'll think about it' really does mean 'maybe later'! Just smile cutely tell them to have fun and you'll check on them later. Don't let it ruin your vibe. In fact, I would argue after a slump you should really go into the shift with zero expectations. That way you never get disappointed or frustrated and literally your night can only get better. At the same time be scouting other clubs.
Remember to be sensual and not overtly sexual or definitely not a regular, obnoxious as hell sales person.
Undeniably things have gotten worse over the years but I would definitely still be dancing on the weekends if I could. All the clubs within an hour of me having scheduling requirements that are too strict.
Thank you! Sometimes I do it the other way by helping dancers get dances if I've already gotten a lot than the other girls. I know it's terribly weird and wrong of me since im an independent contractor and you guys don't need help but hey, I need good karma!
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What helped me was drinking a little at work before any stage sets or hustling for dances. Not the best advice or healthiest but it def took the edge off & I started leaving with more money. Good luck!
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calicowhisper
Is it more money at a club where they serve alcohol or a nude club with no alcohol?
I lived in a state where bars could have nudity and alcohol. In general, establishments that serve alcohol will result in tipsy, spending customers. I've never worked in a juice bar.
I should also note that i've never had a single drink before or during a shift in my entire dancing career. For me, that'd be a slippery slope. I'd let customers buy me drinks and pretend to sip on them..
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charlie61
I lived in a state where bars could have nudity and alcohol. In general, establishments that serve alcohol will result in tipsy, spending customers. I've never worked in a juice bar.
I should also note that i've never had a single drink before or during a shift in my entire dancing career. For me, that'd be a slippery slope. I'd let customers buy me drinks and pretend to sip on them..
Whaaat? I wish my club would serve alcohol but the stupid law prevents that from happening. I don't know any club in Florida that serves both and is probably 2 or 4 hours away from me.
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calicowhisper
Okay, you may be saying, "Maybe stripping isn't for you." 1) Fuck off, I enjoy stripping.
Well now. If this is the kind of attitude you're projecting, that's probably half the issue. Please don't ask us for advice and then preemptively say "fuck you" to one of the responses you might get. Just because you enjoy something doesn't mean it's 'for you' in the sense that you should do it for a living. Personal example, I enjoyed modeling, but pursuing it as a full-time career was definitely not compatible with my personality :shrug:
If stripping really isn't for you, there is absolutely no shame in it. It's a hard profession (made doubly so by social anxiety) and it's more a sales job than anything; there's plenty of people who are fine saying "sales isn't for me". Agreed with Layla that if you're not making *bare minimum* at least what a straight job pays after a couple months of trying, it's definitely not your bag.
It also sounds like you're in a fairly high contact area. If every other girl in your area allows touching for a $30 dance, you're gonna have a hell of a time not allowing it. If your comfort levels won't adjust to match, you'll need to change clubs.
How are you phrasing it when you ask for a dance? Are you literally asking if they're interested? That's a pretty passive way to do it. You don't want to give them an out, if possible - phrasing it as a statement can help. Look up some of the cute one-liners in Hustle Hut. Learn to overcome objections - any sales book will help you with this, as will Hustle Hut. Think of the most common excuses guys give you and come up with at least one counter-response to each.
Remember: the question is not "yes or no", the question is "how much".
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Selina M
Well now. If this is the kind of attitude you're projecting, that's probably half the issue. Please don't ask us for advice and then preemptively say "fuck you" to one of the responses you might get. Just because you enjoy something doesn't mean it's 'for you' in the sense that you should do it for a living. Personal example, I enjoyed modeling, but pursuing it as a full-time career was definitely not compatible with my personality :shrug:
If stripping really isn't for you, there is absolutely no shame in it. It's a hard profession (made doubly so by social anxiety) and it's more a sales job than anything; there's plenty of people who are fine saying "sales isn't for me". Agreed with Layla that if you're not making *bare minimum* at least what a straight job pays after a couple months of trying, it's definitely not your bag.
It also sounds like you're in a fairly high contact area. If every other girl in your area allows touching for a $30 dance, you're gonna have a hell of a time not allowing it. If your comfort levels won't adjust to match, you'll need to change clubs.
How are you phrasing it when you ask for a dance? Are you literally asking if they're interested? That's a pretty passive way to do it. You don't want to give them an out, if possible - phrasing it as a statement can help. Look up some of the cute one-liners in Hustle Hut. Learn to overcome objections - any sales book will help you with this, as will Hustle Hut. Think of the most common excuses guys give you and come up with at least one counter-response to each.
Remember: the question is not "yes or no", the question is "how much".
I do modeling too and sorry if it came off aggressive. I just really enjoy what I do and guess what? I sold 10 dances made like a grand. Whether stripping is for me or not, I'm definately banking it.
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You can always say I do enough touching for both of us :) Get the $$$ then dance around in positions that they can't really get a quick feel of you. I danced around on them in a weird faster than normal manner & laughed alot pretending to be ticklish making myself obnoxious when they started touching. That stopped that problem LOL.
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calicowhisper
I do modeling too and sorry if it came off aggressive. I just really enjoy what I do and guess what? I sold 10 dances made like a grand. Whether stripping is for me or not, I'm definately banking it.
10 dances and you made a grand? :confused: That's $200 in 90% of clubs...
Now I'm confused, because you came on here saying you're a terrible hustler and needing help, and now you're saying you're banking?
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Last night was a good night apparently. Bunch of drunk college guys showed up and wanted a dance? I'm just as confused as you are. I'm calling it pure luck because honestly, I am a terrible hustler.
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calicowhisper
Last night was a good night apparently. Bunch of drunk college guys showed up and wanted a dance? I'm just as confused as you are. I'm calling it pure luck because honestly, I am a terrible hustler.
Make sure you're not confusing different styles. Good hustling can be subtle, and if you're shy/a bit awkward IRL that's probably going to be what works for you. There are some lines that work on EVERYONE, and even if you don't think you sound convincing you should remember the giant fucking egos all men have, they probably don't notice. No matter what someone told me their job was I'd say "you must be sooooooo smart" and "you must work soooo hard, you need a break!". Be cute, coy, smile, play with your hair and adjust your top. If they ask if you have a boyfriend, say you've been seeing someone but it's not serious. If they ask for your real name be, act a little hesitant, make them promise not to tell anyone and give them a fake real name. Ask them questions, people like to talk about themselves. If someone compliments you say "Sounds like you found what you came for!" and smile. Start by asking for a VIP room, after originally asking for 150+, a 20 dollar dance sounds like a deal. Over time it will all become more natural. Believe me if I can make good money dancing, anyone can. If you are working in a juice bar (ie full nudity but no alcohol not even byob), find a topless club that serves alcohol.
Congratulations on your good night!
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Selina M
10 dances and you made a grand? :confused: That's $200 in 90% of clubs...
Now I'm confused, because you came on here saying you're a terrible hustler and needing help, and now you're saying you're banking?
I think we may have one of those weird fake strippers on our hands ...
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