Help needed for a rich but tight regular
So I've had this regular going on three years now and would love if anyone has some tips they think I could use on him because I feel that what I'm doing isn't working the best lately.
I met him while I was visiting a new city/country for work, great guy, owns a bunch of hotels, super loaded and fun to party with. Before I left we made plans for me and my work wife to join him and his buddies on their upcoming Vegas trip to watch the UFC. The vegas trip went great, he got us to book everything (he's annoyingly paranoid about his wife discovering anything) and then paid us back. Since then he's taken us on a few more trips. He always ends up reimbursing us, and usually we go shopping and give him the bill for that too, but it is always SUCH a fucking hassle to get the money.
He came to our city a few days ago, we organized for him to come see us at our current club but when he showed up he only took us for an hour and scoffed at the price of eeeevverything (drinks, champagne etc) and this is AFTER he tells us his latest Vegas story where he had to pay a 30k bill for their last day there. (After partying with him and knowing him for three years, I know this isn't a bullshit story )
He's coming back to our city next weekend, with the boys he always parties with and we have tentative plans to met up but I'm stuck as to how to get money out of him. He has no problem paying for flights, buying us bottles and dropping cash on his own party, but gets frigid when we talk about him giving us cash so we can book the night off work, giving us tips. It's driving me nuts knowing that he's got so much cash and is being tight with us (stripper problems, am I right? lol)
I know he doesn't like his friends to know he pays for our flights etc when we all travel together, and he isn't really the "yellow/sensitive" type to help for a cause (work wife has bad debt, but aside from them talking in depth about it multiple times and him giving great financial advice, he never offers to just pay it off, put anything towards it), I also don't think he's the "blue/party animal" personalty type... but maybe a little bit?
Is he just a cheap lost cause and I need to accept that he's only good for vacations or is there a way I can change the way he sees it so that he'll be more likely to tip us or give us money to book the night off and party with them when they're in town.
I feel like I've hit a mental hustle wall when it comes to this guy!!
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Think of it this way:
If you went to work for however many days you take off to party with him, how much money would you earn?
Would the money buy you a shopping trip, or a less prestigious vacation with a friend?
Wouldn't a smaller lifestyle with the people YOU CHOOSE to be around be better than being with someone who's 1) not your boyfriend 2) wants his friends to think that you're there because you like him even though he's married (doesn't make you look good).
Dancing buys you the freedom of choice and more control over your life. Don't let this guy take it away.
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I wanted to add that there is a 'cost' for the hassle of you booking everything in your name and then haggling for the money afterward. He's not paying you for that in addition to not paying for your time.
Also, since the expenses are in your name, you are 'tracked' in a monetary way. I would stay away from that.
Since he owns so many businesses, he can purchase tickets, hotels, etc. himself as hotels employ many workers.
How would his spouse know that a ticket purchased wasn't for a job interviewee, or an employee of another hotel etc? Even if she worked there, it would be difficult to track if the company was that big.
I think he's too used to pushing people around and getting his own way. That is probably why he is so successful.
And full of shit when it comes to you.
i would limit my time with him to the club. If he wants to party with you, he can buy you a bottle in a room. if not, well, you have other customers who will enjoy your company while paying you.
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cocoheartt
So I've had this regular going on three years now and would love if anyone has some tips they think I could use on him because I feel that what I'm doing isn't working the best lately.
I met him while I was visiting a new city/country for work, great guy, owns a bunch of hotels, super loaded and fun to party with. Before I left we made plans for me and my work wife to join him and his buddies on their upcoming Vegas trip to watch the UFC. The vegas trip went great, he got us to book everything (he's annoyingly paranoid about his wife discovering anything) and then paid us back. Since then he's taken us on a few more trips. He always ends up reimbursing us, and usually we go shopping and give him the bill for that too, but it is always SUCH a fucking hassle to get the money.
He came to our city a few days ago, we organized for him to come see us at our current club but when he showed up he only took us for an hour and scoffed at the price of eeeevverything (drinks, champagne etc) and this is AFTER he tells us his latest Vegas story where he had to pay a 30k bill for their last day there. (After partying with him and knowing him for three years, I know this isn't a bullshit story )
He's coming back to our city next weekend, with the boys he always parties with and we have tentative plans to met up but I'm stuck as to how to get money out of him. He has no problem paying for flights, buying us bottles and dropping cash on his own party, but gets frigid when we talk about him giving us cash so we can book the night off work, giving us tips. It's driving me nuts knowing that he's got so much cash and is being tight with us (stripper problems, am I right? lol)
I know he doesn't like his friends to know he pays for our flights etc when we all travel together, and he isn't really the "yellow/sensitive" type to help for a cause (work wife has bad debt, but aside from them talking in depth about it multiple times and him giving great financial advice, he never offers to just pay it off, put anything towards it), I also don't think he's the "blue/party animal" personalty type... but maybe a little bit?
Is he just a cheap lost cause and I need to accept that he's only good for vacations or is there a way I can change the way he sees it so that he'll be more likely to tip us or give us money to book the night off and party with them when they're in town.
I feel like I've hit a mental hustle wall when it comes to this guy!!
Girl you’re cutting yourself short! Whenever a guy wants you to hang out with them, you should be having stacks of cash deposited in your account or put into your hands. Example, years ago whenever a friend of mine who was wealthy called me to join him on a trip, dinner, anything... he always deposited no less than 5,000 dollars into my account. He still paid for everything and gave me always another 3-4K for shopping when I arrive. And any man I met, was shelling out money for any time I gave them. I even had a guy friend who would go to his wine storage and get an expensive bottle out, call me and pay me 1000 dollars just to sit with him a have a bottle of wine every other Friday night for 1-2 hours.
This guy is hustling you. You need to be blunt with him and if he doesn’t she’ll out any cash, I wouldn’t hang with him or make any sort of plans.
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He might have debt that is cutting into his discretionary spending money.
IMO go meet someone else. There's plenty of money out there.
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You already gave him TOO much for free. Who cares if he's paying for your flight/hotel/shopping if he's not PAYING YOU to miss work and be there? Why would he spend at the club when he can see you outside for FREE? Also, he is hoping you forget about the flight/hotel so he doesn't have to pay you back. Cut off all contact with this dude. He will either come correct with the funds or he will find another set of girls to play. Goodness knows there isn't a shortage of girls who want "free" vacations.
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Yeah once you agree to a guy just paying for trips/dinners/basic bullshit any dude will pay for for a pretty girl, odds are not good he will ever actually give you cash or pay you on top of that. You need to make this very very clear from the beginning, and even then you're going to get time wasters trying all they can to get free time and attention. Cut your losses, get your butt to work make $$$$$$$
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Op, were you able to turn things around with this customer?
I was curious of the outcome.
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I wouldn't even accept his paid vacations anymore, bc he is still gonna wanna hang out with you for free.
He sounds like the hustler here. Drop him for good. Even if he does come to the club, he's gonna be one of those dudes that sits there like human furniture and chill.