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Have any girls done this??
I am currently dancing in more middle america, I do very well where I am.. I tried to move to NYC and figured I'd make the same money dancing in Manhattan, but I quickly found out otherwise and that its mostly escorting in the city to make even a fraction of what I do where I am now.
The money is 8/10 or 9/10 times relatively consistent. I have a very very clean hustle and don't lead men on or keep regulars really. I just don't have the energy for it anymore.
Anyhow... I have read mixed reviews of Boston & Providence. I am going to Providence end of the month to try dancing there and to see if it's as good as here or consistent at least. I feel like I can make it happen, I think it's part of being the 1-2% in the industry for doing well most of the time?
I am on my last year or two dancing while I build my businesses but I need to make sure I can cover all my investments etc. ; so I can't be f*cking with areas that are super up and down money wise, so moving is such a gamble for me. However where I am I am very unhappy and want to leave.
Has anyone done this? Have you been able to make the same money while moving to other cities? Or have you just sucked up a pay cut sometimes?
I really want to make this move work, but I don't want to get sucked into a position where Im choosing between my soul and my livelihood.
Any advice on how to go about a move and keep the same money would be helpful. Thanks!
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I think you would do well in Boston.
As for me my income went up when I worked in the Midwest/Rockies. It was more "my style."
Re- Rhode Island- I had a couple good friends from RI at my day job recently and they said they moved to the Midwest due to the terrible job market in RI. & They had trade skills. So cash-based jobs on RI might not be that awesome if competition is fierce.
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I think you would do well in Boston.
As for me my income went up when I worked in the Midwest/Rockies. It was more "my style."
Re- Rhode Island- I had a couple good friends from RI at my day job recently and they said they moved to the Midwest due to the terrible job market in RI. & They had trade skills. So cash-based jobs on RI might not be that awesome if competition is fierce.
ok I will be trying Providence and Boston end of the month to see how I do, I’m getting a place for the next 10 months in Providence so I’ll be able to visit monthly or bimonthly to see how it goes from multiple trips. I make SO much in the Rockies I just fucking hate the people. I’m not some relaxed, chill LA chick that wants to smoke weed, I’m more New York with my mindset so it makes me do well here but I’m to my breaking point. The thing is most of my money is from traveling New Yorkers so I am hoping I’ll find that in the other cities in the northeast. We’ll see hopefully it’s at least comparable so I can be over there more for when I’m done, I just don’t want to back myself into a position where I can’t finish my companies due to money volatility. I am trying so hard to just be grateful for things here but I am so sick of being alone and having no friends and then dealing with caddy jealous bitches I’m just needing change badly... hopefully Boston goes well.
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ok I will be trying Providence and Boston end of the month to see how I do, I’m getting a place for the next 10 months in Providence so I’ll be able to visit monthly or bimonthly to see how it goes from multiple trips. I make SO much in the Rockies I just fucking hate the people. I’m not some relaxed, chill LA chick that wants to smoke weed, I’m more New York with my mindset so it makes me do well here but I’m to my breaking point. The thing is most of my money is from traveling New Yorkers so I am hoping I’ll find that in the other cities in the northeast. We’ll see hopefully it’s at least comparable so I can be over there more for when I’m done, I just don’t want to back myself into a position where I can’t finish my companies due to money volatility. I am trying so hard to just be grateful for things here but I am so sick of being alone and having no friends and then dealing with caddy jealous bitches I’m just needing change badly... hopefully Boston goes well.
Yeah I've heard about the Denver Coke Rats.
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I worked in ri for years. I have a very clean hustle as well. I was a battle. Somedays it was easy and some not like anywhere. I used my Asian heritage to advantage. But i will forewarn you there are girls that have pimps or "boyfriend" and extras is more of a form, contact is excepted not the exception. Weekend is young guys and thuggabes. Foxy and Desires has less of the thug factor but the girls can be standoffish and really territorial about customers. Its decent even the Patriots are playing at home. Its awful in the winter until tax season. I used to go to NYC during then. Any other questions, let me know. Good luck
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I resurrected an old thread. I wonder about your experience in RI/Boston and can share my observations of working in Providence. I too am trying to make a move from where I currently am. I met almost zero New Yorkers in my club in Providence, most out of state visitors are from MA.
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I’m wondering about Boston as well I will be traveling there this weekend
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Never worked in Boston but I hear clubs in MA are nude, no contact.
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I haven't worked in Mass in a long time but that's where I started dancing. Ma, CT, and RI...
PROVIDENCE $$
I would suggest providence if you're going to be dancing in New England. Foxy and desire are good. I made consistent money when I worked at Foxy Lady..mgmt is cool..cool regulars..set up is perfect for hustling the floor and being on stage. Just a good club. Girls from New England (and people in general) are tough cookies at first so be prepared for that.. but you will find a lot of sweethearts once you get to know them..staff too. It's not that come and go vibe like a lot of other areas in the country I have worked in. Those are the only two clubs I would suggest in Providence if you want a consistent and well run club. If I was ever back on that side of the US I would work there. Providence is small...everyone knows everyone.. so pick a club and stick to it. They don't really like when you bounce around and it's not really worth it to. If you're come and go they're going to ask what's up.
Also rent is not too bad in Providence area compared to other spots. It is a great city to live in honestly (in New England).
For cheaper rent options, check fall river if you have a car - rough city, not the best quality of life...but cheap as hell.
BOSTON
Centerfolds Boston is a nice club FOR NEW ENGLAND but you pay a ton to work and it's full nude. It's champagne money..small club so it can get busy..3 narrow floors if I remember correctly. Strictly air dances and they mean it. Small dance area and they will interrupt if you're not in front with two feet on the floor. Champagne room was bright bright. They expect you tip everryyyyyyyonneeeeeeeeeee for even trying to make you money so you will have hosts constantly trying for you but at the end of shift money expect to PAY. And I mean PAY like thinking to yourself "wait, so all I made was ___ ?!?!"
Golden Banana is ok. Not worth it to get a hotel and work. Save that place for when you've actually moved to town. It could work when that time comes.
WORCESTER
Riviera show club (formerly emperors) in worcester is a HUGE beautiful club in the wrong place. That's all I have to say... they should ship the building to vegas IMO. It's a rough city, tough girls, okay customers, but just roughhhhhhhhhhhh
CT
Don't bother with CT. Mynx..eh.
also... there is a site stripclublist (not tobeconfusedwithTUSCL) that regulars/locals/club employees seem to be obsessed with and they talk between club forums about each club daily. So you will find a lot there but also some really nasty remarks about dancers and eachother which I think is bizarre AF. That's how small new england really is.
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NYC.Bianca
Have any girls done this??
I am currently dancing in more middle america, I do very well where I am.. I tried to move to NYC and figured I'd make the same money dancing in Manhattan, but I quickly found out otherwise and that its mostly escorting in the city to make even a fraction of what I do where I am now.
The money is 8/10 or 9/10 times relatively consistent. I have a very very clean hustle and don't lead men on or keep regulars really. I just don't have the energy for it anymore.
Anyhow... I have read mixed reviews of Boston & Providence. I am going to Providence end of the month to try dancing there and to see if it's as good as here or consistent at least. I feel like I can make it happen, I think it's part of being the 1-2% in the industry for doing well most of the time?
I am on my last year or two dancing while I build my businesses but I need to make sure I can cover all my investments etc. ; so I can't be f*cking with areas that are super up and down money wise, so moving is such a gamble for me. However where I am I am very unhappy and want to leave.
Has anyone done this? Have you been able to make the same money while moving to other cities? Or have you just sucked up a pay cut sometimes?
I really want to make this move work, but I don't want to get sucked into a position where Im choosing between my soul and my livelihood.
Any advice on how to go about a move and keep the same money would be helpful. Thanks!
NYC.bianca I have moved around a few times and find that as soon as I get into a good club after some good research I am making around the same as I would anywhere else. Sometimes more at first because IMO new girl money is a real thing and not just a myth. I think being consistent and having a good plan works when you relocate. I have moved with no plan and found myself leaving broke and in situations because I didn't plan well so I am stressed out. The stress killed my ability to get use to the club and hustle. I too am a super clean dancer so I understand where you're coming from. Research TF out of these clubs(SW, the clubs social media tagged photos, strip club review sites, etc.) the seasons, and trip estimates for ubers. Have your night mapped out before you start. If you don't know the area and don't know the club enough it will set you up for surprises.
If you're planning on staying in providence or Mass, feel free to private message me and I will help all I can. Airbnbs, hotels, transportation costs, etc - I can definitely help you with that info. It's may seem like one hotel is close to a club but when you're there it's alllll the way across town and in the woods. Also, see my previous post on working in New England. Some info but feel free to ask for more.
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Just wanted to mention that the original poster created the post in October 2018, a year ago. I somehow stumbled upon her thread this past summer when I was having a rough time trying to make money in NYC and was looking to where to go next. I agree with what m1nx said. I only worked in Providence and although I wouldn't call the money fantastic (for me, don't know about other girls') there were lots of positives. The city is small and manageable, I thought the people for the most part were nice, management in my club is super cool and the nearby town of Newport is gorgeous in the summer. The management won't like it if you work in more than one club in RI and everyone knows everyone. There was little stress at work which is a huge positive for me. I never did nude dances and that didn't affect my money. I don't kmow how winter is over there, but the season (summer, fall) were ok, not great but you can pay your bills. Oh, and the guys that come to Providence from Mass, are usually pretty tame and don't expect much because they are used to no contact. And, you ll be seeing the same customers every night, about 5-10% I d say. They just sit there and don't spend so you ll quickly learn to not waste time.
M1nx, I wonder why you moved away from the area and if you don't mind, what state did you choose to go to? I am asking because I am trying to find one good city to work at and to live in and stick with it. I am afraid to make the wrong choice and regret it later as it will be very difficult for me to move again in my circumstances. I have been "lost" wandering around a few places for a couple of years since I had moved away from a place where work was good but I hated living there. Looking for the work/life balance.
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Just wanted to mention that the original poster created the post in October 2018, a year ago. I somehow stumbled upon her thread this past summer when I was having a rough time trying to make money in NYC and was looking to where to go next. I agree with what m1nx said. I only worked in Providence and although I wouldn't call the money fantastic (for me, don't know about other girls') there were lots of positives. The city is small and manageable, I thought the people for the most part were nice, management in my club is super cool and the nearby town of Newport is gorgeous in the summer. The management won't like it if you work in more than one club in RI and everyone knows everyone. There was little stress at work which is a huge positive for me. I never did nude dances and that didn't affect my money. I don't kmow how winter is over there, but the season (summer, fall) were ok, not great but you can pay your bills. Oh, and the guys that come to Providence from Mass, are usually pretty tame and don't expect much because they are used to no contact. And, you ll be seeing the same customers every night, about 5-10% I d say. They just sit there and don't spend so you ll quickly learn to not waste time.
M1nx, I wonder why you moved away from the area and if you don't mind, what state did you choose to go to? I am asking because I am trying to find one good city to work at and to live in and stick with it. I am afraid to make the wrong choice and regret it later as it will be very difficult for me to move again in my circumstances. I have been "lost" wandering around a few places for a couple of years since I had moved away from a place where work was good but I hated living there. Looking for the work/life balance.
I agree with everything you said there. It works. The money is not fantastic and the hustle is a little more tame but the environment is easy.
I moved away about 6 years ago but recently went back to dance for a few winter months in Prov. I needed a little homey hometown feel to get my mind right but New England will never be a place I would call home again after living in other places. The quality of life and opportunities and networking just aren't it for me. I moved to Vegas. I know what you mean being hesistant to move to another city... it can be bad or great. And for a minute there I was really unsure where the hell I should go next. That is so frustrating and scary when you've lived in so many places already... it's almost like you have run out of options.
I don't know where you have lived but I can offer some info...
I would suggest Tampa
If you're looking for a step up in the club environment and a bigger change in quality of life. The city is awesome. It's growing, there is so much to do, quality of life is A++ and there is money to be made. Culinary scene is awesome, sporting events awesome, beaches, water views, sandbar parties, healthy clean fitness scene is huge there, a lot of money there, great apartments, and the people are great so it's easy to make friends. Also, you aren't that far from a lot of great cities to travel dance in. I think there are close to 40 clubs in Tampa Bay area and if you look aTTUSCL there are huuundredsssss of clubs in Florida.
If Tampa isn't it for you, St. Pete next door (just across a bridge) and Clearwater (also just across a bridge or causeway) are both great cities with a lot of clubs as well!
I would suggest Vegas onlyy if..(imo)
you are okay financially and want to spend a year or two trying to save up and work towards some goal. This city is heavy. Yes, normal people live and thrive here but if you don't have have a great savings account and aren't using dancing as supplemental income or for savings it can get hard and old to you. That's my opinion. I wish I came with a large amount saved up so I could have focused on work life balance and not just hustle at first. I will say the big clubs are awesome and if you can hold your own it's easy peasy in there. Lots of opportunity here not just for work. A lot of great networking... Just have to be smart.
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Thank you so much for such a detailed response, m1nx. I worked in Vegas for a little bit but a very long time ago. I don't think I could live in a desert, I felt so depressed in Vegas. I have always thought of Tampa due to it's location close to the beaches but heat and hurricanes scare me. I lived in a state prone to natural disasters before. I love cooler weather and even cold weather, also a place that is not too transient, where you can make friends and feel the sense of normalcy. I like to be surrounded by cultured educated people. North east is my preferred place, that's where it feels like home to me. Also, I have heard from many that Florida customers are somewhat entitled to getting away with more contact and extras than men in some other regions. But I totally get what you are saying in how you described your short return to dancing in New England after having worked at more profitable locations. Once you step up to the next level, you never want to have to step down again. I am going to look into Tampa, thank you for putting the place on my radar:)
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I grew up , live and work in Massachusetts. I live near Boston but work in western mass. I’ve been to providence as a patron only to Foxy Lady’s. It was packed and money was flowing. The poster who recommended Foxy’s and Desires steered you on the right track. Those are the only two clubs I’ve ever considered trying myself. In Boston proper there are there 2 clubs , Centerfolds (fancy , High end, hella fees, frown on tattoos) and the dirty dive next door (The Glass Slipper). There’s money there even as a clean dancer but it’s a mess lol. Right outside of Boston, in Revere , there is the Squire. I was there the other day as a patron (damn,I go to stripclubs a lot lol) and it was pretty dead. But I’ve gone there exactly twice in my life so I dunno. In Worcester there’s another club called Centerfolds which is a dive bar but there’s money there. Lots of money. There’s also Riviera’s which is huge and gorgeous, not sure about the money thou. When I’ve gone as a patron it seems more regular nightclub like than stripclub . Hurricane Betty’s is also in Worcester, super duper small but when I worked there I made consistent, great money. This was 5/6 years ago thou. If you want more info dm me.
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When people say the midwest is good... where exactly is that lmao. Because I've danced in kansas and Missouri and it was shit.
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I've found the midwest fucking bipolar tbh. Idk what everyone considers good- but to me it can be good moneywise... sometimes even amazing. But it can also be really god-awful. Like there is no in between. I find the more time I spend dancing in the midwest the less I like the culture of customers in that region and I've tried Indiana, Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Minnesota... So I'm aware that is not every state in the midwest, but I think that's enough for me to form an opinion on the whole region's strip club scene imo. A lot of my issue in the midwest isn't due to lack of money- I just fucking hate the customers/people/cattier than normal girls/weird staff holy shit. The normalest people I dealt with in the midwest had to be in Indiana, but I think there is less money there compared to other places in the midwest at least ime. I swear it has to be some weird culture out in the midwest unless I am crazy which is maybe the case idk lol. I believe there is plenty of money to be made in the midwest- but again this depends what kinda money someone is happy with *shrug*. Also good luck dealing with these weirdos and fuckheads that come out to the clubs in the midwest like nty.
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I've found the midwest fucking bipolar tbh. Idk what everyone considers good- but to me it can be good moneywise... sometimes even amazing. But it can also be really god-awful. Like there is no in between. I find the more time I spend dancing in the midwest the less I like the culture of customers in that region and I've tried Indiana, Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Minnesota... So I'm aware that is not every state in the midwest, but I think that's enough for me to form an opinion on the whole region's strip club scene imo. A lot of my issue in the midwest isn't due to lack of money- I just fucking hate the customers/people/cattier than normal girls/weird staff holy shit. The normalest people I dealt with in the midwest had to be in Indiana, but I think there is less money there compared to other places in the midwest at least ime. I swear it has to be some weird culture out in the midwest unless I am crazy which is maybe the case idk lol. I believe there is plenty of money to be made in the midwest- but again this depends what kinda money someone is happy with *shrug*. Also good luck dealing with these weirdos and fuckheads that come out to the clubs in the midwest like nty.
Open bigotry is super common in Midwestern clubs. Also "crazy girls" are tolerated in a lot of small clubs in the Midwest because they're local and will show up for work if traveling/visiting girls cancel or are delayed. I completely hate that but that's how management sees it, they have to have dancers on stage to keep people coming back.
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Yeah, don't get me wrong there's shitheads in all regions and all clubs, but often it is a different culture of bullshit in places outside the midwest...
So yeah, anyone saying there is no money in the midwest... hmm I would beg to differ. But maybe some areas/clubs are worse than others moneywise for sure.
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It's true everything you said about the midwest according to my state, which is Ohio. Definitely cattier-than-normal girls. Like off the charts imo, I've never got used to it. These women are gorgeous yet insecure and unhappy as hell. Working around them is NO FUN. I've never once made an actual friend after ten years of dancing in Ohio, and I hear other girls say the exact same thing. Also the staff, bouncers, managers, bartenders seem to hate dancers and women in general. I used to think this was normal until I hear people who've never been to Ohio before comment on how bad it is. One part of why everyone is so pissy is b/c it's the Bible belt, a red state, and there are always raids here. There used to be a vice squad just to handle "sex investigations" but it's been dismantled. Ohio is where Stormy Daniels was hauled off. In a paddywagon. For rubbing her boobs on an undercover badge. This was a year or two ago. But, all of that said, the money can be good, depending on where you work. Because the thing about all of the clubs here, is that they've all been the same name, and mostly the same ownership, for decades. That means their business is reliable and loyal, as far as clubs go. You have to wear pasties at all the topless places.
Centerfolds is right smack next door to the Port Columbus International Airport, which is quite a busy hub constantly full of businessmen, who come over and spend, whether they're middle class management or wealthy, they do spend, and you earn a lot from drinks at 'folds too. It is topless only. It is run by 2 hard women who are former dancers. You have to make a schedule. Certain days you have to work if you want to work a weekend, etc . Nylon Wednesdays is enforced. You gotta wear some type of pantyhose or thigh highs on Weds. No one knows why but there are champagne rooms. And vips. You are micromanaged. House fees are low during days, and DJ/bartender/floorguy fees. It does have a roadside tavern feel tho. Bc it literally is a roadside tavern on a dirt parking lot off of a country road.
Further north, you've got Siren's. Topless only. That's where Stormy was abducted. I went in there this summer to check it out. There was 6 huge bouncers all standing at the door. They were very aggressive. I had to ask myself what kind of shit goes down in a place where you need 6 bouncers, and metal detectors. I didn't go back but having been there before, I know it is a nice building with a showbar feel inside which is good. But the clientele is young, and violent. It has been a steady club around for a while, so plenty of people come through, and I hear house fees are nothing too crazy. Champagne rooms are sold there as well as an upstairs which has couches in the rooms and TV's where they show porno on them.
Northwest you got Columbus Gold, and Vanity, both right next door to one another. Weird, huh? But both stay busy, and they don't seem to be in competition with each other from what I can tell. Prob. b/c it's a good side of town with a lot of money in it. Both are topless only. I'm at Vanity right now. Management at night is awesome, day manager is...alright. (Never know who's reading these things) House mom. DJ/floor guy/bartender fees. However, the house fees are low and you can come and go freely. It's supposed to be low contact and signs say no grinding, but I don't even know why they wasted the ink, the clients get drunk and no one checks on you in the room so you have to take care of yourself. There's a bunch of different rooms you can sell, VIPS, champagne, skybox, and lots of opportunities to make money. You do have to sign in when you get there and check out, and be walked out by a bouncer or mgr, when you leave, or you will be fired.
Cols. Gold has lower fees on day shift, but you pay so many different house fees its hard to keep up with them all. The clientele is good about half the time, and there's money there if you hustle. It's a depressing place where the girls all seem unappreciated and depressed and overcharged. I worked there for one night this summer and didn't go back. I went on a Sunday night which is "Ten Dollar Night". which means a lapdance was $10, and the clientele was all over you. for ten bucks. A very high contact place. There are no mirrors in the place at all on the stages or walls. So you can't see yourself dance. That is a mistake. I saw some of the shittiest dancing I've ever seen in my life. All b/c the girls can't see what they're doing. No toes were pointed, girls crouching wide open, some up there crabwalking, dancing sideways. Somebody would think they were vertical on the pole, when they were actually diagonal it's hard to explain. There posture was bad and nobody was sucking in your stomach b/c you couldn't tell it was hanging out. I never worked in a place with no mirrors before. And I never went back there.
Hopefully that gives some idea about Columbus, Ohio clubs.
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Yeah, don't get me wrong there's shitheads in all regions and all clubs, but often it is a different culture of bullshit in places outside the midwest...
So yeah, anyone saying there is no money in the midwest... hmm I would beg to differ. But maybe some areas/clubs are worse than others moneywise for sure.
I'll just come out and say it- the Midwest can be a gold mine for white girls, and for "exotic" girls who can tolerate ignorant behavior. Without going into political talk, the problem with a LOT of Midwestern areas is nothing ever changes and anyone with any power in the area wants to keep it that way. It's depressing. & The depression/frustration of people there can affect you too.
(The modern American South is a different story. I'm familiar with Nashville TN and it's very different than some of the metro areas in the South or South West.)
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I'll just come out and say it- the Midwest can be a gold mine for white girls, and for "exotic" girls who can tolerate ignorant behavior. Without going into political talk, the problem with a LOT of Midwestern areas is nothing ever changes and anyone with any power in the area wants to keep it that way. It's depressing. & The depression/frustration of people there can affect you too.
(The modern American South is a different story. I'm familiar with Nashville TN and it's very different than some of the metro areas in the South or South West.)
What do you mean by "modern American South"? I believe Nashville is strictly air dances?
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I'll just come out and say it- the Midwest can be a gold mine for white girls, and for "exotic" girls who can tolerate ignorant behavior. Without going into political talk, the problem with a LOT of Midwestern areas is nothing ever changes and anyone with any power in the area wants to keep it that way. It's depressing. & The depression/frustration of people there can affect you too.
(The modern American South is a different story. I'm familiar with Nashville TN and it's very different than some of the metro areas in the South or South West.)
Where in midwest? I am white and very attractive, according to what my customers say. I always thought NYC and Vegas were gold mines. I didn't like working in Vegas although money was good but last time I worked there was ages ago, I made no money in NYC, this is very recent. Been travel dancing trying to find the place to move to for the long term, my travel expenses eat up most of my profit, just want to find one amazing clean club and work consistently to pay off enormous debts I have accumulated due to having worked low paid vanilla work for a decade prior to returning back to dancing.
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Quote by M1NX ; I agree with everything you said there. It works. The money is not fantastic and the hustle is a little more tame but the environment is easy.
" I know what you mean being hesistant to move to another city... it can be bad or great. And for a minute there I was really unsure where the hell I should go next. That is so frustrating and scary when you've lived in so many places already... it's almost like you have run out of options. "
- Ugh, YES. That's how its felt. This past year I've been trying to make things happen in Portland,
but honestly I think it's just a better place to come in, travel dance,
and leave. I love Oregon but there isn't MONEY here.
I am just going to go back to Denver to recoup I guess.... going to try & build up "other work"
while touring in NYC & hope that can float me back to the east coast,
in a year or so. I hate to make the jump to RI or Boston because I can't keep sinking into the red.
I do think I would do well in Boston, but I just can't take on more unknown right now.
Portland I have noticed just has a trashier vibe hustle going on.... so the guys tend to just like trashier girls
& expect more for less. I need locations where guys LOVE HOT GIRLS, preferable the bitchy type of women.
Because that's what I am.
So I feel like Dallas/Texas would also maybe work I guess if Denver has gone to shit...
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I'll just come out and say it- the Midwest can be a gold mine for white girls, and for "exotic" girls who can tolerate ignorant behavior. Without going into political talk, the problem with a LOT of Midwestern areas is nothing ever changes and anyone with any power in the area wants to keep it that way. It's depressing. & The depression/frustration of people there can affect you too.
(The modern American South is a different story. I'm familiar with Nashville TN and it's very different than some of the metro areas in the South or South West.)
This is SO true.
I don't know if you dance anymore, but how is Nashville ? I've thought about checking it out because it's a growth city.
I have found "up and coming growth" boom cities are the best for my dance demographic.
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Where in midwest? I am white and very attractive, according to what my customers say. I always thought NYC and Vegas were gold mines. I didn't like working in Vegas although money was good but last time I worked there was ages ago, I made no money in NYC, this is very recent. Been travel dancing trying to find the place to move to for the long term, my travel expenses eat up most of my profit, just want to find one amazing clean club and work consistently to pay off enormous debts I have accumulated due to having worked low paid vanilla work for a decade prior to returning back to dancing.
NYC and Vegas are "gold mines" if you do a lot more than just dancing.
Not if you're a clean dancer.
And any dancer that argues against that, is either the extreme minority & still isn't making good
money CONSISTENTLY, or she is lying or in denial.
I'm currently in the same boat as you where I'm traveling but have a ton of expenses.
Cities I'm considering right now;
- denver again
- minneapolis , mn
- columbus, ohio (since that girls post)
- forth worth or dallas, tx
- austin, tx (has been good in the past)
- boca raton/west palm, fl areas.