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Dallas and Austin were good for selling floor dances, I almost never did rooms there because just like in many other places, customers were expecting more than I was willing to do but my information is from many years ago. I recently returned into dancing after a very long break and just not recognizing Nyc, wtf happened, the clientele is either cheap or expects too much.
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Minneapolis can be great money, but I wouldn't call it consistent. The girls are extremely fucking catty and straight up evil even if you travel in and mind your business. And I've dealt with a lot of catty/awful dancers, but I would say Minneapolis is worse than average for that. I got the impression there is sexual shit going on in the rooms because some of the consistent top earners were also by far the least attractive. They are not really enforcing no 2 way touching out on the floor although they are supposed to. I am done with that town for a while, too many headaches.
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I think it's also the matter of finding the right club and the right environment that works for you. Because you have to live in whatevers city you pick, and it's draining when work is good but living in that area sucks, and the same for loving the city but hating your job. It's hard to find the right combo but we have to keep trying!
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Yeah I kinda hate Minneapolis as a city. No offense. Portland is way nicer imo! Sucks that it is apparently mediocre to dance in though.
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Yeah I kinda hate Minneapolis as a city. No offense. Portland is way nicer imo! Sucks that it is apparently mediocre to dance in though.
Yeah I really love Oregon but dancing just isn't fiting with me here, I haven't tried everywhere tho.. but from what I've noticed its just super inconsistent.
I don't have the energy or motivation going into work every single day not knowing if I'm going to make $20 or 1k or $200; - or $20 should NEVER happen.
It just kills my drive & motivation super quick, at least in Denver my lower nights were much higher than that so it's not AS bad.
I am still curious about Minneapolis, I will maybe try it one day..but yeah it is hard to find the dance/city balance.
Thats why I left Denver, I just hate being there, but I guess I'd rather live where I don't like so long as I'm not stressing out
so much financially :/
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Yeah I really love Oregon but dancing just isn't fiting with me here, I haven't tried everywhere tho.. but from what I've noticed its just super inconsistent.
I don't have the energy or motivation going into work every single day not knowing if I'm going to make $20 or 1k or $200; - or $20 should NEVER happen.
It just kills my drive & motivation super quick, at least in Denver my lower nights were much higher than that so it's not AS bad.
I am still curious about Minneapolis, I will maybe try it one day..but yeah it is hard to find the dance/city balance.
Thats why I left Denver, I just hate being there, but I guess I'd rather live where I don't like so long as I'm not stressing out
so much financially :/
I get it, anywhere I seem to like more and I wanna live is just kinda shitty to dance in for a variety of reasons. Minneapolis is kinda inconsistent for me, but idk maybe it will be different for you. I fucking hate that city though so no real loss for me... I only tried one club. I just know 1 shift I made over $2k just to come in the next time and make $60. WTF. Talk about up and down!! Last time I came out it was bullshit for me though... maybe it picked up again, but I am so mad about my last trip for so many reasons, fuck that place.
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just super inconsistent.
I don't have the energy or motivation going into work every single day not knowing if I'm going to make $20 or 1k or $200; - or $20 should NEVER happen.
It just kills my drive & motivation super quick
Does anyplace guarantee a minimum amount anymore? Centerfolds in Columbus used to guarantee a $100/night minimum earnings, meaning you were guaranteed $100 per night, and they would see to it that you left with at least that. I think I’ve seen them do that during times when they felt they were low on girls, or quality/consistency of girls.
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Does anyplace guarantee a minimum amount anymore? Centerfolds in Columbus used to guarantee a $100/night minimum earnings, meaning you were guaranteed $100 per night, and they would see to it that you left with at least that. I think I’ve seen them do that during times when they felt they were low on girls, or quality/consistency of girls.
Yah definitely nothing is guaranteed anymore, and I've definitely had super low nights in Denver too.. but I just have more "good night data" so I trust it more than Portland, I feel kind of lost trying to dance somewhere new & have it actually be GOOD...
Finding home bases for dancing is a tricky thing.
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My advice- go where your look is in demand.
& "New Girl Money" is very helpful these days.
Traveling isn't always easy but it can pay off because your customers KNOW you only have X amount of days at any given club.
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I grew up , live and work in Massachusetts. I live near Boston but work in western mass. I’ve been to providence as a patron only to Foxy Lady’s. It was packed and money was flowing. The poster who recommended Foxy’s and Desires steered you on the right track. Those are the only two clubs I’ve ever considered trying myself. In Boston proper there are there 2 clubs , Centerfolds (fancy , High end, hella fees, frown on tattoos) and the dirty dive next door (The Glass Slipper). There’s money there even as a clean dancer but it’s a mess lol. Right outside of Boston, in Revere , there is the Squire. I was there the other day as a patron (damn,I go to stripclubs a lot lol) and it was pretty dead. But I’ve gone there exactly twice in my life so I dunno. In Worcester there’s another club called Centerfolds which is a dive bar but there’s money there. Lots of money. There’s also Riviera’s which is huge and gorgeous, not sure about the money thou. When I’ve gone as a patron it seems more regular nightclub like than stripclub . Hurricane Betty’s is also in Worcester, super duper small but when I worked there I made consistent, great money. This was 5/6 years ago thou. If you want more info dm me.
I bet we've crossed paths before in a club or two. I grew up in w/ma. I was living there still when dejavu exploded and destroyed downtown... remember thattttt??? Was MG shut down because of the recent raid? I know it was money thing not work related but not sure if it stayed open after...wanted to say, if so, Riviera (used to be emperors) was a pretty good club for that area when I worked there. Big stage money back then not sure now. If you're used to dancing in spfld then piece of cake there if not better. Worcesters roughhh but that club is beautiful. If you're trying to stay in that area it's closer to you and i'm sure regs won't have an issue making the 40min-ish drive... :)
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I bet we've crossed paths before in a club or two. I grew up in w/ma. I was living there still when dejavu exploded and destroyed downtown... remember thattttt??? Was MG shut down because of the recent raid? I know it was money thing not work related but not sure if it stayed open after...wanted to say, if so, Riviera (used to be emperors) was a pretty good club for that area when I worked there. Big stage money back then not sure now. If you're used to dancing in spfld then piece of cake there if not better. Worcesters roughhh but that club is beautiful. If you're trying to stay in that area it's closer to you and i'm sure regs won't have an issue making the 40min-ish drive... :)
We prob have run into each other lol. I wasn't working in Springfield when it happened (I was at a now shuttered Mardi Gras property in North Oxford) but that explosion was wild. It’s crazy to think no one got killed. Mardi Gras didn’t get shut down . You know they have hella pull with the city officials. I work outside if Springfield although I’ve done shifts at Center Stage (not my style) , Fifth Alarm (not my scene in the least) but the girls were cool, Mardi Gras (liked it a lot but the politics and nitpicking at that club plus coked out managers was too much). I like a laid back atmosphere.
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I am having this same dilemma right now. I live in Chicago and love it as a city but absolutely hate dancing in Chicago. I've found myself traveling a lot more lately, especially into the fall and winter slowdown up north. I've found clubs down south where I've done miles better and, even with traveling expenses accounted for, I'm leaving more money in my account than I've ever been at home. The clubs I've been working at down south (not the hell hole of Florida) are less contact and I find myself being propositioned for sex and outside the club stuff far less, if at all, which is very refreshing to me. I know I'm not happy with Chicago money or the mileage expected, but I don't think I'd be necessarily happy living down south since I'm a city girl at heart. Under what circumstances would one seriously consider moving for work? Is it better to just adapt to your existing situation, bite the bullet, and make the best of it?
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If you are doing way better elsewhere but love living where you are now, I would personally travel dance. You might be seeing the new girl money and come to work refreshed after having spent time at home, where I assume you enjoy living. There are factors in the new place that you need to take into consideration if you do move there: the climate, is the money there seasonal and if yes, have you worked both busy and slow times, your health, are you exposed to smoke/air pollutants/allergents in your new environment, dating situation, cost of living, taxes, drivers' habits on roads (eg.lots of drunk driving in non-urban places) etc etc
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This is SO true.
I don't know if you dance anymore, but how is Nashville ? I've thought about checking it out because it's a growth city.
I have found "up and coming growth" boom cities are the best for my dance demographic.
Nashville is being so hush-hush! It must be good there? lol j/k
Reliable sources confirm Nashville area is wealthy!
However, it all depends on the clubs, and their patrons.
Definitely don't want a bunch of broke hipsters who think their musical talent serves as currency lol
Or entertainment lawyers, since lawyers are some of the worst cheapskates
Have I left anybody out of my generalizing?
who else is broke? lol
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I am having this same dilemma right now. I live in Chicago and love it as a city but absolutely hate dancing in Chicago. I've found myself traveling a lot more lately, especially into the fall and winter slowdown up north. I've found clubs down south where I've done miles better and, even with traveling expenses accounted for, I'm leaving more money in my account than I've ever been at home. The clubs I've been working at down south (not the hell hole of Florida) are less contact and I find myself being propositioned for sex and outside the club stuff far less, if at all, which is very refreshing to me. I know I'm not happy with Chicago money or the mileage expected, but I don't think I'd be necessarily happy living down south since I'm a city girl at heart. Under what circumstances would one seriously consider moving for work? Is it better to just adapt to your existing situation, bite the bullet, and make the best of it?
For the record, I moved to the area that I absolutely loathe although work is not bad there. I travel dance and not bringing home much after travel expenses just to not be in the fucking area I hate so much from the cultural perspective. Looking to find the right work/life balance. If you think of moving somewhere where work is good but you don't enjoy living there, make many trips to the new place before you uproot yourself.
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nashville is being so hush-hush! It must be good there? Lol j/k
reliable sources confirm nashville area is wealthy!
However, it all depends on the clubs, and their patrons.
Definitely don't want a bunch of broke hipsters who think their musical talent serves as currency lol
or entertainment lawyers, since lawyers are some of the worst cheapskates
have i left anybody out of my generalizing?
Who else is broke? Lol
hahaha yeuhhss.:rotfl::laughing::faint:
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This past year I've been trying to make things happen in Portland,
but honestly I think it's just a better place to come in, travel dance,
and leave. I love Oregon but there isn't MONEY here.
Portland I have noticed just has a trashier vibe hustle going on.... so the guys tend to just like trashier girls
& expect more for less. I need locations where guys LOVE HOT GIRLS, preferable the bitchy type of women.
Because that's what I am.
So I feel like Dallas/Texas would also maybe work I guess if Denver has gone to shit...
Man, yeah, Portland has been such a grind lately. I feel like I'm really having to put in time pulling 10-8 hour shifts 3-5 days a week to make my goals. My income has increased since last year, but not by enough to feel satisfactory. And it's mostly because I've increased my work days/hours. Idk if I'm out growing this area, or if my age is starting to freak me out (I'll be turning 30 in 2020) but I need to be making some serious dancer money if I want to really pursue some of my bigger goals in the upcoming years.
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Don't be silly, 30 is a fine age to be a stripper. I will be 30 in 2020 as well.
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Don't be silly, 30 is a fine age to be a stripper. I will be 30 in 2020 as well.
Whoa, I thought you were late 30s because you're such an OG!
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Whoa, I thought you were late 30s because you're such an OG!
THanks, nah, I started at 19 and I surround myself with girls my age and older 30's , 40's.
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I've found the midwest fucking bipolar tbh. Idk what everyone considers good- but to me it can be good moneywise... sometimes even amazing. But it can also be really god-awful. Like there is no in between. I find the more time I spend dancing in the midwest the less I like the culture of customers in that region and I've tried Indiana, Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Minnesota... So I'm aware that is not every state in the midwest, but I think that's enough for me to form an opinion on the whole region's strip club scene imo. A lot of my issue in the midwest isn't due to lack of money- I just fucking hate the customers/people/cattier than normal girls/weird staff holy shit. The normalest people I dealt with in the midwest had to be in Indiana, but I think there is less money there compared to other places in the midwest at least ime. I swear it has to be some weird culture out in the midwest unless I am crazy which is maybe the case idk lol. I believe there is plenty of money to be made in the midwest- but again this depends what kinda money someone is happy with *shrug*. Also good luck dealing with these weirdos and fuckheads that come out to the clubs in the midwest like nty.
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Open bigotry is super common in Midwestern clubs. Also "crazy girls" are tolerated in a lot of small clubs in the Midwest because they're local and will show up for work if traveling/visiting girls cancel or are delayed. I completely hate that but that's how management sees it, they have to have dancers on stage to keep people coming back.
Yes!!! I don't dance anymore, but a lot of clubs in Wisconsin are like this. A lot of the small Midwest clubs were not my scene at all because they were small clubs that only had between 3-10 dancers a night and you go on stage a lot. I hate going on stage and would rather make my money hustling lap dances and VIP rooms. There wasn't much earning potential due to that and the fact that many clubs' clientele was mostly the same old local guys and barflies night after night who didn't spend much money. MAYBE they would buy you a drink or tip you a dollar or two on stage if you're lucky. LOL
A lot of Midwest clubs aren't set up right to make good money either and had ridiculous rules I hated. You had to be on a strict schedule and couldn't choose what days/hours you worked (8 to 11 hour shifts in some clubs-if I wanted to work that long of a shift, I would've gotten a vanilla job). Basically, they treat you like employees by telling you when you have to be at the club and when you can leave, but don't pay an hourly wage. Many clubs have no cover charge at all or $5 cover charge at the very most, which attracts a lot of cheapskates. I've seen guys not come in because they thought $5 cover charge was too expensive-I shit you not. LMAO I'm glad they didn't come in because they most likely would've just stared at the stage for hours and not tipped a single dollar or bought any dances.
Some clubs took half your lap dance money, and some wouldn't pay you your lap dance money and drink commissions until the end of the week or the end of your booking. So if you didn't like a club and quit early, some clubs would refuse to pay you your drink and dance money.
And yeah, don't get me started on the girls! LOL Wisconsin has some of the laziest strippers, I swear to God. There are lazy dancers everywhere, but just seemed to be a lot more of them in Wisconsin. So many would do their stage sets and then just sit in the dressing room and bitch and complain until it was time for them to go on stage again. Not even attempting to approach customers and ask for dances at all, and then they would wonder why they didn't make any money. I guess they thought God was magically supposed to make it rain on them. So when a girl comes in and actually hustles for dances and make money, they're jealous of her and talk shit.
And yes, a lot of clubs tolerate crazy bitches and girls who constantly show up late or are unprofessional simply because they're desperate for dancers. They're out in the middle of bum fuck Egypt and don't have high earning potential, so dancers who are used to making good money usually only work there once and see it isn't worth it and don't go back.