What’s the best way to get a guy to the champagne room without looking being annoying
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What’s the best way to get a guy to the champagne room without looking being annoying
Well a general rule of thumb is if the guy is visibly annoyed, you're doing it wrong.
Every guy is different, so every approach is different just like any hustle.
Note: this should be in Hustle Hut
What’s your hustle like? Like how do you talk to guys before you ask for dances, how do you ask for dances, how do you ask for CR? Tell us this and we’ll be able to help you more :)
OP, did you check out Hustle Hut tho?
Best place to start, I'm sure this's covered.
Good luck. :)
I don't bother selling the champagne room. Most guys here knows what goes in there and they expect it.
Plus if the customer really wants to spend money, he has to pay the club $100 for the 30-minute room "rental." I rather want the $100 go to me than to the club. And plus, the high tip-outs. I would just try to persuade him to go do multiple lap dances.
Depending on your club's culture and VIP pricing structure, champagne rooms might not even be worth it.
If your club is dirty, regardless of how open they are about it, I wouldn't be inclined to put myself alone in a room with an 'expectant' customer and shady security who is getting paid more to look the other way than to protect me and management that cares more about the money from their customers than anything I could earn them.
You should also sit down and do all the maths to determine your potential income from pushing rooms vs dances. Factor in club fees too, because you shouldn't be letting them take any more of your money than absolutely necessary! Once it's all sorted, what are the best deals for both you, and for the customer? Some customers are either spendy or stupid enough to not really worry about the money they are dropping or where it's going; but others are surprisingly aware and will be more inclined to ask questions about why whichever option you're pushing is 'the best'. Knowing the numbers well and being able to communicate that confidently and simply can go a long way toward closing the sale.
Along with all of this ^^^^ make this section of the forum your Bible and also read up on sales and psychology.
Best way to get him in vip is just to ask. Or wait until he asks. Duh. But also, as said above, sometimes vip isn't worth it. Once I found out a place in nyc was taking most of the money, I vowed to do dances until my legs fell off UNLESS the guy asked first. Also, don't talk to guys who are visibly annoyed at you. Talk to guys who are receptive to you. The positive energy from him will make you positive and vice versa.
Meh, I personally don't care what the club gets as long as I'm getting paid more than I reasonably would doing dances on the main floor. It obviously stings to think about how much the customers pay vs how much you get, and there's a difference between whether I get ~60% of the profit vs 25% (a 25% cut is downright insulting), but to me the club taking up to like 50% isn't the end of the world because there is no way I'm going to operate solo and charge the full $800-1900/hr just to dance, drink, and talk. It's possible of course, but I'm lazy.
Then again, there was one club in my area where you could reasonably do $20 dances for 40 mins out of an hour a few years ago, and they happened to be the only chain with a cut that was 25% to my knowledge. So in that case it was certainly worthwhile to keep yourself available for floor dances. But in the rest of the clubs in my area, floor dances aren't nearly as consistent, so I would rather have certainty I'll walk away with a certain amount for my time, and the primary way to do that is to go to VIP.
This ofc assumes you're reporting your floor dances on your taxes. If you're not reporting cash on your taxes, you may as well avoid the VIP in my area, because you can kiss ~1/3 goodbye.
Anyway, to keep this from being entirely a thread jack, does anyone know if Strip and Grow Rich is around still? I looked at the content several years ago and it seemed useful to newer dancers who would rather not learn everything firsthand.
Depends on the guy. Start with VIP/ CR first (highest price), and sell down from there. When you close a sale for dances easy w/o trying say, "Do you wanna go to VIP or do regular dances?" and then pitch VIP when he asks what it is.