do you ask for your money upfront?
A dancer last night suggested I ask for my money upfront. I am new to dancing and haven't been doing this in the vips and so far all of my customers have been really good and I've gotten my money without ever even asking. It kind of seems bitchy to me to demand the 20$ a song first but she has a point that I don't really want to be grinding naked on a guy to find out he has no money and I usually do 2-3 songs unless a guy really likes me and wants more. A few customers have given me money up front which I do love and give them what I believe it to be worth.Thoughts?
Re: do you ask for your money upfront?
To some degree it depends on the norm at that particular club.
Re: do you ask for your money upfront?
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thehester2
To some degree it depends on the norm at that particular club.
This ^^
Most places I've worked where you stack dances, it's not the norm to collect up front. I basically never have problems, but I'm very clear what a song costs and how many songs we're at. I'll typically say something like "let's keep going" or whatever for songs 1-5, at 5 I'll usually ask if there's a number they'd like me to remind them at. Otherwise I'll just remind them every 5 after that point. I'm pretty honest with my counts unless the guy is a total asshole, in which case I'll add a song or two on a long string.
Re: do you ask for your money upfront?
Yes!
The *only* time I don't is if he is a regular. I don't give a fuck if he's a club regular either, he has to be *my* regular. If he's bitching about paying upfront, I don't want his business. There's always another customer, there's always a new tomorrow.
After the first song or two, I'm already working on getting him in the back anyway, because what guy wants to grab his wallet every three minutes? May as well be in vip.
A decade in the industry, and I've been burnt too many times to not collect upfront.
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90% of the time I do ( you can use various excuses like " I'm new here and they old me to do it that way " ).
There is nothing like the irritation of having to fight for money that is YOURS , I just can't stand the risk factor. It might cost a little overall, but I feel it's worth it to have that control of shifting to an air dance if he gets creepy plus so many other factors .
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Whenever I have *not* collected up front, it has always, always always bitten me hard. I understand that it's not the norm everywhere, but I have learnt the hard way to always get at least the first dance upfront, and then don't stack more than three in a row unless we agree up front (ex. '5 for $100) and he has shown me the money. I have never had a manager take my side in a dispute over money, they have sided with the customer every single time and then bitched at me for not getting paid before doing anything.
Besides avoiding simply getting stiffed, getting the money right away allows you to break off the dance in a hurry with minimal fuss if the customer is getting unruly. In those cases, management was even nastier to me about trying to keep the customer happy. I have even had managers allow a customer to walk right out the door without paying me for dances because I wouldn't let the mofo finger/lick/whatever.
Always, always, always get paid upfront. Most club staff IME literally can't be paid, through our 'mandatory tip outs' to care about us, and there are far too many guys who think nothing of ripping us off with or without a hot side of sexual assault. Don't ever risk your own income just to soothe the feelings of any man in a strip club.
Re: do you ask for your money upfront?
I think it depends on the norms of the club, as someone noted above. If the club has security to enforce payment, then I think you should be ok but it's not recommended. I try to get my dance money upfront, in clubs that do not take the money on your behalf before giving you the split. If you get stiffed, you'll most likely still need to pay the club's cut, which would suck. In ny, staff always advised us never to do more than two dances without getting paid. So maybe it's ok for you to dance before collecting payment but for only so many dances before you request the dance fee before continuing.
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YES and if I’m stacking dances I’ll let them pay me before I start the next one. It doesn’t affect my hustle really. If a guy is giving out one $20 at a time it’s easy to lose count fast. And if he wants more dances from me he will go to the ATM.
I just say “I don’t make the rules, sorry babe!”
I don’t trust guys. Lol