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miss.a.p1600
I don’t know why but I have a hard time believing they make the full $200 per hour cause they have to payout a certain amount in fees and business expenses and are clients really coming in every hour / half hour?
The hourly rate wouldn't be the same as the net.
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Police used fake bomb threat to install cameras in Robert Kraft sex spa case
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/...Nm?ocid=TSHDHP
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slowpoke
There's another article link in that one, where he's wearing a velvet jogging suit, & a huge gold necklace.
Hilarious!
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slowpoke
But isn’t law enforcement allowed to use alternative methods of doing a search because if they inform the spa owners of the search the spa owners will destroy evidence
I read somewhere that they would do a search, have the people think they got burglarized, then tell them after the fact that they had done a search.
I’m assuming this type of search (where you don’t notify of the search at that time but after the fact) is risky cause people might say their rights were infringed upon?
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This case is a mess.
I'm glad he's fighting it though.
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miss.a.p1600
But isn’t law enforcement allowed to use alternative methods of doing a search because if they inform the spa owners of the search the spa owners will destroy evidence
I read somewhere that they would do a search, have the people think they got burglarized, then tell them after the fact that they had done a search.
I’m assuming this type of search (where you don’t notify of the search at that time but after the fact) is risky cause people might say their rights were infringed upon?
Law enforcement doesn't have the inalienable right to catch any crime you do regardless of how minor. All search warrants are measured, in part, against the constitutional protection afforded each of us by 4th amendment against "unreasonable searches and seizures."
So called "sneak and peak" warrants are particularly invasive because they involve ongoing surveillance in private settings. They were originally intended to catch terrorists before they could blow something up, but LE has been abusing them for years, mostly in connection with drug cases. But even still, LE has to have probable cause in order to obtain this type of warrant.
The problem with what happened here is twofold. First, the probable cause provided to justify using "sneak and peak" warrants is looking real shaky. Second, and probably more important, is whether the use of such invasive surveillance involving nude spa customers (some innocent of anything) was "reasonable" in relation to the crimes, which were pedestrian misdemeanors.
I hope Kraft fights this all the way because this goes far beyond catching a guy getting a blowjob. This strikes at the core of our constitutional protections when LE is allowed to conduct private secret surveillance of nickel and dime shit like this. A case like this could go all the way to the Supreme Court and maybe it should.
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rickdugan
Law enforcement doesn't have the inalienable right to catch any crime you do regardless of how minor. All search warrants are measured, in part, against the constitutional protection afforded each of us by 4th amendment against "unreasonable searches and seizures."
So called "sneak and peak" warrants are particularly invasive because they involve ongoing surveillance in private settings. They were originally intended to catch terrorists before they could blow something up, but LE has been abusing them for years, mostly in connection with drug cases. But even still, LE has to have probable cause in order to obtain this type of warrant.
The problem with what happened here is twofold. First, the probable cause provided to justify using "sneak and peak" warrants is looking real shaky. Second, and probably more important, is whether the use of such invasive surveillance involving nude spa customers (some innocent of anything) was "reasonable" in relation to the crimes, which were pedestrian misdemeanors.
I hope Kraft fights this all the way because this goes far beyond catching a guy getting a blowjob. This strikes at the core of our constitutional protections when LE is allowed to conduct private secret surveillance of nickel and dime shit like this. A case like this could go all the way to the Supreme Court and maybe it should.
This^^^ The Department of Homeland Security and the 'Sneak and peek' warrant laws were created after 911 when we as a nation feared another terrorist attack. Many at the time, liberals and conservatives alike, voiced minority opinions that it was a bad law.
Please tell me how Homeland Security is involved in busting massage parlors?! Even if there was trafficking, (Which has yet to be shown that there was any.) How does this play into it? Much much more money is going to international bad actors from the drug trade - even if they thought massages were funding international terrorists.
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One reason - Those closet freaks wanted to get paid to watch the live “surveillance” stream
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More important: bureaucrats trying to expand their jurisdiction.
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I agree. Maybe he gets off with the idea of a cheap sex worker in a seedy run-down filthy place. I'd like to see the prostitute he was with, I bet she is beastly.
He is like Eddie Murphy and Hugh Grant, who picked up ugly cheap street walkers. This must be a fetish some men have. If Eddie wanted a TG, I don't judge him for that, but, he could have found a more attractive and more classy choice. And, if Hugh Grant wanted a black woman, there are MANY gorgeous high-class black escorts to choose from.
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I guess he wanted cheap sexual services. I don't get why any guys still go to jack shacks anymore. They're quite well known these days for hiring unlicensed workers, which is already a big enough risk, let alone being notorious for human trafficking activity of foreign women. The problem with rich men is that they tend to think with their wrong head and also assume that money will buy themselves out of trouble, should they find themselves in it, and often it does.
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Men often think the pretty women are too unavailable/too stuck up/too frigid or whatever to get down and dirty fulfilling the most carnal sexual pleasures.
Look at Arnold Schwarzenegger- he fucked the ugly ass maid (proof you can’t even hire ugly women to work with your man without risking cheating) and didn’t just fuck her but put a baby in her.
Men don’t care as much about looks as they claim especially not ones with sex addictions or old ass mfs. They just trying to feel youthful and bust as many nuts by any means possible.
Also The average dude p4p is behind closed doors.. it’s not like they’re posing for photos or walking hand in hand in public so using them for arm candy is not as important.
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LOL^!
WPB, wonder if he ever visited Rachel's!
I like how he's pictured in suit/tie, like oh so proper!
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They have a good point. The only reason to release the video now, is to prejudice the jury pool. Particularly since the prosecution knows the defense is challenging the warrant and wants the video suppressed.
If it is released, the defense might contend the entire prosecution must be dismissed.
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They'll need Dramaine to watch his wrinkle ass
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miss.a.p1600
Men often think the pretty women are too unavailable/too stuck up/too frigid or whatever to get down and dirty fulfilling the most carnal sexual pleasures.
Look at Arnold Schwarzenegger- he fucked the ugly ass maid (proof you can’t even hire ugly women to work with your man without risking cheating) and didn’t just fuck her but put a baby in her.
Men don’t care as much about looks as they claim especially not ones with sex addictions or old ass mfs. They just trying to feel youthful and bust as many nuts by any means possible.
Also The average dude p4p is behind closed doors.. it’s not like they’re posing for photos or walking hand in hand in public so using them for arm candy is not as important.
Yeah, it is seen in the strip club.
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Y'all know good & well, if this was a woman this thing happened to, she'd already be locked up & fined.
Please.::) FOH, as the farce played on, lol
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slowpoke
They have a good point. The only reason to release the video now, is to prejudice the jury pool. Particularly since the prosecution knows the defense is challenging the warrant and wants the video suppressed.
If it is released, the defense might contend the entire prosecution must be dismissed.
Isn’t the jury supposed to be objective or is it just human nature to be prejudiced some situations?
If they are that worried about this film I bet he did some really crazy things beyond the typical hand job
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"supposed to be" is the key. Can you throw a skunk in the jury box and tell the jury to ignore it?
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So suppressing the video evidence is only possible if the method to obtain the video (with the delayed notice warrant) is not valid?
From what I understand that type of warrant is supposed to be meant to catch t*rrorists but it seems law enforcement is using it to catch drug dealers and bust pr*stitution rings
But didn’t a judge sign off on the warrant before it was put in place?
http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/s...peek-warrants/
https://www.aclu.org/other/how-usa-p...-peek-warrants
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We will have to see if he is successful. If the police made false statements to obtain the warrant, the evidence might be suppressed.
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whirlerz
Y'all know good & well, if this was a woman this thing happened to, she'd already be locked up & fined.
Please.::) FOH, as the farce played on, lol
Not necessarily, if the woman was a billionaire.
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Delayed notice warrant and Surveillance video from past spa busts
https://www.wptv.com/news/region-mar...-point-of-view
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miss.a.p1600
Exactly
He’s trying to say that his “privacy” might be infringed upon.
for strippers there is no expectation of privacy even in VIP rooms so why should he be any different?
It’s not like he was in privacy of his own home he went to a public business broad daylight
He went to a place where there was a reasonable expectation of privacy.
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Whether he had a reasonable expectation of privacy is not dependent on whether it was a place of business. Here is a primer on the subject.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katz_v._United_States