Getting sacked- possibility to get rehired?
I worked the UK for a month as a dance. I am a newbie and one night i ended up falling asleep at the bar. Although i had been drinking it was not due to alcohol , I was on my period which is extremely heavy , found out i am anemic. I also accidently ate something which im allergic to which causes extreme fatigue . Il sleep for 12 hours for a month.
Anyways my manager put me on a drinking ban , i told him i hadnt slept that day and it was my 4th shift. didnt go into me being on my period as he scares the shit out of me.
So I'm new so i obviously carried on drinking on other shifts but I would take my own alcohol in/or drink before the shift. One night i went to the kitchen to pick up my food then went to cash out. The manager went crazy as he said is should have cashed out straight away and then the bartender said i had been drinking to him. customers had been buying me drinks but obviously, i hadn't been drinking them. I just assumed it was part of the hustle to let them buy drinks as its making money for the club.
he asked if i had been drinking and i said no, to which he replied, bartender said you have dont come back.
The thing is i dont think i should have been banned in the first place i was ill, i did ask member of staff if i could go home to which they replied, manager probably won't let you.
Its been a week and its the best club in town and i really want my job back. whats the likelihood of manager rehiring? I really want to ring hhim but im scared, should i email him? Also there is a female manager but hes the general manager so I'm guessing hes the one in charge as hes the one who sacks girls.
Doctors said they would write me a medical note. ovb we are self employed so its complicated
i know in about 2 months when im used to it, il stop drinking but right now till i get used it i wont.
Re: Getting sacked- possibility to get rehired?
Regardless of where you go, best thing is to stop drinking at work -- period. Aside from your medical issues, this is exactly how on-the-job drinking problems start. If you can't do the job sober, you don't need to be doing it.
If I was that manager, I would have fired you too. 1) Falling asleep on the floor looks bad, no matter why you did it. You looked sloppy and unprofessional, and an upscale club is not going to have a lot of patience for that. 2) You kept drinking in direct defiance of the manager's order to not do so at work. It looks from a management POV like you have a drinking problem, an authority problem, or both. 3) 'Obviously I hadn't been drinking the alcoholic drinks the bartender gave me' -- it's not the bartender's job to monitor what you are drinking and how much. New dancers, even if they are not inclined to imbibe, typically don't know the tricks that let them avoid drinking with the customer none the wiser, so he had no way of knowing you 'weren't really drinking'. He may not have been meaning to snitch on you, but he did serve you. So there really is no 'obviously I wasn't drinking even though I was accepting alcoholic drinks'
Get a doctor note and try another club, get some experience, and keep your shit together. Learn how to work sober. Try again at this place in six months, by then they will most likely have forgotten completely about you (newer girls have an especially high turnover rate) and you will have the experience to get the most out of working there.
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hi ,
he did not serve me!!! atall. only customers i was with!! who ordered two drinks?? not once did i drink in the club. customer took drinks to private room and they were left there.
ive done worse jobs than this and i know i have to drink a bit for the first 2 months then i can do it sober. but you are right, i didn't realise how much i was drinking till i sat down and calculated it today. so my plan is to only drink a specific amount, that won't get me smai have some minor learning difficulties that make me forgetful, basically, take twice as long as a normal person to get the hang of this.
who am giving the doctors note too. my old club or new one.
so dont ring up and apologise , just wait? ironically a girl i met a girl that night who got sacked for drinking but was allowed back because she said she had anxiety and couldn't work sober.
there's not many ethinic minority girls that work there, you sure they will forget after 6 months.??
thank you very much for your advice
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There is a high turnover rate in this industry in general -- but particularly so for newer girls. For any number of reasons, many girls start for a few days, or weeks, or months, then just don't come back. Anything from not liking the particular club, to not liking the job in general, to reasons that have nothing to do with work. It's just a revolving-door kinda job. So yes, in a few months they will likely forget you unless you went out on a particularly spectacular note :D
Keep the dr's note handy at the new club. Once you're hired and going over your contract and other paperwork, that's the time to bring up your medical stuff. Make a couple of copies of the dr's note in case you decide to club-hop between now and re-trying your original club.
I wouldn't bother trying to apologise. This is not like in 'real world' workplaces where that scores you brownie points. Between the high turnover, and all the other bs they deal with -- including problem children who do have legit substance issues -- they won't want to hear it. If it's really an upscale place, standards are going to be higher and it was probably nothing personal on his end, he just wanted to nip the (perceived) problem asap and be done with it. The couple times I have gotten fired, it didn't matter how crappy the reason was, or how right I was -- once the decision was made, that was it, and it's unfortunately pretty standard. There isn't really any kind of appeals process so it's best to just move on and consider trying again at a later date. Don't worry about 'Bubbles who got hired back for whatever reason' bc you have no idea what went on between her and the club powers-that-be. Stay in your own lane.
As to the mess with the bartender, you described getting served by him bc your customer(s?) wanted to buy you drinks. Whether you drank those drinks you accepted is not the bartender's concern (unless you're underage, but that's another thing entirely). As far as he knew, if you accepted a drink from a customer, he did serve you and it wasn't an unreasonable assumption that you drank it. Your wording also suggested that you were drinking, plus you admitted to drinking on other shifts as well as pre-gaming. There's also the problem that 'I will only drink a set amount' can quickly escalate as you build a tolerance to alcohol. Drinking won't help you navigate the learning curve and can lead to a host of other trouble so it might behoove you to reconsider this 'I have to drink' mentality.
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thank you so much for your wonderful advice. from your username you ovbiously know your stuff. yes i wont be drinking by august!
how do you know if its upscale? its spearmint rhino. i assume when i try again in 6 months not to mention it, the thought of turning up for an audition again and him remembering me terrifies me.
in october it gets really busy so theyll be hiring loads of new girls, maybe il try then. i suppose the fist start is getting out my head that , that is the best club.
any tips for more confidence? maybe i should invest in a therapist haha.
have you ever gone back to somewhere you got fired?
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I totally agree with the advice above - don't drink at work. Water, soft drinks, nothing stronger. You are there to work and make money.
As to getting fired, I was fired from the same club three times. Twice for being under age and once just because the manager was a jerk. After being fired for being under age, I waited a few weeks and came back. No problems, until they found out I wasn't 21 and then got fired. Went back a third time, no problem even though I'd worked there twice before and was fired twice. Third time, the MGR thought I was setting up an OTC meet (which I was), so he fired me. The guy I was setting up the OTC with was a cop and I was going to dance for his best buddy's bachelor party. (Which I did.) I'm pretty sure they would have taken me back a fourth time if I'd applied.
XOXO
Z
P.S. don't mess up a cop's bachelor party. That MGR ended up with two DUIs in rapid succession.
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thanks zofia for taking the time out to reply. I may call the female manager to see whether its worth coming back, shes a lot more friendlier , if she says no il wait 6 months xx. When you went back a second time did they not recognise you? or did they recognise you? how did you approach going back the second time. im quite shy/reserved when it comes to my real life with guys, i guess ive been drinking for confidence xx
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Re: Getting sacked- possibility to get rehired?
1. No drinking at work, no bargaining with yourself along the lines of ‘well I’ll just drink every night for the first 2 months until I can handle it sober’. Nope nope nope. IF you can work sober for 3 months then you can think about having half a drink if a custie offers to buy. No buying your own or sneaking in your own booze.
2. When you fall asleep at the bar people are immediately going to assume the worst aka that you are nodded out on heroin. That is why the manager had to cover his ass and let you go! I’m not saying this to shame you and I’m sympathetic to your medical issue. But it’s something you’ll have to learn to manage. Are you able to feel when a nap is coming on? Go hide in the dressing room while you sleep it off. How do you manage this condition at other vanilla jobs you’ve held?
3. Did I mention no drinking at work? We care about your health and safety and you really sound like someone who needs to be sober to do this job. Think of it like a fun challenge to make yourself grow as a person. There are posts all throughout this forum where dancers talk about going back sober after taking time off due to their drinking getting out of control. Pretty much every thread about this topic goes the same way: Dancer is nervous before hand, then the first shift back goes just fine and she ends up making more money than she used to.
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I've only just recently been diagnosed, so I basically got sacked at my vanilla job but at the time I couldn't do anything about it. now i tell future employers about my disability .. and guess what i haven't been employed .. hence me dancing haha.
ive done worse sober, I know il to be sober soon. It's weird because I don't even drink casually at home. Need some anxiety meds.
anyways il keep u updated about old job. i already had a new job lined up two days after i got sacked, but couldn't get in the zone, tried another place where i made money and now tonight ive got an audition quite local, except I'm new to the area.
Would you guys say after a week you know whether you want to stick to a job or not?
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A lot can happen in a week. Depends on your experiences and how stubborn or even desperate you are to stick it out regardless of the negatives. I can say though, I have definitely known within the space of a week whether I liked a particular club enough to stay there.
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Mercedesdoll
thanks zofia for taking the time out to reply.
You are most welcome. :-)
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I may call the female manager to see whether its worth coming back, shes a lot more friendlier , if she says no il wait 6 months xx. When you went back a second time did they not recognise you? or did they recognise you? how did you approach going back the second time. im quite shy/reserved when it comes to my real life with guys, i guess ive been drinking for confidence xx
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The second time, the did not recognize me, nor did they get any required information from me. After about a week of dancing, some manager realized they didn't have my info and called me into the office. I gave them my driver's license and they fired me on the spot for being under 21. (It's legal for people under 21 to work in bars in the state where I was dancing, but that particular club didn't allow it.) When I came back the third time, again, I don't think they recognized me. There's a lot of turnover in management and dancers. When they finally asked for ID, I was 21 and the manager who was doing the checking said "don't I recognize you?" I said, "If you've seen me naked before, I am damn sure you'd recognize me."
XOXO
Z
Re: Getting sacked- possibility to get rehired?
oh i see thats a tricky one then, i could wait 6 months and prey theyve forgotten me! or i could just ring the female manager or could do both. working at new places and money is not the same
Re: Getting sacked- possibility to get rehired?
This is probably a sign for you to take better care of yourself and your health
If you really have a disability as you say then you should invest in some disability insurance or have at least 6 months expenses saved so if you have to break from work due to health then you are not stressed about money
A doctor is not going to backdate a sick note they are only going to say they saw you that same day. You should have seen a doctor the day all this happened.
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This is probably a sign for you to take better care of yourself and your health
If you really have a disability as you say then you should invest in some disability insurance or have at least 6 months expenses saved so if you have to break from work due to health then you are not stressed about money
A doctor is not going to backdate a sick note they are only going to say they saw you that same day. You should have seen a doctor the day all this happened.
Hi I’m from the UK so things are different here . The doctor are happy to back date my sick note because I had saw them before I got sacked anyway . So I have blood tests from a week before I got sacked . Yes I agree with you!? No more drinking:) I end up stopping because it costs me more money 😅in the long term. Did mud first shift sober