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Meeting potential WHALES outside of the club
There's this one very talented dancer at my club that comes in super late and pays the crazy house fee but doesn't seem to mind because she always makes it back in VIP and stays there alllll night long. I overheard a few girls in the back talking and figured out a part of her strategy. She knows she will get VIP because she arranges it before she even comes into work.
Down the road there's a casino. She dresses up SUPER nice (like as if for a sugar appointment) and hangs around there in the evening with a friend in tow. She'll sit at the bar and watch the games but never spend. She keeps an eye out for guys with money, that are spending a lot, or having a lucky streak. Even better if they're celebrating something. She'll make small talk and hit on them, even better if she's at the bar (she's offered a drink) or participating in the games with very low bets. But she starts flirting and mentions how she works at the club down the road and convinces them to go in and she'll be there soon to show them a good time, if they'll take care of her.
Has anyone done a different hustle and been successful?? Meeting potential whales otc first. I can also see it working at nightclubs, nice bars or hotels, etc
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lightningfarron
There's this one very talented dancer at my club that comes in super late and pays the crazy house fee but doesn't seem to mind because she always makes it back in VIP and stays there alllll night long. I overheard a few girls in the back talking and figured out a part of her strategy. She knows she will get VIP because she arranges it before she even comes into work.
Down the road there's a casino. She dresses up SUPER nice (like as if for a sugar appointment) and hangs around there in the evening with a friend in tow. She'll sit at the bar and watch the games but never spend. She keeps an eye out for guys with money, that are spending a lot, or having a lucky streak. Even better if they're celebrating something. She'll make small talk and hit on them, even better if she's at the bar (she's offered a drink) or participating in the games with very low bets. But she starts flirting and mentions how she works at the club down the road and convinces them to go in and she'll be there soon to show them a good time, if they'll take care of her.
Has anyone done a different hustle and been successful?? Meeting potential whales otc first. I can also see it working at nightclubs, nice bars or hotels, etc
I worked with an older dancer who did things this way BUT it was very controversial. The club allowed it b/c she had worked there for years and she had a LTR they knew about, but other dancers were crazy jealous of her and tormented management about it. (To be fair this club had a problem with tolerating garbage from house girls.)
The main problem with this is how guys act....Most will beg you to leave the club/VIP experience out of the transaction and some will even get weird or threatening.
It might work with really wealthy guys but that's the minority.
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does she have sex with them in VIP? I don't see the appeal for a customer to visit a girl in a club, when she's right in front of them otc already. moat customers try to get us outside, in a hotel room.. seems backwards. but hey, great for her if it works.
I personally would be wayyy too scared that someone would accuse me of being a hooker.
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That kind of just sounds like a way to engage in prostitution without having to book a room in anyones name or do it in the backseat of a car.
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crystalize
does she have sex with them in VIP? I don't see the appeal for a customer to visit a girl in a club, when she's right in front of them otc already. moat customers try to get us outside, in a hotel room.. seems backwards. but hey, great for her if it works.
I personally would be wayyy too scared that someone would accuse me of being a hooker.
Well if a lady IS a hooker and guys follow her from casino to club, that’s actually genius. Because the casino can’t accuse her of being a hooker + if this is a strip club with lax rules then the legal ramifications of being a “hooker” are lessened
I personally don’t understand why dudes would delay gratification and just get a room at the casino or offer to leave casino to another hotel for an encounter but I guess FOSTA got ladies out here thinking outside the box.
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crystalize
I personally would be wayyy too scared that someone would accuse me of being a hooker.
Tbh this is definitely how it looks & if the casino finds out, they won’t care if you’re just inviting the guy back to the club for dances. My friend literally just got arrested for doing this exact thing.
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DreamsInDigital
Tbh this is definitely how it looks & if the casino finds out, they won’t care if you’re just inviting the guy back to the club for dances. My friend literally just got arrested for doing this exact thing.
If you could would you share more about what happened with your friend?
Also since human trafficking became a cultural buzz topic a LOT of bars have seminars for employees to learn how to spot suspicious activity at bars. Some places are more "hot spots" for it than others.
A better thing to do might be going to dinner with a potential whale- you have to MAKE him understand that it's the best thing for both parties, and also anyone who cannot act normally through dinner might not be the kind of guy you want to have an association with long term.
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I would be worried about them being potential stalker/psycho types and now they know where I work. Also most men who see a pretty woman at the casino are usually going to want more than just a VIP dance from her...how many of these men do you actually think are from the casino? Because most of those men would probably say something like ‘’why don’t we go up to my room instead?’’ This doesn’t sound like an effective business tactic
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^im guessing she uses the time between casino and club to screen them and only invites the screened dudes to the club
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If this chic is a great hustler and only entertaining then I'm gonna say she def knows how to pick them and work them well. After all, she's been doing it for a while.
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SnuffleUffleGrass
If you could would you share more about what happened with your friend?
She was out at the casino and invited some guys back to the club who turned out to be undercovers. They tried soliciting her for “extra services” and she declined & told them she doesn’t do that - they arrested her anyway. Unfortunately I don’t feel comfortable sharing a ton of details since she still has to go to court for it.
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^ Thank you for sharing that, I won't quote it in case you want to delete that.
Yeah in some places very flimsy/ small things can be misconstrued as agreeing to illegal acts. Ugh.
My advice, it's easier to just make the guy understand that money is part of the deal by just meeting them at the club- I know this will be mis-understood, but …….Basically if you meet a guy at the strip bar he has NO excuse to get cheap or abusive/manipulative with you. Plenty of girls befriend customers over time, it doesn't always equal prostitution.
To me it's somewhat amusing how some clubs will overlook VIP customers plucking girlfriends out of strip bars, but certain girls are fired for either rumors or being seen with a customer somewhere. It's stupid but a hazard that some dancers have to deal with.....
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Dreams, wow, for some reason I felt that!
Sorry to hear..
& glad to see you on here!
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That seems backwards. I guess different strokes for different folks. Casinos where I live have caught on to "working girls" though. I have seen women get kicked out of them for that kind of behavior, if a woman is hanging out in casino bars, obviously soliciting men. I suppose that hustle could work, depending on where you are. I think club customers are usually safer keeping them in the club. The potential of a man turning into a crazy, obsessed stalker is high when you're a stripper. The wealthy, powerful men are the worst when it comes to that.
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Hmm, she must be an extras girl op...
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DreamsInDigital
She was out at the casino and invited some guys back to the club who turned out to be undercovers. They tried soliciting her for “extra services” and she declined & told them she doesn’t do that - they arrested her anyway. Unfortunately I don’t feel comfortable sharing a ton of details since she still has to go to court for it.
How is that illegal and that gotten her arrested, when she invited them to the club without soliciting sex - promoters do that?
It may just be that cops are predators and want to arrest anybody for anything, and for they're competitive citation and arrest quotas--
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yaya_cash
How is that illegal and that gotten her arrested, when she invited them to the club without soliciting sex - promoters do that?
It may just be that cops are predators and want to arrest anybody for anything, and for they're competitive citation and arrest quotas--
That's exactly what I was thinking....
Although some places have ridiculous laws where they consider random benign acts in strip clubs as 'prostitution' because they are trying to shut down strip clubs. The savvy dancers though will keep their ear to the 'streets' lol and be up on possible strip club busts.
Also Probably a place where you're guilty until you/your high priced lawyers prove you're innocent.....so people with money get off on bullshit charges. This is why is best for dancers to save some money for a legal fund as that lady melonie who got banned suggested in her posts.
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So would you suggest to a person whom may be a target, to law enforcement, to introduce herself to a lawyer or to make a list of lawyers as a reference after doing some research?
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miss.a.p1600
That's exactly what I was thinking....
Although some places have ridiculous laws where they consider random benign acts in strip clubs as 'prostitution' because they are trying to shut down strip clubs. The savvy dancers though will keep their ear to the 'streets' lol and be up on possible strip club busts.
Also Probably a place where you're guilty until you/your high priced lawyers prove you're innocent.....so people with money get off on bullshit charges. This is why is best for dancers to save some money for a legal fund as that lady melonie who got banned suggested in her posts.
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Why on earth did they ban Melonie? She was the best!
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yaya_cash
So would you suggest to a person whom may be a target, to law enforcement, to introduce herself to a lawyer or to make a list of lawyers as a reference after doing some research?
Guess it depends on the current state of affairs. Me personally I’d do some research of the top lawyers who handle adult industry/business cases IF something started happening (club busts at club worked, odd changes in contracts, laws changed etc). Sometimes even just having random legal questions answered can be helpful - some lawyers do consult with clients as needed and not necessarily work only for trial cases.
But either way it’s always good to have some money accessible for possible legal defense.
I think melonie said there was a raid at her club and she got caught up in. And because she had money to defend herself she was able to beat the charges unlike her counterparts who used the free club attorney and had to agree to some bullshit lesser charges. This was her story probably thread still up somewhere - not sure how accurate.
But it is some accuracy to the fact that the people with money can buy pretty good justice most of the time whereas people lacking funds end up taking shitty deals unable to fund proving their innocence
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Adelina
Why on earth did they ban Melonie? She was the best!
Well everyone here is pretty much at the whim of the moderators.
Get on their bad side or don’t listen to their suggestions then that pretty much ends a persons member status here.
I remember one lady got real short with a moderator who was stepping a bit out of bounds. The lady was warned to cool off but kept going hard against the moderator.
She didnt gaf.
She got permanently banned.
Also if a person gets numerous chances/warnings then they run out of chances eventually. I think melonie was banned a couple times and just ran out of chances. She probably stopped caring. Some people simply don’t like to follow rules or take orders. I’ve heard theories but I’m not certain so I don’t want to put any false info out. And plus I think it’s against the sites rules to publicly discuss why a person got banned.
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miss.a.p1600
Well everyone here is pretty much at the whim of the moderators.
Get on their bad side or don’t listen to their suggestions then that pretty much ends a persons member status here.
I remember one lady got real short with a moderator who was stepping a bit out of bounds. The lady was warned to cool off but kept going hard against the moderator.
She didnt gaf.
She got permanently banned.
Also if a person gets numerous chances/warnings then they run out of chances eventually. I think melonie was banned a couple times and just ran out of chances. She probably stopped caring. Some people simply don’t like to follow rules or take orders. I’ve heard theories but I’m not certain so I don’t want to put any false info out. And plus I think it’s against the sites rules to publicly discuss why a person got banned.
To be fair to the Mods and Admin + site owner, some people have done some pretty awful things that totally deserve a ban from here. I don't want to stir drama since I'm fairly sure one ex-troll lurks here on the low. There's some stickied info on some sections about obsessive stalkers of this site or old drama.
Back on topic keep in mind casinos have to watch people closely, it's not just cheating at gambling they're looking for, but making sure people don't get robbed after they cash out, or people getting out of hand on the floor. I think a LOT of casinos don't care as much about women loitering BUT have to lump that in with issues that can become problematic.
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^and one occasional male troll openly lurks
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I'll just come out and say it- one female troll who has been banned from here DOES a lot of malicious shit to people & it's alarming enough that the mods perma banned her. She's sick in the head. (No it's not Melonie.)
Given the nature of the board and the Internet, the Mods are doing us all a huge favor by keeping people in check.
Back on topic- I honestly think looking for "whales" at a casino isn't too weird but yes the Security reserves the right to bounce you if they choose to....Not long ago you could get bounced from places for not wearing the right attire or cursing out loud. So unwanted loitering unfortunately falls within their right to remove a patron.
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This isn't unheard of, but I think it's too much work. You'd have to hang out at the casino, scope out guys, invite them to the club.. Etc. I'd also be paranoid of getting popped for prostitution. Kinda sounds like a case of extras in the VIP.. but its just my guess. Also, I don't see this working long term. They will eventually start asking you to meet outside the club.