Why does it take me so long to make money ?
I have two ways that I usually go about talking to customers . The first ways to be polite asked the guy how he’s doing and ask if it’s OK if I sit with him . From there I’ll talk with him for about three songs at the most ( unless I know he wants to talk more and tips me for my time talking to him) then I’ll ask if he wants to get a dance . If he says no , I thank him for his time and ask him to tip me for the time that I spent with him. Occasionally I’ll get the guy who will ask for me to come back to him in a couple minutes and he’ll get dances then. If I’m sitting with a guy and he wants a massage I’ll give it to him and I’ll get tips from that.
The second way that I approach a guy is to do the whole flash bend over thing but I introduce myself . I do this because I know there are guys who will want to check you out and get a dance from you right away .
I’m becoming frustrated because there are times where I will literally sit with the guy for three songs, be polite and flirty and he’ll want to spend time with me and he will literally only give me a dollar . I see a lot of other girls at the club who will literally go up to you guys and the guys will get dances with them right away or tip them well. I don’t understand why I have to wait so long and run the risk of not getting any money at all . Is there something that I can say or do that I’ll get them to give me dances faster ? Most men say that they don’t like when they come into a strip club and the girl ask right away if she wants to dance because they want to feel them out . I smile I am very friendly and even the people on my job say that I have a great personality. I always make sure I look good and a lot of guys complement me and tell me I’m very pretty. I’ve never had any issues with any of the girls at my club and when people bring drama to me I ignore it . ( not trying to sound arrogant just trying to get you guys to see where I’m coming from ) I understand that it may take a while to get a dance sometimes from a guy and I know that I shouldn’t be keeping up with what the other girls are doing or how many dances that they get , but I feel like I’m doing something wrong . I feel like if other girls are making money and doing dances pretty quick and I am not maybe I am doing something wrong . Any tips on how I can improve my hustle ?
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Comparison is the theif of joy.
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Your hustle seems ok. Have you ever just tried the one liner hustle on the guys? How do you know it doesn't work for you if you don't try it? Some girls are convinced it doesn't work for them, but never tried it themselves so sometimes it is all in your head.
I would say if it is busy just go for that quick hustle if you are trying to rack up a lot of $20 dances.
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It seems like you are doing ok. Your hustle seems good for the slower part of the night.
As it gets busier towards mid - later hours, I would only give it one song before asking.
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Couple of thoughts here.
Are you approaching them too soon? I often try not to be the first girl to approach, or if I am I make sure he's had at least 5 mins to settle in. Sometimes the first girl to approach will end up being the 'warm up' and then he takes the next girl right away.
Are you being too nice? Some guys will friendzone girls ::) The 'great personality' thing is good for those regulars who want the GFE but for guys who want to just no-strings-attached objectify and look at T&A, it makes them uncomfortable to do it once they've talked to you and realized you're a real person.
The way to avoid that is to talk for less time, always steer the convo back onto them (the less they know about you the better), and to have dumb stereotypical stripper answers about yourself. Example: I usually do NOT tell those type of men that I have two bachelors degrees; I tell them "tee hee I'm just taking the pre-reqs for nursing!"
Be more pushy overall. Seriously. Think of the most common objections you get and come up with counters to them.
Agreed with at least TRYING the one-liner hustle. It gets shit on on here a lot, but depending on the club & crowd it can be effective. I have had nights where I said "fuck these guys I'm done" and been borderline bitchy + the one-liner and made great money.
My formula is to walk up, say "Hi, how's it going?", extend my hand "Hi I'm Selina", they say hi I'm so-and-so, "Nice to meet you so-and-so, you look like you're ready for a naked lady!" The key IME is to have an attitude like you don't give a flying fuck if he gets a dance or not. Cut the fake customer service voice, etc.
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I’ve been the girl at both ends of the spectrum. The one who can’t sell worth a shit and getting jacked around by arrogant customers. (While the good spenders are already focused on another girl) And I’ve also been the queen of the room and flitting between nearly every customer. And the customers themselves point that out. It’s best when that happens, I didn’t have to to much to consciously manage my time with them. They knew they better get dances quick without me asking.
And my looks have stayed the same through those fluctuations. It’s one of the joys of this up and down industry. In the meantime, stay positive (whether it be from self help books, personal affirmations, or something else), practice self care to keep your body and your energy levels well (i have a lot to work on in that area as well), and also take in every day as a learning opportunity. If you make a mistake that blows your sales, then don’t worry about it. There’s always another customer and another day.
Also, in some clubs, it will take a while before making money. It is what it is and can be very profitable. I’m personally much better at faster rather slower hustles. I’ve been meaning to try my hand at the latter tho, just to improve all around though.
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Don't ask him if it is OK if you sit with him. Just sit down. He is there to be entertained and you are there to entertain. Don't give him the option to say no. Be more aggressive. Also, don't spend more than one song chatting before you ask for a dance. If you are trying to sell the private rooms then you can talk a little longer. Sell from the top down, so private room first for an hour. If he says no, then half, and then if no still then finally you can sell him some dance(S). Don't waste your time and when someone tips you a DOLLAR when you just talked to them for god knows how long, just say "oh it's ok hunny, you keep it". That shit is insulting. I'll only accept a DOLLAR on stage. If a guy tried to hand me one dollar on the floor, I'd laugh at him but that's just me.
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I often use the come-hither hand sign to tell guys to come over. Sometimes they are surprised because they expect me to approach. Once they approach, I say directly: let's go for a dance. Usually the guy who obliged to approach, will agree. Sometimes not but I may check on him again later with simple: are you ready? The ones who do not oblige to come over, they are the ones who would say no if I approached them. This tactic saves me time and energy and is a nice entertainment.
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Adelina
I often use the come-hither hand sign to tell guys to come over. Sometimes they are surprised because they expect me to approach. Once they approach, I say directly: let's go for a dance. Usually the guy who obliged to approach, will agree. Sometimes not but I may check on him again later with simple: are you ready? The ones who do not oblige to come over, they are the ones who would say no if I approached them. This tactic saves me time and energy and is a nice entertainment.
Can you describe this hand sign?:D:O
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It's come here with a finger or with a hand. It works!
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What the posts above say are dead on. You're going to need to be a little more aggressive. But allow me to add it this.
What's your look? And what look do the other girls have compared to yours? I'm not saying your look body wise, Men love all shapes and sizes. I'm saying whats your "look" personality wise. If you have a very sweet, kind, innocent, youthful gal who wears very neatly pressed clothes, who spends lots of time on her hair, and give off an aura of high class (who probably came from a upper middle class family), well that's great! BUT if you are working along side girls who have a don't give a fuck attitude, who seem to not care if they washed their stripper outfit last night, who are ok with rolling out of bed, washing their hair, and spending a few minutes on makeup before they hit the floor. That's definitely going to clash with your look.
Another thing to consider, are you working along side girls who give off the impression that they're party girls who love shots and tend to be trashed by the end of the night? Or are you the type of girl that can enjoy one glass of wine, but anything else is just not your thing? Heck I used to work with girls who loved sex and were totally down with escorting at the end of the night (or fucking some cute guy for free). Personally I can count on one hand the amount of sexual partners I've slept with. Just that vibe alone can roll off of you, unless you hide it.
Vibes and personality matter so much. The overall atmosphere of the club, the girls and the clients. You may not fit in. Especially when customers only have a few moments to look at you and decide.
Whatever you're doing isn't working, so start changing your stripper persona, the way you look, the way your act and your overall vibe. I went through the same exact thing you did when I started dancing 10 years ago. If you want, I'm happy to pm you about it and try and help fine tune whats going on. Regardless, good luck! So much of the adult industry is trial and error
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You are definitely talking too long to them for free/tips before asking for dance. I never talk longer than 1 song. It's enough time for him to decide if he wants you or not.
Maybe you are not his type.
Or maybe you are too friendly. Most customers don't want normal, everyday girls in a strip club, they want a fantasy, something they don't have at home. Some want sexy goddess, some elegant goddess, some school girl, some tattooed girl. Which are you?
Also, be more dominant. :)