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eagle2
Those stories are all old Eagle an any differences noted were a result of different ways in which county vs. state health agencies accounted for where a dead person resided. Since this time, two local TV affiliates of ABC and CBS put in a FOIA request for death totals from all 67 counties and then compared the total numbers to the state reported numbers. The discrepancies on a statewide basis were minor.
Unlike NY and other states where government can get away with playing games because they wield way too much control, this is the Sunshine State. Here local governments are not allowed to withhold that information from the press. If this story had any serious legs, the hounds at CNN, CNBC an other cable news outlets would have been all over it. In their absurd angst and anger, they are looking for anything to demonize DeSantis at this point for having the audacity to close later and open back up earlier.
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eagle2
A much higher percentage of flu deaths are among the elderly.
Florida has more than 2,500 deaths so far, including 69 in the past day.
There are people questioning how accurate FL and GA's figures are. Even so, both have higher death rates than CA, especially GA. GA's death rate is close to twice as high CA. Even though GA and FL re-opened, there are many businesses that remain closed and many people are continuing to shelter at home.
There is nobody reputable still questioning the accuracy of Florida's figures. Due to the Sunshine Act, local and state government information is widely accessible. Here we believe in accountable government and won't tolerate obfuscation.
So with that said, there are 27 states with higher death rates than FL, which btw has the same death rate as CA - 11 per 100,000. The difference is that Florida isn't firebombing its economy for the next several years in order to accomplish it.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...s-us-by-state/
Oh, and contrary to your assertions, businesses in 64 or 67 counties are pretty much wide open now. Restaurants are once again brimming with people and commercial activity has resumed. I just took my family to a resort for a long weekend, where my kids splashed around with other kids in several beautiful pools, and some restaurants had an hour or more wait. Retail businesses are fully back and even our strip clubs are opening back up tomorrow. The roads are once again clogged with cars. There is still a long way to go to full recovery, but this notion that FL business owners and consumers are huddling in their houses in fear is nonsense.
FL is a prime example of what happens when sanity and common sense are the mainstays of a state's government rather than politics and fear. FL doesn't need the federal government to bail out its public pensions, so DeSanstis didn't need to come up with absurd reasons to keep the economy closed in the hopes of leveraging more federal bailout money.
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Eric Stoner
Oh come now. You know me better than that. We've bantered back and forth for years in a civil manner.
Btw, it is often YOU who personalizes first. I don't mind . I can take it.
As for the word "infected " it can and does mean different things depending on the context. It can mean "sick" ; "exposed" and several other things. It is important because as YOU WELL KNOW , many people EXPOSED to Covid -19 do NOT have any symptoms. They can be and often are INFECTIOUS , meaning they can transmit the virus to others. I'm sorry , but I thought we AGREED about this.
As for the hypocritical attitude of many Blue State governors , it is a fact that they have hammered any business that has tried to open without their imprimatur despite all the precautions those businesses have taken. Yet these same folks are blithely permitting mass demonstrations without distancing or requiring masks. My point is a simple one - If we can have these demonstrations when groups are supposed to be limited in size then WHY can't businesses with strict sanitation , distancing and other precautions reopen. Likewise , they have had little to no sympathy for business owners and their employees but seem rather tolerant of looting those businesses. Looting and arson are destroying mostly black neighborhoods .
I could be patronizing and ask you whether or not you see any disconnect or inconsistency between the two policies but I don't want to insult you. I respect your intellect even when I strongly disagree with you.
I'm not opposed to allowing businesses that are able to operate safely, to open, if take the proper precautions. It doesn't make much difference what I think, since I don't have any say in the matter.
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Protests for racial equality wasn’t “allowed” any more than any other mass gathering.
Coronavirus has only impacted people for a few months so far not nearly as long as blacks/minorities have been dealing with the real threat of death from just existing in a supremacist society. Its really pathetic in 2020 blacks and minorities have to protest for BASIC human rights
With respects to religious freedoms, no one is going to die if they can’t physically attend church for a few months.
With respects to business, no one is going to die if they can’t do business (unless they owe money to black market)
No one is going to die if they can't eat at fucking PF Changs for 3 months
No one is going to die if they can't get their hair cut for 6 weeks.
What business will people die from if it doesn't open tomorrow??? BC grocery stores n hospitals been open.
Heaven forbid being inconvenienced for a few months. Try being inconvenienced your entire life because you were born with dark skin.
You’re also conveniently forgetting that many people protested the stay at home orders many of them not wearing masks/not social distancing - Not to mention they showed up WITH guns. Trump encouraged these people to go against their local government, yet I don’t recall any military force whatsoever against these armed protestors because most of them were his voter base - white and conservative
Now the spread of coronavirus.....everyone who hasn’t stayed at home, traipsed out in public sick, refused to social distance, or refused to wear mask in public is responsible for the surge.
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rickdugan
There is nobody reputable still questioning the accuracy of Florida's figures. Due to the Sunshine Act, local and state government information is widely accessible. Here we believe in accountable government and won't tolerate obfuscation.
So with that said, there are 27 states with higher death rates than FL, which btw has the same death rate as CA - 11 per 100,000. The difference is that Florida isn't firebombing its economy for the next several years in order to accomplish it.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...s-us-by-state/
Oh, and contrary to your assertions, businesses in 64 or 67 counties are pretty much wide open now. Restaurants are once again brimming with people and commercial activity has resumed. I just took my family to a resort for a long weekend, where my kids splashed around with other kids in several beautiful pools, and some restaurants had an hour or more wait. Retail businesses are fully back and even our strip clubs are opening back up tomorrow. The roads are once again clogged with cars. There is still a long way to go to full recovery, but this notion that FL business owners and consumers are huddling in their houses in fear is nonsense.
FL is a prime example of what happens when sanity and common sense are the mainstays of a state's government rather than politics and fear. FL doesn't need the federal government to bail out its public pensions, so DeSanstis didn't need to come up with absurd reasons to keep the economy closed in the hopes of leveraging more federal bailout money.
Georgia's death rate is close to twice as high as California's.
Florida Reports Highest Single Day Number Of COVID-19 Cases Yet; Hillsborough County Adds 95 Cases
https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/post/f...-adds-95-cases
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miss.a.p1600
Now the spread of coronavirus.....everyone who hasn’t stayed at home, traipsed out in public sick, refused to social distance, or refused to wear mask in public is responsible for the surge.
I was just out for errands and would say about 20% of people had masks. I don't understand.
I'm still pissed about the repair guy who came out with no mask or gloves, and wouldn't even wipe down all the surfaces he touched. I called the manager and he was like "whatever."
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eagle2
I can't speak for GA because I have not done enough digging to speak intelligently on what's happening there. I suspect that neither have you if your ongoing grasping at straws re: Florida is any indication.
The FL numbers are up because the state continues to expand testing, actively sending roving testing teams into nursing homes and prisons among other places. It goes to figure that the more widespread testing is, the more cases you will find. A lot more of the people being found now are asymptomatic. Our hospitalization rates and death rates continue to trend in the right direction.
This is why FL focuses not on the number of cases found on any given day, but on positivity rates. Statewide about only 4% of the tests are coming back positive, as opposed to much higher percentages in many other northern states. But even that 4% includes a much higher 10% rate in the three SE counties, which is why they are still in Phase 1 while the rest of the state has gone to Phase 2.
FL just keeps doing things right. :)
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https://youtu.be/CsJFNQd62Wk Have you seen the movie idioticracy? The premise is stupid people multiple more than smart people and now society is dumb. It’s strangely surreal.
On the masks, I read an article of the psychology of why people don’t where masks because it really bothered me. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...rnd/index.html
Honestly, I’m just trying to ignore it because I can’t control it. I put my mask on and ignore the idiots. I don’t even waste time silently judging people who don’t where masks in public. I just get my shit and get out ASAP.
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eagle2
You don't know that. Gloves do nothing to prevent the spread of the virus. The virus can just as easily spread from a gloved hand as an uncovered hand. You can't take communion wearing a mask.
COVID-19 is far more contagious than cholera. Cholera is transmitted through human waste. COVID-19 is transmitted through breathing or talking. There are no treatments that are 100% effective. If there were, there wouldn't be thousands of people dying every day.
Controlled tests have shown hydroxychloroquine is not only not effective, but can be deadly. What is your evidence that these studies are flawed?
No it isn't. The pandemic in Italy was traced back to an outdoor football (soccer) match. When Florida opened beaches for spring break, some of those students that went to the beaches, later tested positive. Businesses that can operate safely should be allowed to open. Businesses that can't, should not. Science should be the determining factor. Not politics. Wisconsin reopened two weeks ago and is now reporting its highest daily increase in COVID-19 Cases.
https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pan...covid-19-cases
I don't think you or Rick understand how deadly or contagious this disease is. We've already experienced over 100,000 deaths over a 2 1/2 month period.
People from the Bronx could easily travel to Brooklyn or Queens.
The last two studies that claimed to show that hydroxychloroquine was both dangerous and ineffective have both been RETRACTED. The Lancet admitted the study it published was based on faulty and maybe even made up data. Same for the New England Journal of Medicine study.
According to Dr. Harvey Risch of the Yale School of Public Health in a small number of patients with serious, pre-existing heart problems there is a higher risk of death. In 30 to 50 year olds ( a low risk group ) there was a 17% benefit of taking hydroxychloroquine preventatively. The latest Brazilian controlled study showed a benefit to sicker patients who got the drug.
Thousands of clinicians , who actually TREAT patients prescribe it every day to patients with serious Covid symptoms. They tend to be older and have underlying conditions. Most have clear improvement after 5 or 6 days. More importantly they stay out of hospitals and off ventilators.
The latest from the WHO is that asymptomatic spread is very rare. If you are not sneezing or coughing there is a very low chance that you will infect others.
So far, the mass protests have not resulted in a spike in Covid cases. Neither have reopenings.
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Eric Stoner
The last two studies that claimed to show that hydroxychloroquine was both dangerous and ineffective have both been RETRACTED. The Lancet admitted the study it published was based on faulty and maybe even made up data. Same for the New England Journal of Medicine study.
According to Dr. Harvey Risch of the Yale School of Public Health in a small number of patients with serious, pre-existing heart problems there is a higher risk of death. In 30 to 50 year olds ( a low risk group ) there was a 17% benefit of taking hydroxychloroquine preventatively. The latest Brazilian controlled study showed a benefit to sicker patients who got the drug.
Thousands of clinicians , who actually TREAT patients prescribe it every day to patients with serious Covid symptoms. They tend to be older and have underlying conditions. Most have clear improvement after 5 or 6 days. More importantly they stay out of hospitals and off ventilators.
The latest from the WHO is that asymptomatic spread is very rare. If you are not sneezing or coughing there is a very low chance that you will infect others.
Here's another study in Great Britain:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/05/...o-use-of-drug/
“Today’s preliminary results from the RECOVERY trial are quite clear – hydroxychloroquine does not reduce the risk of death among hospitalized patients with this new disease,” University of Oxford epidemiologist Martin Landray, one of the study’s leaders, said in a statement. “This result should change medical practice worldwide and demonstrates the importance of large, randomized trials to inform decisions about both the efficacy and the safety of treatments.”
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Eric Stoner
So far, the mass protests have not resulted in a spike in Covid cases. Neither have reopenings.
It's too early to tell whether or the protest have resulted in an increase in COVID-19 cases. Also, most of the protesters were wearing masks, which could have possibly prevented it from spreading.
As I mentioned in a previous posts, ICU beds in Montgomery AL have reached capacity from the virus. Texas is now at an all-time high in coronavirus hospitalizations, and experts are expecting the number to increase.
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06...pitalizations/
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Eagle - I don't want to risk insulting you but I have to question whether you read your own links. The study you refer to dealt with HOSPITALIZED patients. Almost every study so far has made it clear that hydroxychloroquine benefits those with mild to moderate symptoms i.e. patients who are NOT in hospitals. That is the whole point of giving them the drug. To keep them OUT of hospitals. To keep them OFF ventilators. There are thousands of doctors who prescribe it every day. Are you saying that they are giving a drug to people that they know does not work ? Why would they do that ? It's a cheap generic. Those same doctors routinely report significant improvement in their patients who are on the drug. How do you account for it ? A placebo effect ? Why does this matter to you ? Why does a proven , effective treatment seem to generate such angst ?
If you do not like or agree with the clinical facts then please take it up with the treating doctors and maybe you can persuade them that they are endangering their patients for little to no therapeutic gain.
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If you allegedly didn’t want to risk insulting someone you wouldn’t even need to say a phrase like that. “I don’t wanna insult you but ...... (proceeds to make insulting statement)
Do you have some links to valid studies to reiterate your points? from what I understand is there isn’t much *solid* research either way and it’s not FDA approved for Covid 19
Also add to that there is probably a threat of greedy people hoarding the medication from people who need it - People who have a diagnosis that have fda approval for that medication. In addition, If patients take off label drugs for coronavirus they would need to be well informed of the risks vs advantages.
If I’m reading this correctly As of April 2020 the fda approved emergency use of the medication but it does not provide anything else in regards to the safety or effectiveness.https://www.fda.gov/media/136537/download Outside of clinical trial or hospital setting, there is risk of heart problems https://www.fda.gov/safety/medical-p...ns-against-use
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/fda-...aria-drug.html
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Eric Stoner
Eagle - I don't want to risk insulting you but I have to question whether you read your own links. The study you refer to dealt with HOSPITALIZED patients. Almost every study so far has made it clear that hydroxychloroquine benefits those with mild to moderate symptoms i.e. patients who are NOT in hospitals. That is the whole point of giving them the drug. To keep them OUT of hospitals. To keep them OFF ventilators. There are thousands of doctors who prescribe it every day. Are you saying that they are giving a drug to people that they know does not work ? Why would they do that ? It's a cheap generic. Those same doctors routinely report significant improvement in their patients who are on the drug. How do you account for it ? A placebo effect ? Why does this matter to you ? Why does a proven , effective treatment seem to generate such angst ?
If you do not like or agree with the clinical facts then please take it up with the treating doctors and maybe you can persuade them that they are endangering their patients
for little to no therapeutic gain.
I have yet to see any evidence that hydroxychloroquine is beneficial in any way, to anyone who has been hospitalized for COVID-19, or even exposed to it. I have yet to see you provide any evidence that it is.
From:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...event-covid-19
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Praised by presidents as a potential miracle cure and dismissed by others as a deadly distraction, hydroxychloroquine was spared a seeming death blow last week. On 4 June, after critics challenged the data, The Lancet suddenly retracted a paper that had suggested the drug increased the death rate in COVID-19 patients, a finding that had stopped many clinical trials in their tracks. But now three large studies, two in people exposed to the virus and at risk of infection and the other in severely ill patients, show no benefit from the drug. Coming on top of earlier smaller trials with disappointing findings, the new results mean it’s time to move on, some scientists say, and end most of the trials still in progress.
Florida ordered one million doses of the drug, and they can't even give it away:
https://www.politico.com/states/flor...ant-it-1292638
Where are all of these doctors that you claim are prescribing it?
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rickdugan
I can't speak for GA because I have not done enough digging to speak intelligently on what's happening there. I suspect that neither have you if your ongoing grasping at straws re: Florida is any indication.
The FL numbers are up because the state continues to expand testing, actively sending roving testing teams into nursing homes and prisons among other places. It goes to figure that the more widespread testing is, the more cases you will find. A lot more of the people being found now are asymptomatic. Our hospitalization rates and death rates continue to trend in the right direction.
This is why FL focuses not on the number of cases found on any given day, but on positivity rates. Statewide about only 4% of the tests are coming back positive, as opposed to much higher percentages in many other northern states. But even that 4% includes a much higher 10% rate in the three SE counties, which is why they are still in Phase 1 while the rest of the state has gone to Phase 2.
FL just keeps doing things right. :)
Florida hit a new high of 2,783 coronavirus cases on Monday, and the number could not be attributed to increased testing.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/flo...al-hits-80000/
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A Miami Herald analysis of public and non-public COVID-19 data found that as of June 3, new cases in the state had consistently been trending up since mid-May and the trends could not be attributed solely to increases in testing, which had been inconsistent and sometimes declining during that period.
There were also 55 new deaths in FL on Monday. That's more than in NY, NJ, and California on that same day, in which there were 47, 52, and 23.
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Floriduh's numbers are way up because they were never accurate in the first place. This state is known for fudging numbers and most of us here knew something was off weeks ago. Aside from that there are undocumented deaths in the state (including children) because there are so many undocumented people. About 6 weeks ago a little girl in my neighborhood died from covid. Then a few days later so did her cousin. But it never made it to the news and we just recently found out why. I do love it here but it is not the state to hold up as a shiny example during a debate.
Here's some recent news about Rebekah Jones the fired data scientist
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/14/87658..._medium=social
"To me, it did not read like some kind of political conspiracy or some higher directive," Jones says. "It seemed like people who expected when I brought in those results, the results to support the plan they had written, and they did not, they seemed panicked, and like they had to figure out a way to make the results match the plan."
Florida entered Phase 1 of its reopening on May 4, in all counties except Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach. It eased restrictions even further with the start of Phase 2 on June 5 but is now among the more than 20 states where new daily cases are rising. As of Sunday, the state has had more than 73,000 cases and nearly 3,000 deaths.
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PhatGirlDynomite!!!
Floriduh's numbers are way up because they were never accurate in the first place. This state is known for fudging numbers and most of us here knew something was off weeks ago. Aside from that there are undocumented deaths in the state (including children) because there are so many undocumented people. About 6 weeks ago a little girl in my neighborhood died from covid. Then a few days later so did her cousin. But it never made it to the news and we just recently found out why. I do love it here but it is not the state to hold up as a shiny example during a debate.
Two kids dying in a week in close proximity is some groundbreaking stuff. Is there any reason why the county medical examiner did not consider them COVID deaths? Have you reported this to the press?
As far as the rest, you can't just make sweeping statements that the state is fudging numbers without some hard evidence. The Florida site provides those numbers on both a statewide and county by county level. In order for a cover-up to exist, we'd have to have several counties complicit with the state bureaucracy in a massive conspiracy involving easily hundreds of people. Then we'd need a press, which by the way has been digging with all its might to find some issue with the stats, to join in. Idk Phat, but that is rather unlikely IMHO.
And yes we are finding more cases because the state continues to dramatically increase its testing. From many reports I've read, a high percentage of those cases are asymptomatic. Are you seeing something different?
I guess that until I see actual evidence that the state is fudging numbers or an increase in cases that can't be explained by the expanded testing, I'm going to disagree with you. I am very pleased with how DeSantis has handled this, including starting to get people back to work and kids back where they should be, with other kids.
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Btw Rebekah Jones is not a scientist. She has the title "Dr." because she has a doctorate in geography. She has no background in epidemiology, biology, or even public health and was fired for believing that her opinion about how to categorize data was more worthy than her superiors, who are actual scientists. This is just more noise by a press looking for anything it can find.
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PhatGirlDynomite!!!
Floriduh's numbers are way up because they were never accurate in the first place. This state is known for fudging numbers and most of us here knew something was off weeks ago. Aside from that there are undocumented deaths in the state (including children) because there are so many undocumented people. About 6 weeks ago a little girl in my neighborhood died from covid. Then a few days later so did her cousin. But it never made it to the news and we just recently found out why. I do love it here but it is not the state to hold up as a shiny example during a debate.
Here's some recent news about Rebekah Jones the fired data scientist
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/14/87658..._medium=social
"To me, it did not read like some kind of political conspiracy or some higher directive," Jones says. "It seemed like people who expected when I brought in those results, the results to support the plan they had written, and they did not, they seemed panicked, and like they had to figure out a way to make the results match the plan."
Florida entered Phase 1 of its reopening on May 4, in all counties except Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach. It eased restrictions even further with the start of Phase 2 on June 5 but is now among the more than 20 states where new daily cases are rising. As of Sunday, the state has had more than 73,000 cases and nearly 3,000 deaths.
I love NPR!
The best predictor of the future is past behavior. Until there’s a vaccine or a really effective treatment things will get worse because the public is not doing what they are suppose to-wear masks and social distancing.
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PhatGirlDynomite!!!
Floriduh's numbers are way up because they were never accurate in the first place. This state is known for fudging numbers and most of us here knew something was off weeks ago. Aside from that there are undocumented deaths in the state (including children) because there are so many undocumented people. About 6 weeks ago a little girl in my neighborhood died from covid. Then a few days later so did her cousin. But it never made it to the news and we just recently found out why. I do love it here but it is not the state to hold up as a shiny example during a debate.
Here's some recent news about Rebekah Jones the fired data scientist
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/14/87658..._medium=social
"To me, it did not read like some kind of political conspiracy or some higher directive," Jones says. "It seemed like people who expected when I brought in those results, the results to support the plan they had written, and they did not, they seemed panicked, and like they had to figure out a way to make the results match the plan."
Florida entered Phase 1 of its reopening on May 4, in all counties except Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach. It eased restrictions even further with the start of Phase 2 on June 5 but is now among the more than 20 states where new daily cases are rising. As of Sunday, the state has had more than 73,000 cases and nearly 3,000 deaths.
Kind of an anecdotal observation but-
On my visits to Florida I got the impression a lot of people avoid dealing with law enforcement and government-oriented officials. I could easily see people just getting by not understanding they have Covid 19 until it's way too late for them :-\
In my state it's been mostly older/sedentary people who have died from Covid 19. //Just saying.
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Every doctor I HAVE PERSONALLY SPOKEN to about Covid-19 who actually TREATS patients. They are ALL prescribing it. One is a family practicioner ; two are cardiologists ; another is an infectious disease specialist. The so-called "studies" minimizing the benefit of hydroxychloroquine have ALL been discounted and in some cases completely discredited.
Then there are all the TREATING doctors who have gone on ( God Help Us ! ) Fox News and spelled out its uses and successes. None have said it helps everybody or is some sort of cure all. It is A treatment. Not the only one.
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Eric Stoner
Every doctor I HAVE PERSONALLY SPOKEN to about Covid-19 who actually TREATS patients. They are ALL prescribing it. One is a family practicioner ; two are cardiologists ; another is an infectious disease specialist. The so-called "studies" minimizing the benefit of hydroxychloroquine have ALL been discounted and in some cases completely discredited.
Then there are all the TREATING doctors who have gone on ( God Help Us ! ) Fox News and spelled out its uses and successes. None have said it helps everybody or is some sort of cure all. It is A treatment. Not the only one.
FDA just revoked its approval: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...hloroquine-and
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Florida and Texas and Arizona and California and S Carolina now all showing record numbers of cases
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PhatGirlDynomite!!!
Floriduh's numbers are way up because they were never accurate in the first place. This state is known for fudging numbers and most of us here knew something was off weeks ago. Aside from that there are undocumented deaths in the state (including children) because there are so many undocumented people. About 6 weeks ago a little girl in my neighborhood died from covid. Then a few days later so did her cousin. But it never made it to the news and we just recently found out why. I do love it here but it is not the state to hold up as a shiny example during a debate.
Here's some recent news about Rebekah Jones the fired data scientist
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/14/87658..._medium=social
"To me, it did not read like some kind of political conspiracy or some higher directive," Jones says. "It seemed like people who expected when I brought in those results, the results to support the plan they had written, and they did not, they seemed panicked, and like they had to figure out a way to make the results match the plan."
Florida entered Phase 1 of its reopening on May 4, in all counties except Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach. It eased restrictions even further with the start of Phase 2 on June 5 but is now among the more than 20 states where new daily cases are rising. As of Sunday, the state has had more than 73,000 cases and nearly 3,000 deaths.
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Yes numbers are very high in my city now and all my neighbour are splashing around in the pool.
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Yes numbers are very high in my city now and all my neighbour are splashing around in the pool.
Ugh. I’m trying to be less judgmental cause people are just mentally exhausted to the point they don’t care.
I think people are in denial about the severity of the situation. Just like an addict doesn’t change until they hit rock bottom, I keep wondering when America will hit its rock bottom and wake up. The nature of mankind is to wait until it’s too late or at least very, very bad before changing. We unfortunately evolve through suffering. It’d be cool if we could use our rationale minds to make good decisions that benefit everyone, but I think in this case things will get really bad before they get better.
The most important thing is to trust your divine guidance system-intuition-because we are being hella gaslit right now. Even the people who are trying to do the right thing, don’t exactly know what the “right thing” is to do. I’m serious. Listen to your gut and it will tell you exactly what you need to do to survive right now.