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Currently there is a Trump protest going on in Maricopa County in Arizona. These idiots are insisting the election was stolen from Trump (Why don't they talk to Pennsylvania about that?). It wasn't, Trump lost fair and square. But these people are batshit crazy. The counties are breaking for Biden. There's nothing they can do. We're in for it. There will probably be violence...
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^Even other world leaders and citizens of other countries are celebrating Trump being out. Nationally and globally the majority of people are over Trump and his bullshit. Repubs and all of Trump supporters had their chance now it's over. Trump and his cronies need to and its time for them to...
https://media1.tenor.com/images/eaad...itemid=8055436
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It's going to be interesting. This election basically said that the populace is tired of extremism and divisiveness on both sides of the aisle.
The voters spoke about Trump for sure. But this election was also a solid win for Republicans in both Congress and in state elections. A lot of people have not been happy with the Dems on a number of policy fronts, including COVID lockdown policies and their sharp veer to the left on fiscal and social policies. Some of these themes will hang around their necks for years to come.
The Republicans will control the Senate for sure. They will have 50 within the next few days once NC and AK confirm and with 2 runoff elections in GA on Jan 5 that will very likely break their way, that number will be 52.
But the Senate will not be the only check on Biden. At least 10 seats flipped in the House. Nancy Pelosi is now going to have her hands full with a very slim majority with very divergent views. To get anything passed she is absolutely going to need the cooperation of the Blue Dog Dems, who are pissed off right now because they bore the brunt of the House Dem election losses. In fact they had a call with Pelosi last week and chewed her out for the losses the party took due to this crazy ass nonsense.
And if Biden tries to get crazy with Executive Orders, the Supreme Court will inevitably put a stop to it.
All of this is to say that Biden is going to have to govern with a high degree of bipartisanship if he wishes to get anything done at all. Let's hope that he's up to it.
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rickdugan
All of this is to say that Biden is going to have to govern with a high degree of bipartisanship if he wishes to get anything done at all. Let's hope that he's up to it.
That is one option. It is not the only option.
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kamiliam
That is one option. It is not the only option.
Interesting. Given everything I posted above I struggle to see the alternative, but maybe I'm not as imaginative as you. Care to elaborate?
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There is a fun thing (defended by a lot of people recently)called an executive order. People like Barr who spend their entire legal career with the pipe dream of collecting power in one branch via the courts often assume their ideals will always be in vogue.
I admit I skimmed over your initial point, but I don’t really think they will due to as I mentioned the idea that they will be in power in the end. They want the president to have as much power as possible, due to other factors that can be controlled like the electoral college.
It’s also silly how one party is expected to always play nice while in power while the other doesn’t politically play that way. Ask McConnell, who I believe is astounding at his job despite disagreeing with everything he believes.
Also I am not saying he will go crazy with EOs, he probably respects our institutions too much to do it. That is a typical Dem thing. Which for this I morally agree with them on
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Blovely
^Even other world leaders and citizens of other countries are celebrating Trump being out. Nationally and globally the majority of people are over Trump and his bullshit. Repubs and all of Trump supporters had their chance now it's over. Trump and his cronies need to and its time for them to...
https://media1.tenor.com/images/eaad...itemid=8055436
We need to make nice with our allies again. We've been fucking them over for four years, hopefully they don't blame US. We didn't do shit, it was the Monster did it.
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Trump Supporters out here protesting for that dude.
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An interesting gif on the post of someone who has been banned.
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I was Banned for three days (And still don't know why), and I didn't post it. Someone else did.
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AntiFa is STILL rioting in Seattle , Portland and now Denver . How much property do they get to destroy before there is a crackdown ? How many more people have to be injured ?
It's Biden's headache now. Let's see how he deals with it. I say he is going to ignore it.
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I haven't heard of any riots in Seattle.
ETA: Oh shit! I guess they are, just googled it. But this was yesterday. These people are fucking goofy. They keep beating up their own Protesters.
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Yesterday they actually attacked Democrat Party HQ in Portland. How poetic.
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Eric Stoner
AntiFa is STILL rioting in Seattle , Portland and now Denver . How much property do they get to destroy before there is a crackdown ? How many more people have to be injured ?
It's Biden's headache now. Let's see how he deals with it. I say he is going to ignore it.
Like how Trump ignored coronavirus n rioters at the capitol?
Yep he has a Lot of work to do cleaning up the trash mostly created from 4 years of trump administration
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Raziel
I haven't heard of any riots in Seattle.
ETA: Oh shit! I guess they are, just googled it. But this was yesterday. These people are fucking goofy. They keep beating up their own Protesters.
antifa is not for the left. Just some violent deranged thugs with no jobs/nothing to lose who like tearing shit up
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The actual left are not democrats. Democrats and Republicans hold very similar ideas on almost everything but social issues. Which was on purpose. They are both neo-liberals. The “left” do not believe the same concepts. To anyone who wants to debate this with me, please explain the difference between anarchism and Democratic socialism
I can attest that in one of those cities it was not a riot. There were no deaths, and they damaged an Amazon store and a Starbucks. Why are you so worried about them? There were also alt right protestors and a police force that is having more and more fired for their white supremacist associations. This is not that terrifying especially compared to what we witnessed 2 weeks ago.
I also think it was a stupid time to plan a protest
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kamiliam
The actual left are not democrats. Democrats and Republicans hold very similar ideas on almost everything but social issues. Which was on purpose. They are both neo-liberals. The “left” do not believe the same concepts. To anyone who wants to debate this with me, please explain the difference between anarchism and Democratic socialism
I can attest that in one of those cities it was not a riot. There were no deaths, and they damaged an Amazon store and a Starbucks. Why are you so worried about them? There were also alt right protestors and a police force that is having more and more fired for their white supremacist associations. This is not that terrifying especially compared to what we witnessed 2 weeks ago.
I also think it was a stupid time to plan a protest
What protest ? Antifa doesn't protest. They just hurt people and break things. They want to tear down our entire society. That's what they say. To what end ? I don't know.
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miss.a.p1600
Like how Trump ignored coronavirus n rioters at the capitol?
Yep he has a Lot of work to do cleaning up the trash mostly created from 4 years of trump administration
Just like Trump had a big mess to clean up after 8 years of Obama.
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Eric Stoner
What protest ? Antifa doesn't protest. They just hurt people and break things. They want to tear down our entire society. That's what they say. To what end ? I don't know.
to dismantle the artificial hierarchies that you hold so dear...
and in this case protest ICE
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Eric Stoner
Just like Trump had a big mess to clean up after 8 years of Obama.
Are you serious? 4.5 percent unemployment. Inflation close to zero. 2 million jobs a year being created. Gasoline below $2.50. Peace and stability throughout most of the world.
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Trump is a one term president. What's that say?
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Eric Stoner
Just like Trump had a big mess to clean up after 8 years of Obama.
Obama never ignored a pandemic costing 200k+ American lives nor did he cause his supporters to tear up the capitol while he was in office.
Trump was like the feral cat drug in (by the brainwashed n the ignorant n the elite right) who trashed up the place and once you give it back to the wild, there is a big mess to clean up
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kamiliam
The actual left are not democrats. Democrats and Republicans hold very similar ideas on almost everything but social issues. Which was on purpose. They are both neo-liberals. The “left” do not believe the same concepts. To anyone who wants to debate this with me, please explain the difference between anarchism and Democratic socialism
I can attest that in one of those cities it was not a riot. There were no deaths, and they damaged an Amazon store and a Starbucks. Why are you so worried about them? There were also alt right protestors and a police force that is having more and more fired for their white supremacist associations. This is not that terrifying especially compared to what we witnessed 2 weeks ago.
I also think it was a stupid time to plan a protest
Interesting
Yeah all of my friends who vote Democrat are actually quite conservative and technically could just go ahead and vote Republican (but for some reason they vote Democrat because it’s some generational thing) and because many of them loathed the Trump.
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miss.a.p1600
Obama never ignored a pandemic costing 200k+ American lives nor did he cause his supporters to tear up the capitol while he was in office.
Trump was like the feral cat drug in (by the brainwashed n the ignorant n the elite right) who trashed up the place and once you give it back to the wild, there is a big mess to clean up
Currently 400K deaths.