Re: Life after vaccination
I have been thinking about this very topic for a few days now. I decided to browse for the latest info from nationally recognized infectious disease experts NOT named Fauci. Trying to get a sense of where we are and are likely to be a month or so from now. Depending on whose numbers you prefer , some 50 million people have been vaccinated and we are doing 2 million shots per day. In 30 days that is another 60 million people. Aside from specialized categories like health workers and first responders , most recipients are over 65. Add in all the people who have built up immunity and the number of people with no or reduced viral load is growing . Arithmetically but growing. And the variants do not yet appear to be unaffected by the vaccinations. So the question is : A month from now , how "open" can we safely be ? Especially schools ?
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I’d prefer people keep the mask on unless they were vaccinated and/or agree to temp checks and to stay 6ft away.
i like how servers have to wear masks and they’re not talking n spitting all over my food
Wearing masks post pandemic would also be ideal if you have to wait in a doctor office with other sick people or if you’re in an enclosed space like a bus or train or plane
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^^^unfortunately coronavirus will be around for awhile because it has an animal reservoir. (I was hoping it would be like smallpox vaccine,) I guess it’s up to every individual to do what they feel is best for their well being as we can’t count on the government or other people to have our best interest in mind (such is life). If I’m the only only wearing a mask in my community so be it. I do think moving forward we’ll really have to be our own advocates as the government and corporations will continue to put profit over people.
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Eric Stoner
I have been thinking about this very topic for a few days now. I decided to browse for the latest info from nationally recognized infectious disease experts NOT named Fauci. Trying to get a sense of where we are and are likely to be a month or so from now. Depending on whose numbers you prefer , some 50 million people have been vaccinated and we are doing 2 million shots per day. In 30 days that is another 60 million people. Aside from specialized categories like health workers and first responders , most recipients are over 65. Add in all the people who have built up immunity and the number of people with no or reduced viral load is growing . Arithmetically but growing. And the variants do not yet appear to be unaffected by the vaccinations. So the question is : A month from now , how "open" can we safely be ? Especially schools ?
They’re still in phase 1 of vaccinations here
Schools? I think a hybrid option would be a good idea so that those who want to stay at home can learn from home and those who want to go in person can go in person.
They should have a choice n not be forced to do it one way or the other.
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Not wearing a mask. Not vaccinated.
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Scheduled to get my 1st shot. A nurse friend didn't want a sore arm, so requested to get hers in her butt. I thought a good idea, likely will do the same. Then I noticed they are doing drive up vaccinations in your car. Working on yoga flexibility to get my butt out the driver's window. Hope I don't get arrested! 8)
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miss.a.p1600
They’re still in phase 1 of vaccinations here
Schools? I think a hybrid option would be a good idea so that those who want to stay at home can learn from home and those who want to go in person can go in person.
They should have a choice n not be forced to do it one way or the other.
I agree with this, at least for this school year. Though in most places what they mean by "hybrid" is that each student goes a couple days per week in person and the remaining days remote, which is not great for low income kids whose parents have to work and cannot supervise their education. In FL we've had both options since August and it has worked out pretty well, especially since many of the families who choose remote have the resources to make it work.
The question is how long can schools operate on this dual model. In FL, as the school year has rolled on, increasing percentages of kids have returned to in-person learning. Eventually there will not be enough demand to justify the additional expense. I suspect that we will be back to a full in-person learning model by the beginning of the next school year.
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i like how servers have to wear masks and they’re not talking n spitting all over my food
It might be a good idea to make masks permanent for food service workers. They wear hair coverings and gloves now.
There has been a lot less flu because of the covid precautions.
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miss.a.p1600
They’re still in phase 1 of vaccinations here
Schools? I think a hybrid option would be a good idea so that those who want to stay at home can learn from home and those who want to go in person can go in person.
They should have a choice n not be forced to do it one way or the other.
Teachers should also have a choice, unless they've been vaccinated, especially teachers who are at risk.
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Teachers should also have a choice, unless they've been vaccinated, especially teachers who are at risk.
I agree regarding teachers who are in high risk categories, but not so much for younger teachers with no co-morbidities. The schools have been open here in FL since August and there is zero evidence that young school children are major vectors of transmission. Too many teacher's unions have been using COVID as an excuse to allow teachers to collect a full year's salary for doing next to nothing at a horrible cost to children in terms of permanent educational and psychological damage.
We are permanently damaging a generation of predominantly low income students. Alarming percentages of them are just disappearing altogether, not even bothering to get online. Many others are going through the motions, but their standardized test scores (especially in math) are telling the tale. Kids only have 12 years of school before they reach adulthood. Losing 1/12th of that is crippling for those without the means to make it up outside.
This pandemic has really made it clear who really cares about school kids and who is full of shit. You'll have to excuse me if I don't have much sympathy for a cry baby 26 year old who doesn't want to teach despite his/her extremely low risk AND all the mitigation steps that have been implemented in most schools (mask requirements, dividers, distanced desks, etc.).
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It's not the teachers so much as their UNIONS. A LOT of people are doing things and working in environments that have a much higher risk of Covid transmission than teachers.
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With all the dumbass states lifting mask mandates I fear more surges in the near future. People are WAY too confident right now.
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Eric Stoner
It's not the teachers so much as their UNIONS. A LOT of people are doing things and working in environments that have a much higher risk of Covid transmission than teachers.
Agreed Eric. But we did have small groups of teachers protesting back in August when FL made an in-person learning option a condition of full school funding. And some of them were young. But I do agree, based upon my experience with our local teachers, that most were eager to get back to the classroom.
What saddens me the most is how beholden some places are to the teacher's unions. A solid year later and some of the nation's largest school districts are still closed, causing catastrophic harm to millions of low income children. If not for our Governor's willingness to fight the teacher's unions all the way to the Appellate Courts, we might have been in the same boat. The teacher's unions even named the Governor personally in their court actions in an effort to pressure him to back down, but he did not. As a result, our public school children are now nearly a whole year ahead of many of their counterparts in other states.
I was sitting at the edge of my seat in August and September as the court battles went on, making contingency plans for pulling my kids from public school if the teacher's unions won and they shut back down. Thank goodness I never had to go that route, but for FL's low income students, that would not have even been an option.
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I'm fully vaccinated now but am still wearing a mask in public. It's partly out of feeling like it's responsible to keep modeling good practices to other people (even though I'm sure most anti-maskers are well beyond this) and partly because it's still policy in 99% of the stores here and I don't want to make some employee's day harder.
I wouldn't say I've turned into a germaphobe but I am definitely much less interested in being in a crowd of people and still try to keep several feet back from others. This whole pandemic has just highlighted how gross we as living beings are. If I'm not being paid to be near others bodily fluids, I want nothing to do with them.
Our stupid Dept of Health keeps changing the tiers for vaccines, which is frustrating. The 'essential workers' were supposed to be 2nd in line after healthcare & teachers, and they've been pushed back 3 times now in favor of an age-based model. IMO if you have to be around hundreds of unmasked people, often eating and talking and spewing their droplets everywhere, you should be in the front of the line. Lots of the 55+ who got it are retired and don't HAVE to go anywhere.
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I'm fully vaccinated now but am still wearing a mask in public.
I'm also usually wearing a mask even though I'm vaccinated now. Think it's still somewhat unclear if you still can infect others.. :confused:
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miss.a.p1600
I’d prefer people keep the mask on unless they were vaccinated and/or agree to temp checks and to stay 6ft away.
i like how servers have to wear masks and they’re not talking n spitting all over my food
Wearing masks post pandemic would also be ideal if you have to wait in a doctor office with other sick people or if you’re in an enclosed space like a bus or train or plane
I have to agree. I haven't been sick in a year, and i don't miss getting sick. Covid or no covid, it seems like a lot of health measures would be worth keeping in place. I honestly don't know what I'll do, post-vaccine. Seems nice to be able to pop a mask on in close quarters, like you said.
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Selina M
I'm fully vaccinated now but am still wearing a mask in public. It's partly out of feeling like it's responsible to keep modeling good practices to other people (even though I'm sure most anti-maskers are well beyond this) and partly because it's still policy in 99% of the stores here and I don't want to make some employee's day harder.
I'm not personally worried about catching Corona because when I look at the statistics the odds of me getting it are very low, I've never been worried about it and people are pretty lax with the mask protocol where I live, but I've always worn mine when I'm supposed to mainly out of respect for other people who are worried and maybe have a lot of reasons to be worried(like they're high risk or have someone high risk at home).
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Selina M
I wouldn't say I've turned into a germaphobe but I am definitely much less interested in being in a crowd of people and still try to keep several feet back from others. This whole pandemic has just highlighted how gross we as living beings are. If I'm not being paid to be near others bodily fluids, I want nothing to do with them.
It's crazy because I'm so used to masks and social distancing now that when I watch pre-pandemic videos where I see strangers meeting and hugging I kind of wince, and I'm not a germaphobe at all. The mind really does adapt fast.
Personally though, I love the masks and social distancing and was hoping from the gate that it would change our culture to where people would become paranoid and keep it up after the pandemic fades.
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My Mom got Vaccinated today. Pfizer. She has to go back on the 1st of April for her second shot. At least so far she is not feeling unwell, her arm doesn't even ache, according to her. We'll see if she gets even a little sick from it, I'll keep you updated. I'm pretty good with Vaccines, as well, but this one was steamrolled. So... I'll just let you know how she's doing at the moment. This just happened today, so she could still get a little sick from the shot.
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Do you guys think the J & J is safer than the other 2 ? Im thinking about getting a vacc but still scared of the possible effects down the line.
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I haven't heard of any one vaccine being safer than the others, so you should go with whichever one is available first. The effects of coronavirus are far worse than anything from any of the vaccines. There's close to 100 million doses given so far, and I haven't heard of any severe reactions. With coronavirus, not only have more than 500,000 Americans died from it, there are many more who had the virus and didn't die, but ended up with severe health problems.
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Do you guys think the J & J is safer than the other 2 ? Im thinking about getting a vacc but still scared of the possible effects down the line.
I want J&J since it's the one-shot option. That's likely what I'll get, as they're ramping up production on that one.
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xxxGothBarbie
Do you guys think the J & J is safer than the other 2 ? Im thinking about getting a vacc but still scared of the possible effects down the line.
Just take the one you can get. Whichever one that is. Me, I want the Pfizer or Moderna, two shots be damned. But I'll take the J&J if that's what's offered me. Get vaccinated, for your own good.
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I had Pfizer, the first dose was just Mike Tyson arm for a few days. That was my fault for tensing up. The second one was not painful but got unpleasant from about hour 12-36 after. 99.4 fever, headache, really sore muscles everywhere.
Would absolutely get it again, worth it to not be worrying about every little scratchy throat or headache.