^^^I knew about the brooch and heard she is not nice, but I had no idea about the sheep. What a skank.
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^^^I knew about the brooch and heard she is not nice, but I had no idea about the sheep. What a skank.
She was thrown under the bus to distract from their associations with Prince Andrew and Jimmy Saville. He is a British media mogul and his name is not really known in the USA but he is the European version of Jeffrey Epstein, just about 100 times as bad. He was a marriage counselor for some of the Royals , close friends with them and at some point even had keys to the Palace.
As for the racism associations, I completely believe it. The Royal families are so concerned with their so called 'bloodline'....
Time to abolish the monarchy. Not only the British one but all of them. They are all bad.
Do you have Prince Albert in a can?
Well, let him out!
That is true BUT Princess Di made sure that William and Harry DID know how the other half lived. She had them stand in line at stores and movie theatres ; go to supermarkets and laundromats etc.
The British monarchy is a historical institution that most British want to keep. However , it would not be a bad idea to shake off some of the cobwebs and see it modernized like the Scandinavian monarchies.
While I am sure it was not a bowl of cherries for Harry and Megan there is something about public laundering that just puts me off. Going to Caliphonia and separating from the rest of the family is fine. So is cutting money making deals with Oprah and others. They gotta eat. I also appreciate Harry's sensitivity to the media pressures of being a Royal that affected his mother so much.
Yeah I was thinking like “say the persons name cotdamn it!”
But let’s just say she did reveal a name
That person can just lie (if they did say it) n it would be a he-said-she-said mess no one would believe. It makes her seem “classy” for not exposing a person esp if there is no hardcore proof
He seems like he really is captivated by her. And the press or whoever slick trashing her is only making him more attracted to her as he tries to protect her like how his mother would have wanted protection from the psycho press, etc
I'm sure Princess Diana meant well, but how much can you learn about other people from standing in line at supermarkets and movie theatres, other than how long or short the lines are? The problems many families face are not the amount of time they spend standing in lines, but being able to pay for the food when they get to the register. If the royals want to know how regular people live, they should spend some time with families who live in middle and lower class neighborhoods, including people of different races, ethnicities, and religions. Perhaps if they had spent more time with regular people, who've had to deal with problems like depression and anxiety, they would have had a better understanding of what Meghan was going through, and more willing to help her. Maybe if they spent more time associating with people of color, they wouldn't have been concerned about the skin color of Meghan's baby.
Yeah, eagle, but Diana actually grew up in a middle class family. She DID know how the other half lived. She was a blueblood, but one of her ancestors squandered all the family money.
^^^um she was an aristocrat.
Not when she was a kid. Most of her neighbors had no clue she was a blueblood. Diana wasn't born into luxury the way Charles was. The bloodline might have been there, or she wouldn't have been able to marry Charles, but that's likely something she found out later. Her father (Edward John Spencer, 8th Earl Spencer) was a member of the house of lords. He had a Courtesy Title, but he was mainly just a Soldier. I think he went in right after D-Day, but I can't be sure. Not sure what his occupation was after the war. Pretty solidly middle class.
Yeah, she was an Aristocrat, but good luck cashing in on it (Unless you marry the Prince of Wales).
From:
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertain...r-bowles.html/
Diana was born into an aristocratic family and when her father became an earl in 1975, she was given the title Lady Diana Spencer. Like Camilla Diana’s relatives also worked for the royals as her grandmother, Lady Ruth Fermoy, was a close confidante of the Queen Mother.
According to Biography, Diana never had to worry about finances thanks to her family’s money and her own inheritance. While that exact amount has not been disclosed, several members of her family including her brother Charles, 9th Earl Spencer, are worth upwards of $100 million.
Do you realize that growing up, her neighbors were the Windsors?? This was her home:
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....about as ‘middle class’ as it gets I’d say.
Althorpe house. I wasn't aware she lived in that, so I guess I'm wrong. I still don't know what her father did after the war, the internet is, as far, no help there. I can admit when I'm wrong. I know he was in the House of Lords and had what is called a 'Courtesy Title.' Which means kind of a second class noble.
^^^It’s literally all extremely available on the internet....how do you think we all knew you were wrong?
Well, I'm STILL having trouble finding out what Edward John Spencer did after the war. So evidently not. I know he was in the house of Lords, but that doesn't pay a lot.
5charQuote:
From 1947 to 1950, he served as Aide-de-Camp to His Excellency Lieutenant-General Sir Willoughby Norrie, then Governor of South Australia.[2]
Spencer held the offices of County Councillor for Northamptonshire (1952), High Sheriff of Northamptonshire (1959) and Justice of the Peace for Norfolk (1970).[2] He served as equerry to King George VI (1950–52) and to Queen Elizabeth II (1952–54),[6] and was invested as a Member (fourth class) of the Royal Victorian Order (MVO) in 1954.[7] Prior to 1984, the grades of Lieutenant and Member were classified as Members (fourth class) and Members (fifth class), respectively, but both with the post-nominals MVO. He was known by the courtesy title Viscount Althorp until 1975 when he became the 8th Earl Spencer upon his father's death.[8] He was Member of the House of Lords from 9 June 1975 (the day his father died and he inherited the peerage) until his own death.
Too be fair those estates are money pits, thus why they are all pimped out for weddings and parties now. Lots of aristocrats are cash poor. School and whatnot is usually taken care of by some relative or estate. Been that way for awhile, that’s why a lot of millionaire American heiresses married dukes in the 1920s. Prince Phillip did not have a dime to his name despite being born a prince.
From my excessive reading(most of this stuff is from the kitty Kelly book) I recall that there were money issues and the house was the family’s only real capital, her parents were problematic in many ways. Could be remembering wrong but that is a long ass book lol. The estate made a lot of money after Diana’s death.
^^^I heard in a podcast that their mother was the one with the real money since the father was cash poor.
Yeah that sounds right, I believe they often fought because he would be off spending her money on his “hobbies”
Just my blunt opinion-
I really think Prince Harry is in the driver's seat for most of this scandal. He's admitted how much his mother's short and star-crossed life impacted him as a person, and he's reaping the benefits of his current situation- a somewhat carefree life with an independent-minded woman who was maturated when he met her.
I'm not linking to anything regarding Jimmy Saville (it's nightmare fuel) but I'd totally agree both the Royals and Megan & Harry are playing up these "fluff" scandals for publicity. There's an old American saying about no such thing as bad publicity for anything when you come down to it. (In this case, promoting projects and advertising a tourist trap, Buckingham Palace.)
Class works differently in the UK than in the USA. Even if you make 20.000/year, if you are born in a 'bloodline'/related to it you are still considered part of the upper class in the UK and you get a certain amount of prestige. If you come from a poor background and work yourself up to 500.000/year, it doesn't matter, you are not and never will be upper class. Thats called upper middle class and a normal person caps out there, unless you marry into the bloodline.
Diana was part of the upper class and was pretty much pushed into marrying into the Royal Family, at a very young age. She was never happy there and not liked by the members of the family because she spoke her mind and acted like a normal human being. But, that is why the people of the UK adored her.
I think Harry still has a lot of trauma from his mothers' death. Everyone knows the images of him and William walking by their mothers' casket together. Her death was a heartbreaking tragedy. I think William has a lot of trauma too, he just deals differently with it. I have a feeling he wanted out for a long time.
I'm not going to re-post rumors about Megan Markle (not needed, & they are mean-spirited) but like I said, Harry has probably been planning this sort of exit from royal life for a long time. If he hadn't chose someone as audacious as Megan, he'd still be bailing on the life planned out for him.
I really feel for him. He was born into a fishbowl and seems like a normal human.
I didn't watch the interview and I really don't get the obsession with the Royal family. Especially here in America those are not my people lol. I don't have a queen or a prince so I don't care what they're doing. I still remember when each of those princes got married and it was broadcast on like every TV station here. I didn't get the appeal then and I still don't.