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Originally Posted by
eagle2
Nearly all Covid-related deaths in the U.S. are people who have not yet been vaccinated, meaning that fatal cases of the virus are "at this point entirely preventable" due to the efficacy of the shots, according to CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky.
Pulling from government data, AP News confirmed these findings in a Thursday analysis, which found that, out of the 853,000 people hospitalized throughout the U.S. in May, just 1,200 of them were vaccinated, a proportion that corresponds to roughly 0.1%.
https://www.salon.com/2021/06/25/a-n...-unvaccinated/
If you look at the numbers the risk of death from getting the vaccine for those 30 and Under is 3 out of 200,000. That's right. Roughly 450 people have died "from " the vaccine in the Under 30 Age Group or are SUSPECTED of dying from the vaccine. Compared to the health consequences of not getting vaccinated for oneself and others it looks to be a no-brainer.
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Please show your sources.
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Eric Stoner
He WAS the ramrod for Operation Warp Speed which gave us the vaccine in months when Fauci et.al were saying it would take YEARS !
Exactly, lol. The Trump Administration removed administrative barriers for vaccine development and production, secured additional financing for vaccine manufacturing and even enlisted the military to assist in a public/private partnership. It also put in place the vaccine distribution channels to the states and the initial purchase agreements with the drug manufacturers.
Then, after the food was already cooked and in the serving trays and the banquet tables were almost completely set, Biden showed, put the last two forks down on the banquet table, and is seen by those who haven't been paying attention as the one who put together the whole shindig. It's downright comical. ;D
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eagle2
Please show your sources.
Good question. The numbers come from the CDC as of June 10. It is part of the Vaccine Adverse Reporting System
( VAERS ). But, BUT those numbers and others have been used in sloppy ways by Tucker Carlson and others. ( Naughty Tucker ! Bad boy ! ). 3,362 people have died AFTER getting fully vaxed. But , from what ? Covid ? A reaction to the vaccine ? Something totally unrelated ? There have been 789 total cases of reported myocarditis and pericarditis in people who were vaccinated ACROSS ALL AGE GROUPS. 226 of those were people Under 30. How many died from a heart issue caused by the vaccine ? I've only seen a few anecdotal reports.
The death rate I cited is correct : 3,362 out of roughly 200 million people who have been vaccinated BUT links for those deaths to the vaccine are tenuous to put it mildly and I never intended to say anything different. It is almost the mirror image of how the Covid death rate has been calculated i.e. if you died while testing positive for the virus then you "died from Covid".
The Anti-Vaxxers in this country who mostly use junk science btw, are off base imho in trying to scare people not to get vaccinated. Not without much better numbers and even then the odds are way in favor of getting vaxxed.
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I know when I wear a mask I get a lot of snot and drool all over it. Anyone else?
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LoveyD
I know when I wear a mask I get a lot of snot and drool all over it. Anyone else?
Yup, still gotta wear that shit when I take the bus, even sometimes I am the ONLY passenger on the bus during my ride. Lol. As soon as I step off of the bus, I can't wait to get that shit off my face and breathe freely. When I get home and glance at it one time before tossing it in the hamper, I look at the dirt and all on it and cringe. Especially if I'm all gross and sweaty.
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Sneezing inside a mask is the worst!
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rickdugan
Exactly, lol. The Trump Administration removed administrative barriers for vaccine development and production, secured additional financing for vaccine manufacturing and even enlisted the military to assist in a public/private partnership. It also put in place the vaccine distribution channels to the states and the initial purchase agreements with the drug manufacturers.
Then, after the food was already cooked and in the serving trays and the banquet tables were almost completely set, Biden showed, put the last two forks down on the banquet table, and is seen by those who haven't been paying attention as the one who put together the whole shindig. It's downright comical. ;D
What specific administrative barriers were removed? Do you really think Trump did anything more than sign papers that were put in front of him?
The distribution process was a mess when President Biden took office. When Trump left, less than 1 million shots were being given in a day. Biden got that up to 4 million.
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Originally Posted by
eagle2
What specific administrative barriers were removed? Do you really think Trump did anything more than sign papers that were put in front of him?
The distribution process was a mess when President Biden took office. When Trump left, less than 1 million shots were being given in a day. Biden got that up to 4 million.
No. No. No. Sorry Eagle. Every dispassionate observer ( you won't find any on CNN , MSNBC ,in the Times or WaPo ) gives Trump good grades for getting Warp Speed off the ground AND that Trump's program saved AT LEAST six months and probably a year or more in developing vaccines. When Biden took over the vaccines had already been developed and were going into arms across the country. Biden took all the credit for which I do NOT fault him. It would have been nice if he acknowledged Trump's contribution but his wounds were still raw from the debates and the way Trump went after Hunter and Joe's senility. All new Presidents glom the credit for good things that happen AFTER they take office for which they had little to nothing to do with. Biden was no different.
Those , like you , that want to deny Trump any credit whatsoever focus exclusively on the Pfizer vaccine. It is TRUE that Pfizer partnered with a German company and was working on a vaccine at least two months before Operation Warp Speed( let's call it "OWS "). However , thanks to OWS Pfizer's vaccine was granted Emergency Use Authorization without having jumped through all the usual FDA hoops. They did show it was safe and effective ( 90%) which is the minimum standard. They ALSO got a $2 billion contract from the U.S. gov't to provide 100 million doses.
According to the NIH Director, Francis Collins ( Fauci's boss btw ) Trump and OWS deserve a LOT of credit for the rapidity with which the vaccines were developed , Manufactured and DISTRIBUTED. When Biden claimed that there was no supply of vaccine when he took office he should have been awarded Four Pinocchios by the Washington Post.
If anyone glommed undeserved credit for vaccine development and distribution it was FAUCI !He told CNN in March, 2021 that Operation Warp Speed was the " best decision I've ever made " !! That is outrageously false. OWS occurred despite Fauci's objections. Let's not forget it was Fauci and other bureaucratic nitwits at the CDC who cost us valuable weeks on approving testing for Covid. What Fauci later called a "glitch" was in fact the CDC's insistence that ONLY their test be used to check for Covid. Anyway, Fauci's pronouncements and predictions about vaccines went from cautiously pessimistic ("over a year ") to gradual and grudging acceptance that the program was a success. Btw Eagle , you were RIGHT . It was NOT Fauci who said it would take years for a vaccine. It was that dipshit Doctor Jha from Brown University who hasn't treated a single patient in decades. And he wasn't alone.
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I'm trying to think of new uses for my mask now that we don't need to wear them as much. Maybe as a makeshift maxi pad?
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^Or an unwashed worn bra with the elastic stretched out
Nothing like the smell of Chinese factory, gym sweat, and titty residue
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What if we used them as vag sweat rags? I don't know about you guys, but my vagina gets super sweaty and smelly when I work out. The masks could sop some of that up, no?
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LoveyD
I'm trying to think of new uses for my mask now that we don't need to wear them as much. Maybe as a makeshift maxi pad?
I strongly suggest keeping them in reserve, just in case coronavirus mutates into something that the current vaccines don't protect against. I'll probably continue to wear a mask when I go into a crowded store.
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JenniferNorth
What if we used them as vag sweat rags? I don't know about you guys, but my vagina gets super sweaty and smelly when I work out. The masks could sop some of that up, no?
That's a great idea! I will definitely set some aside as eagle suggested, but yeah, I could also use a post-workout vagina rag too.
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Originally Posted by
Eric Stoner
No. No. No. Sorry Eagle. Every dispassionate observer ( you won't find any on CNN , MSNBC ,in the Times or WaPo ) gives Trump good grades for getting Warp Speed off the ground AND that Trump's program saved AT LEAST six months and probably a year or more in developing vaccines. When Biden took over the vaccines had already been developed and were going into arms across the country. Biden took all the credit for which I do NOT fault him. It would have been nice if he acknowledged Trump's contribution but his wounds were still raw from the debates and the way Trump went after Hunter and Joe's senility. All new Presidents glom the credit for good things that happen AFTER they take office for which they had little to nothing to do with. Biden was no different.
Those , like you , that want to deny Trump any credit whatsoever focus exclusively on the Pfizer vaccine. It is TRUE that Pfizer partnered with a German company and was working on a vaccine at least two months before Operation Warp Speed( let's call it "OWS "). However , thanks to OWS Pfizer's vaccine was granted Emergency Use Authorization without having jumped through all the usual FDA hoops. They did show it was safe and effective ( 90%) which is the minimum standard. They ALSO got a $2 billion contract from the U.S. gov't to provide 100 million doses.
According to the NIH Director, Francis Collins ( Fauci's boss btw ) Trump and OWS deserve a LOT of credit for the rapidity with which the vaccines were developed , Manufactured and DISTRIBUTED. When Biden claimed that there was no supply of vaccine when he took office he should have been awarded Four Pinocchios by the Washington Post.
If anyone glommed undeserved credit for vaccine development and distribution it was FAUCI !He told CNN in March, 2021 that Operation Warp Speed was the " best decision I've ever made " !! That is outrageously false. OWS occurred despite Fauci's objections. Let's not forget it was Fauci and other bureaucratic nitwits at the CDC who cost us valuable weeks on approving testing for Covid. What Fauci later called a "glitch" was in fact the CDC's insistence that ONLY their test be used to check for Covid. Anyway, Fauci's pronouncements and predictions about vaccines went from cautiously pessimistic ("over a year ") to gradual and grudging acceptance that the program was a success. Btw Eagle , you were RIGHT . It was NOT Fauci who said it would take years for a vaccine. It was that dipshit Doctor Jha from Brown University who hasn't treated a single patient in decades. And he wasn't alone.
The people who are responsible for the vaccines are the scientists who developed the mRNA technology used for the vaccines and the scientists who developed the vaccines. mRNA technology was developed before Trump even became president. DARPA first launched a biotech research program in 2010 to develop vaccines using this new technology for the military. In 2013 DARPA awarded a $25 million grant to Moderna to develop the technology, but you didn't hear Obama trying to take credit for the vaccines every other day. The pandemic was declared a national health emergency, so why would these vaccines not be approved for emergency funding or emergency approval? The British government gave approval for emergency use of the Pfizer vaccine before the US government did.
As far as distribution, Trump never got past 1 million doses a day. At that pace, it would have taken close to two years to get everyone vaccinated. Pfizer offered Trump the chance to buy an additional 100 million doses and Trump turned them down, despite knowing we would need 400 or 500 million doses to get everyone vaccinated, who wanted it. After Biden took office, he took up Pfizer's offer to buy those 100 million doses. Under President Biden, the number of doses given each day increased from less than one million to more than four million. Trump did practically nothing to encourage people to take the vaccine. He even got his shot secretly, because he didn't want to offend any of his supporters who are anti-vax, and there are quite a few of them. Biden, Obama, Bush, and Clinton all got their shots publicly to show people the vaccines are safe.
If you are going to try and give Trump credit for the development of the vaccine, please state what he did, other than sign some pieces of paper that were put in front of him.
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LoveyD
That's a great idea! I will definitely set some aside as eagle suggested, but yeah, I could also use a post-workout vagina rag too.
^You ladies are the best!
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eagle2
I strongly suggest keeping them in reserve, just in case coronavirus mutates into something that the current vaccines don't protect against. I'll probably continue to wear a mask when I go into a crowded store.
I’ve noticed more people masking up again in stores. Maybe because of the delta variant? Unless the CDC advises to wear masks, I won’t be masking up anytime soon. I was one of the last people to stop wearing masks too. If I’m working at strip club (fully vaccinated) I’m already exposed to everything, I don’t see how masking up in the grocery store will benefit me. I have a box of disposable mask in my car just in case I’m asked to mask up. I’ll do whatever the CDC says. I understand we have to do what benefits the greater good, but I seriously hope the vaccines protect against new variants for awhile and we don’t have to mask up again. The culture war over masks was the dumbest thing ever. I really hope the vaccine work for awhile.
Take your vitamin D
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Re: If you're fully Vaccinated, you can stop wearing a MASK!!
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Originally Posted by
eagle2
The people who are responsible for the vaccines are the scientists who developed the mRNA technology used for the vaccines and the scientists who developed the vaccines. mRNA technology was developed before Trump even became president. DARPA first launched a biotech research program in 2010 to develop vaccines using this new technology for the military. In 2013 DARPA awarded a $25 million grant to Moderna to develop the technology, but you didn't hear Obama trying to take credit for the vaccines every other day. The pandemic was declared a national health emergency, so why would these vaccines not be approved for emergency funding or emergency approval? The British government gave approval for emergency use of the Pfizer vaccine before the US government did.
As far as distribution, Trump never got past 1 million doses a day. At that pace, it would have taken close to two years to get everyone vaccinated. Pfizer offered Trump the chance to buy an additional 100 million doses and Trump turned them down, despite knowing we would need 400 or 500 million doses to get everyone vaccinated, who wanted it. After Biden took office, he took up Pfizer's offer to buy those 100 million doses. Under President Biden, the number of doses given each day increased from less than one million to more than four million. Trump did practically nothing to encourage people to take the vaccine. He even got his shot secretly, because he didn't want to offend any of his supporters who are anti-vax, and there are quite a few of them. Biden, Obama, Bush, and Clinton all got their shots publicly to show people the vaccines are safe.
If you are going to try and give Trump credit for the development of the vaccine, please state what he did, other than sign some pieces of paper that were put in front of him.
What does Biden do ; what has he done other than sign whatever is put in front of him ?
You obviously want to deny Trump any credit whatsoever and it's obviously because of your irrational hatred for the man. If he cured cancer tomorrow at his own expense and then gave the cure to the world gratis you would deny him any credit. What Trump did and didn't do are matters of public record. Those who have taken a rational look at the record give Trump at least some credit for the speed with which the vaccine was developed and distributed. And have observed that Biden simply distributed cookies (i.e. the vaccines - please note the PLURAL ) that were already baked and delivered BEFORE he took office. His goal was 100 million doses by his first 90 days. How many doses had been administered when Biden took office ? What was the vaccination rate under Biden ? The answers are over 10 million and about 1 million per day.
So be it. I'm through arguing with you. Have an awesome day.
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Eric Stoner
What does Biden do ; what has he done other than sign whatever is put in front of him ?
You obviously want to deny Trump any credit whatsoever and it's obviously because of your irrational hatred for the man. If he cured cancer tomorrow at his own expense and then gave the cure to the world gratis you would deny him any credit. What Trump did and didn't do are matters of public record. Those who have taken a rational look at the record give Trump at least some credit for the speed with which the vaccine was developed and distributed. And have observed that Biden simply distributed cookies (i.e. the vaccines - please note the PLURAL ) that were already baked and delivered BEFORE he took office. His goal was 100 million doses by his first 90 days. How many doses had been administered when Biden took office ? What was the vaccination rate under Biden ? The answers are over 10 million and about 1 million per day.
So be it. I'm through arguing with you. Have an awesome day.
Considering you come to this forum for sex workers (without being one) and constantly pick fights, and then change goal posts or don't cite sources worth a damn, why do you even come here in the first place? The strippers, cam girls and escorts who the forum is made for don't want you here because you only come here to spread your right-wing political beliefs and stir up shit.
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ATTENTION. They want free attention. There must be things they can do outside of here that will get them the attention they so badly needed. I have them on mute :)
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RaeRae
Considering you come to this forum for sex workers (without being one) and constantly pick fights, and then change goal posts or don't cite sources worth a damn, why do you even come here in the first place? The strippers, cam girls and escorts who the forum is made for don't want you here because you only come here to spread your right-wing political beliefs and stir up shit.
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RaeRae
Considering you come to this forum for sex workers (without being one) and constantly pick fights, and then change goal posts or don't cite sources worth a damn, why do you even come here in the first place? The strippers, cam girls and escorts who the forum is made for don't want you here because you only come here to spread your right-wing political beliefs and stir up shit.
Bless your heart. Have a great day.
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Eric Stoner
You obviously want to deny Trump any credit whatsoever and it's obviously because of your irrational hatred for the man.
What's irrational is the way you continue to praise and defend Trump after all of the horrific things he's said and done over the past five years. You can't even bring yourself to acknowledge that he seriously suggested injecting disinfectant to cure covid, even after being shown a video of him saying that. If you were one of the people who was being targeted by Trump, or one of the people harmed by his cruel actions and policies, you would feel very differently.
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eagle2
What's irrational is the way you continue to praise and defend Trump after all of the horrific things he's said and done over the past five years. You can't even bring yourself to acknowledge that he seriously suggested injecting disinfectant to cure covid, even after being shown a video of him saying that. If you were one of the people who was being targeted by Trump, or one of the people harmed by his cruel actions and policies, you would feel very differently.
Lie down and apply a cool compress. And then tell me one thing that has gotten better under Senile Joe BECAUSE of Senile Joe and his puppeteers.
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Re: If you're fully Vaccinated, you can stop wearing a MASK!!
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Originally Posted by
LoveyD
I'm trying to think of new uses for my mask now that we don't need to wear them as much. Maybe as a makeshift maxi pad?
My gf used it as an eye mask from the sun this weekend.
Also, I’m no longer wearing masks unless the Uber driver asks me to (I ask them if it’s ok if I don’t wear it since I’m vax), or at an airport, or somewhere that you MUST. Ny has dropped all Covid restrictions and I’m vaccinated and recovered from Covid.