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Merging Cam work with a Mainstream Brand
Has anyone managed to cam while also having a brand on a mainstream (specifically Youtube) platform? Even more specifically, are there any cam performers who have a monetized non-SW channel? If so, would you mind sharing about your experiences?
For example, being a cam performer but also a mainstream fitness influencer.
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EmilyBlack used to do gaming clips before she got big with OF. I follow some creators on IG that do fitness/fashion with OF. I feel like the general idea has tamed a bit since 2020 and people are being more accepting of adult creators.
Right now, I don’t think there is anyone big in the creation community that still does camming, because the big $ don’t come from live shows. You could say Amouranth does streaming, but it’s different, cause her main goal is still to get subscribers on content platforms (Onlyfans and Fansly).
My general idea is that once you manage to sustain yourself from content creation, regardless of the subject (can be Patreon for example or ads) you step aside from live interaction with users.
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euro_princess
Right now, I don’t think there is anyone big in the creation community that still does camming
All great points. You're totally right, once you get big in content the fan interaction can (and kind of has to) be less. What I meant to ask is if there is anyone who cammed or sold content WHILE building a mainstream brand as well. I agree that the transition from mainstream to OF is fairly common by now. These creators show up to OF with a fanbase and bank.
But building a mainstream brand from scratch while also camming or selling content...
I can think of one: https://www.youtube.com/c/IntelexualMedia
She is kind of a branding genius. I think she's leaving OF now and focusing on Twitch. I believe she began as a cam performer way back and was working on her YT then, too. It can be helpful to see examples like this. She has branded both her SW and her mainstream brand around an offshoot of her own name. Which is brilliant. But I wonder if there is a way to cam low key as possible under one name while building mainstream with another? That seems like a recipe for disaster. Lol.
I know this is a niche thread, but it's the marketing angle I'm curious about.
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It's slow going, because of my self sabotage old beliefs.
but my YouTube channels switched from cam coaching to personal finance and debt free journey.
That switch has kept me in the YouTube partner program. Glad I did it so I can add in my mainstream affiliate links and network marketing companies plus financial coach business.
Now with college for my major in accounting and finance I will have to more to build the channel and brand.
You can go with fitness main content then a series of camming and keep it at that. Honestly one or two videos bring in your cam community to support the channel and then you will have a solid community for fitness.
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goddessgalore
All great points. You're totally right, once you get big in content the fan interaction can (and kind of has to) be less. What I meant to ask is if there is anyone who cammed or sold content WHILE building a mainstream brand as well. I agree that the transition from mainstream to OF is fairly common by now. These creators show up to OF with a fanbase and bank.
But building a mainstream brand from scratch while also camming or selling content...
I can think of one:
https://www.youtube.com/c/IntelexualMedia
She is kind of a branding genius. I think she's leaving OF now and focusing on Twitch. I believe she began as a cam performer way back and was working on her YT then, too. It can be helpful to see examples like this. She has branded both her SW and her mainstream brand around an offshoot of her own name. Which is brilliant. But I wonder if there is a way to cam low key as possible under one name while building mainstream with another? That seems like a recipe for disaster. Lol.
I know this is a niche thread, but it's the marketing angle I'm curious about.
I’m in the process of building a brand for food blogging, so I think is def possible if your non SW project is actually your hobby. That being said, def have thick skin, people will tear you apart for any reason, even more when you are doing adult content in parallel. The principle of marketing kinda stays the same, post, be up to date with the trends, find your best platform, know your content and what shines for your brand (pictures, vlogging, long clips, short clips, tutorials, transitions). Thankfully, now we have a lot of platforms to choose from and experiment with.
My biggest advice would be not to let the adult stigma poison your passion, for which you’re trying to build a brand.
EDIT: That being said, I know 2 creators that are focusing on building a SFW branding. One is wettmelons (she does YouTube and tiktoks with travel, mostly vlogging) and the other one is poetrising (she has a podcast and generally does lifestyle and vlogs). WettMelons had a big following from Pornhub. I’m not sure about Astro’s beggings.
https://youtube.com/c/WettMelons
https://www.behindtheringlight.com/astro
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minniesoporno
It's slow going, because of my self sabotage old beliefs.
but my YouTube channels switched from cam coaching to personal finance and debt free journey.
That switch has kept me in the YouTube partner program. Glad I did it so I can add in my mainstream affiliate links and network marketing companies plus financial coach business.
Now with college for my major in accounting and finance I will have to more to build the channel and brand.
You can go with fitness main content then a series of camming and keep it at that. Honestly one or two videos bring in your cam community to support the channel and then you will have a solid community for fitness.
OMG. This. First off, that's AMAZING! Congrats! My heart lit up when I read your post. I don't feel like we hear about this enough. I didn't even know if I'd be able to monetize on YT if I had any cam content at all! And you're actually right that it would bring in the cam community, so being somewhat open about it would be helpful. Also, representation.
Do the cam video hours count towards your overall watch time? Sounds like maybe not. Also, did you find that it complicated things in terms of sponsors? Sounds like you've found ways around all of that. Also, how did you handle the name/persona/branding thing? Lot's of questions!
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euro_princess
I’m in the process of building a brand for food blogging, so I think is def possible if your non SW project is actually your hobby. That being said, def have thick skin, people will tear you apart for any reason, even more when you are doing adult content in parallel. The principle of marketing kinda stays the same, post, be up to date with the trends, find your best platform, know your content and what shines for your brand (pictures, vlogging, long clips, short clips, tutorials, transitions). Thankfully, now we have a lot of platforms to choose from and experiment with.
My biggest advice would be not to let the adult stigma poison your passion, for which you’re trying to build a brand.
You have given me so many wise words since I joined this forum! Thank you. Yes, there is definitely some internalized stigma at play here.
That is so cool that you're into food blogging! There is so much potential there for brand building. So then, same question for you--how do you navigate your branding between both worlds? Tie them together, keep them apart, or a light blend? I definitely wouldn't want my cam stuff to be really easily found by anyone who lands on my channel, but I also don't want to feel like I'm hiding anything.
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minniesoporno
It's slow going, because of my self sabotage old beliefs.
but my YouTube channels switched from cam coaching to personal finance and debt free journey.
That switch has kept me in the YouTube partner program. Glad I did it so I can add in my mainstream affiliate links and network marketing companies plus financial coach business.
Now with college for my major in accounting and finance I will have to more to build the channel and brand.
You can go with fitness main content then a series of camming and keep it at that. Honestly one or two videos bring in your cam community to support the channel and then you will have a solid community for fitness.
Just now saw your signature. Pretty much answers my questions Lol. Sorry. Funny enough--I actually came across your channel before! I'm glad you have been successful in all spaces :)
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euro_princess
EDIT: That being said, I know 2 creators that are focusing on building a SFW branding. One is wettmelons (she does YouTube and tiktoks with travel, mostly vlogging) and the other one is poetrising (she has a podcast and generally does lifestyle and vlogs). WettMelons had a big following from Pornhub. I’m not sure about Astro’s beggings.
https://youtube.com/c/WettMelons
https://www.behindtheringlight.com/astro
Checking them out now! Thank you for sharing!
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I've been trying for 6 years to crack the "YouTube code", with zero luck.
My channel started out as very vanilla. I filmed touristy areas, and then morphed into survival prepping.
Only men subscribed, and would pester me to meet.
I also linked it to my vanilla Instagram, where my inbox would fill up with guys wanting to meet.::)
I watch lots of channels where the host gets hundreds of dollars in their superchat and patreon.
They talk about prepping, current news, even gossip.
It appears that my target audience is men.
Wish I could figure out something ( product) to sell them.:-\
I gave up, and started promoting my fan site/pso, etc.
But the response I got was that they don't pay, and want free sex talk, etc.
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Dreamqueen
I've been trying for 6 years to crack the "YouTube code", with zero luck.
My channel started out as very vanilla. I filmed touristy areas, and then morphed into survival prepping.
Only men subscribed, and would pester me to meet.
I also linked it to my vanilla Instagram, where my inbox would fill up with guys wanting to meet.::)
I watch lots of channels where the host gets hundreds of dollars in their superchat and patreon.
They talk about prepping, current news, even gossip.
It appears that my target audience is men.
Wish I could figure out something ( product) to sell them.:-\
I gave up, and started promoting my fan site/pso, etc.
But the response I got was that they don't pay, and want free sex talk, etc.
:( Sometimes we don't call the industry, but the industry calls us! Lol. I saw a meme somewhere that said something like "How I know I'm cute and not hot" and she showed her demographic analytics and it was 90% women. It made me laugh but I think there's a lot more to it than that. The horny guys will always be there, even for the creators who have a largely female audience. The algorithm though...that one seems to be a mystery.
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goddessgalore
:( Sometimes we don't call the industry, but the industry calls us! Lol. I saw a meme somewhere that said something like "How I know I'm cute and not hot" and she showed her demographic analytics and it was 90% women. It made me laugh but I think there's a lot more to it than that. The horny guys will always be there, even for the creators who have a largely female audience. The algorithm though...that one seems to be a mystery.
Oh, yes, I hear ya on that.
One ex stripper who's audience is women is constantly bitching how men don't approach her anymore.
She's 56, and a psychic.
I want to shout, "Shut up and take your $1000 (per hour) stream and be grateful!"
She turns down readings ( at $300 an hour) because she's just not in the mood. Okay.
I'm older than she is, but I never left sex work, and I think it bleeds through.
The saying, "What you are screams so loudly, I can't hear what you're saying."
The algorithm seems to push anything 'celebrity' related.
Oh well.
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OMG. This. First off, that's AMAZING! Congrats! My heart lit up when I read your post. I don't feel like we hear about this enough. I didn't even know if I'd be able to monetize on YT if I had any cam content at all! And you're actually right that it would bring in the cam community, so being somewhat open about it would be helpful. Also, representation.
Do the cam video hours count towards your overall watch time? Sounds like maybe not. Also, did you find that it complicated things in terms of sponsors? Sounds like you've found ways around all of that. Also, how did you handle the name/persona/branding thing? Lot's of questions!
So my cam videos become limited on youtube or I turn off monetization on those videos.
I don't worry about sponsors, I focus on bringing leads and clients to my affiliate offers and coaching packages.
I keep my Youtube for education purposes for my entrepreneurship community. Which expands to a lot of people wanting to have a business or side hustle. if I Want to have more in depth with cam model content it's building a blog, twitter. or adult focused fan site platform. but I find the content management on fan sites to be extremely annoying to work with because they still follow 2257 rules. when I am not even naked in those videos.
I've been looking to build a learning content site. my signature link provides a business centre that I can create one. i've been with them for years they know I want to create business content and less NSFW content and go more mainstream.
I think I can do educational cam content with my wistia account. I know there is other ways to host video streaming content since old school websites still operate that way.
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Just now saw your signature. Pretty much answers my questions Lol. Sorry. Funny enough--I actually came across your channel before! I'm glad you have been successful in all spaces :)
Great, those weekly webinars will answer a lot of your questions for going mainstream.
Plus they are a fantastic business community. I've been with them since 2015.
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goddessgalore
OMG. This. First off, that's AMAZING! Congrats! My heart lit up when I read your post. I don't feel like we hear about this enough. I didn't even know if I'd be able to monetize on YT if I had any cam content at all! And you're actually right that it would bring in the cam community, so being somewhat open about it would be helpful. Also, representation.
Do the cam video hours count towards your overall watch time? Sounds like maybe not. Also, did you find that it complicated things in terms of sponsors? Sounds like you've found ways around all of that. Also, how did you handle the name/persona/branding thing? Lot's of questions!
I definitely should make a Youtube video with all of your questions <3
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goddessgalore
You have given me so many wise words since I joined this forum! Thank you. Yes, there is definitely some internalized stigma at play here.
That is so cool that you're into food blogging! There is so much potential there for brand building. So then, same question for you--how do you navigate your branding between both worlds? Tie them together, keep them apart, or a light blend? I definitely wouldn't want my cam stuff to be really easily found by anyone who lands on my channel, but I also don't want to feel like I'm hiding anything.
I think it would be very hard to hide your NSFW persona from your other socials (unless you plan to do no face adult content and never show anything above the neck, not even your lips). The way I’m incorporating it is by just having the OF link with the rest. Yeah, I cook, but I also get naked, so if they wanna see the 18+ part, there is that option. That’s it! At this point, I can’t escape my camming past, nor my OF present, so I’m trying to make peace with it. No matter how big I’ll get in a different niche, I’ll always be known as the “naked girl”.
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minniesoporno
I definitely should make a Youtube video with all of your questions <3
That would be amazing! Everything you've shared here has been helpful.
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euro_princess
I think it would be very hard to hide your NSFW persona from your other socials (unless you plan to do no face adult content and never show anything above the neck, not even your lips). The way I’m incorporating it is by just having the OF link with the rest. Yeah, I cook, but I also get naked, so if they wanna see the 18+ part, there is that option. That’s it! At this point, I can’t escape my camming past, nor my OF present, so I’m trying to make peace with it. No matter how big I’ll get in a different niche, I’ll always be known as the “naked girl”.
Yes. After more thought, this is how I'm planning to go. I was going to go the faceless creator route, but building a brand of any type takes so much time and effort that being a faceless creator feels too limiting for the effort it will still take to build an audience.
I haven't really started camming yet so I will begin non-nude and be VERY selective of what I do put out. Not that it eliminates the stigma, just streaming on a cam site brings that. But it will give me a bit of flexibility with what direction to go as I build. Let's see how it goes. Worst case scenario I'm another hot girl on the internet with her bills paid. LOL.
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Yes. After more thought, this is how I'm planning to go. I was going to go the faceless creator route, but building a brand of any type takes so much time and effort that being a faceless creator feels too limiting for the effort it will still take to build an audience.
I haven't really started camming yet so I will begin non-nude and be VERY selective of what I do put out. Not that it eliminates the stigma, just streaming on a cam site brings that. But it will give me a bit of flexibility with what direction to go as I build. Let's see how it goes. Worst case scenario I'm another hot girl on the internet with her bills paid. LOL.
This stigma thing becomes irrelevant, once you realize that 99.99% of the people's oppinions don't pay your bills. And more important, it's oppinions from people you wouldn't go to ask for advice, or feel inspired about them whatsoever. Inspiring people are usually supportive and mind their business, they are busy making their own money and dealing with their own haters, they don't have time to hate on you :))))Kim Kardashian became no.1 icon, after the whole planet saw her sucking a dick. That didn't stop her go out there and pose shoulder to shoulder with presidents and other important personalities, she's constantly a source of "I don't give a fuck" and also uses hating in her advance (always drops bad photoshop pictures, to create outrage and get people to talk about her). You'd say she made billion off stigma, at this point :)))
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goddessgalore
Yes. After more thought, this is how I'm planning to go. I was going to go the faceless creator route, but building a brand of any type takes so much time and effort that being a faceless creator feels too limiting for the effort it will still take to build an audience.
I haven't really started camming yet so I will begin non-nude and be VERY selective of what I do put out. Not that it eliminates the stigma, just streaming on a cam site brings that. But it will give me a bit of flexibility with what direction to go as I build. Let's see how it goes. Worst case scenario I'm another hot girl on the internet with her bills paid. LOL.
It might seem limiting, but it’s actually not. Look at MidwestEmma, she’s 0.01% (over 150K per month) and doesn’t show her face.
Most girls do no face so they can keep their privacy (stalkers, protecting their kids, family), as hate will come no matter what. As long as you’re a woman on the internet, you’ll get bullied by grownup men. Period!
You do makeup? You wear too much makeup.
You do fashion? You’re superficial
You’re into traveling? You must be an escort
You cook? Yeah, but men cook better.
You’re a stay at home mom? You’re a gold digger taking advantage of her husband.
You garden? Your plants aren’t growing enough.
So on and forth.
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euro_princess
It might seem limiting, but it’s actually not. Look at MidwestEmma, she’s 0.01% (over 150K per month) and doesn’t show her face.
Most girls do no face so they can keep their privacy (stalkers, protecting their kids, family), as hate will come no matter what. As long as you’re a woman on the internet, you’ll get bullied by grownup men. Period!
You do makeup? You wear too much makeup.
You do fashion? You’re superficial
You’re into traveling? You must be an escort
You cook? Yeah, but men cook better.
You’re a stay at home mom? You’re a gold digger taking advantage of her husband.
You garden? Your plants aren’t growing enough.
So on and forth.
Yes, true. But I feel like it's either you show kitty or show face. I don't really want to do anything explicit because it's just not my style. Every time I've recorded something like that and have gone to edit it I just cringe. Even with my face not in it. Although I am ALL for privacy. It's why I've sat out on camming this long. In a perfect world I wouldn't have to be on the internet at all!
When I said it feels limiting I guess I meant in terms of what types of content I can create and my marketing avenues. But on 2nd thought, MWE also has/had a faceless YT channel giving OF advice that helped her build her name. So I guess it's more about getting creative. Hm. Yeah, I'm definitely at a slight analysis paralysis here!
It takes time to make money with an OF. I kinda just want to start making money now and then determine what direction I want to go. I am on NF without my face, so there's that. But for whatever reason the calls feel even more intimate to me than cam. Maybe bc I'm not a phone person in the first place. I just feel brain fried after some calls. I burn out quickly with PSO and then find I'm not as consistent.
*Edit: You're not wrong. I could continue with NF and build faceless OF instead of camming, or get more into selling audio. I keep looping between all of these options! Lol
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It’s going to be hard on you to cam without having a domme persona or knowing what to do being non nude, not gonna lie.
Also, keep in mind the world doesn’t care what you do (show face, show pussy, show feet etc), we’re all SW in their eyes. So even if you do non nude on cam or OF, people will see no difference between you and a pornstar. In their eyes, we’re all hoes, I’m afraid. So at the end of the day, do what you are comfortable with it and what doesn’t eat you alive.
I did cam, but looking back, I put my body through so much, just so I can stay on top. Was it worth it? On the short term, yes. On the long term? Hell no, I was unhappy and tired. It has taken me almost 2 years to wipe the damage. It might sound dramatic, but you get my point. I don’t regret it, I just wish I had other options in SW and truth is, 12 years ago there weren’t many. So choose wisely and think on the long run. Money come and go and if you don’t have an urgency, there is no point to pick the short stick.
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euro_princess
It’s going to be hard on you to cam without having a domme persona or knowing what to do being non nude, not gonna lie.
Also, keep in mind the world doesn’t care what you do (show face, show pussy, show feet etc), we’re all SW in their eyes. So even if you do non nude on cam or OF, people will see no difference between you and a pornstar. In their eyes, we’re all hoes, I’m afraid. So at the end of the day, do what you are comfortable with it and what doesn’t eat you alive.
I did cam, but looking back, I put my body through so much, just so I can stay on top. Was it worth it? On the short term, yes. On the long term? Hell no, I was unhappy and tired. It has taken me almost 2 years to wipe the damage. It might sound dramatic, but you get my point. I don’t regret it, I just wish I had other options in SW and truth is, 12 years ago there weren’t many. So choose wisely and think on the long run. Money come and go and if you don’t have an urgency, there is no point to pick the short stick.
Thank you. Yes, my decision to not do nudity has more to do with my personal boundaries and strategy (building clientele, playing coy to begin, getting them hooked and wanting more then gradually over time introduce more at premium prices OFF of big box) and less to do with the stigma. I already know that to the general public a sex worker is a sex worker is a sex worker. I also understand the whorearchy in general and do my best not to buy into it (I'm aware that internalized stigma and misogyny has a way of creeping in, but that's gunk I do my best to clear out). We are all the brave, independent women who decided to prioritize our needs and growth over societal condemnation.
As for the non nude thing, I did cam briefly in the past I was non nude then too. I actually have a vision for it. I'm a natural tease, a dancer, fitness type body, I tend to lead with my personality and intelligence, also I'm not a full on domme but my vibe is definitely femme fatale, sensual domme vibes. I have always gotten leg, feet and ass guys and I have lots of stockings and things like that. I'm also cool with stripping to g-string and pasties, so strip teases, oil shows, dirty talk, etc. I am not saying this strategy will carry me all the way, but I'm confident I can sustain it while in the initial building stages. I don't have any doubts that men will pay for what I'm offering.
Also to touch on your point about the toll camming takes on the body, that's another reason why my strategy is to stay non nude/non explicit on the sites. First off, knowing that they own the rights to that content forever, I'm not giving an inch more than I can deal with them profiting off of forever. I'm looking at the platforms for learning, to pay me while I build, and to build my brand and audience. The goal is to move away from the big box sites so I want to save the big hitting content for spaces where I get to own the rights to what I create.
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Thank you. Yes, my decision to not do nudity has more to do with my personal boundaries and strategy (building clientele, playing coy to begin, getting them hooked and wanting more then gradually over time introduce more at premium prices OFF of big box) and less to do with the stigma. I already know that to the general public a sex worker is a sex worker is a sex worker. I also understand the whorearchy in general and do my best not to buy into it (I'm aware that internalized stigma and misogyny has a way of creeping in, but that's gunk I do my best to clear out). We are all the brave, independent women who decided to prioritize our needs and growth over societal condemnation.
As for the non nude thing, I did cam briefly in the past I was non nude then too. I actually have a vision for it. I'm a natural tease, a dancer, fitness type body, I tend to lead with my personality and intelligence, also I'm not a full on domme but my vibe is definitely femme fatale, sensual domme vibes. I have always gotten leg, feet and ass guys and I have lots of stockings and things like that. I'm also cool with stripping to g-string and pasties, so strip teases, oil shows, dirty talk, etc. I am not saying this strategy will carry me all the way, but I'm confident I can sustain it while in the initial building stages. I don't have any doubts that men will pay for what I'm offering.
Also to touch on your point about the toll camming takes on the body, that's another reason why my strategy is to stay non nude/non explicit on the sites. First off, knowing that they own the rights to that content forever, I'm not giving an inch more than I can deal with them profiting off of forever. I'm looking at the platforms for learning, to pay me while I build, and to build my brand and audience. The goal is to move away from the big box sites so I want to save the big hitting content for spaces where I get to own the rights to what I create.
There are a few sensual faceless dommes that used to bank on AVNStars, now I lost track of them since AVNStars is gone. Both opposite body types, ones was BBW and one was really fit. Both in top 5-10 all the time. As time as you sell a good fantasy, you're set. Outfit is just a plus that goes with it.
I am also a sensual domme, definitely not the stiff BDSM type and I do really well on sites. I do show my face tho, but I don't get nude, unless they pay an outrageous price. A few do, 99% don't, so it's all good for me haha.
You kinda have same vision as I do, so... you're good. You will be succesful!
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Dreamqueen
I've been trying for 6 years to crack the "YouTube code", with zero luck.
My channel started out as very vanilla. I filmed touristy areas, and then morphed into survival prepping.
Only men subscribed, and would pester me to meet.
I also linked it to my vanilla Instagram, where my inbox would fill up with guys wanting to meet.::)
I watch lots of channels where the host gets hundreds of dollars in their superchat and patreon.
They talk about prepping, current news, even gossip.
It appears that my target audience is men.
Wish I could figure out something ( product) to sell them.:-\
I gave up, and started promoting my fan site/pso, etc.
But the response I got was that they don't pay, and want free sex talk, etc.
It is something you have to keep at and just delete or block all those who are wanting your attention for free. Don't give them the time of day, but some of my biggest spenders have come from youtube. I didn't actively recruit them, they found me on SM or OF and paid for my attention.
And on Instagram, I instantly delete all those PMs. Honestly, is not worth the time to read them, much less respond to them. IG does convert well to my OF, where as twitter for camming.