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So now you're going to argue with my local law enforcement's take on (of all things) the law and what constitutes an arrest-worthy offense. Of course you must be totally knowledgable in this field. What do they know? They're just cops.
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Rather than your poseur as a pacifist, I remain suspicious that your true motives are less than pristine. Having been slapped by a dancer, it now behooves you to attempt to convince the rest of us that we will go to jail and our clubs be shut down for defending ourselves from people like you who lunge at any delectable body part waved in their general vicinity.
If it walks like a bully, and talks like a bully... I doubt it is a '69 Volvo.
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I just recently started dancing and haven't encountered too many horrible experiences, but here's my story.
I had an older man who wanted a private dance from me, so I led him over to the couch. He sat down and his fly was open. He's like "oops, I better close that up, I just came from the bathroom." No big deal. During the dance, he kept trying to rub me, and so I put his hands down and told him that he wasn't allowed to touch. Thankfully, he kept his hands to himself at that point. The whole time he kept telling me how pretty I was and asking if I'd be his girlfriend. I turned him down. He then informed me that he was a 65 year old virgin and asked if I would perform "other acts" on him. Um...hell no. I wonder if he was really expecting more from the private dance and that's why he walked in with his pants undone.
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A 65yo virgin! LMAO!!! Just when I thought I'd heard every possible line a guy would come up with! LOLOLOLOLOL!
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So now you're going to argue with my local law enforcement's take on (of all things) the law and what constitutes an arrest-worthy offense. Of course you must be totally knowledgable in this field. What do they know? They're just cops.
My sources are law enforcement officials. If they don't know the law then they're in big trouble. I have mace. You have to pass the test to acquire it.
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Rather than your poseur as a pacifist, I remain suspicious that your true motives are less than pristine. Having been slapped by a dancer, it now behooves you to attempt to convince the rest of us that we will go to jail and our clubs be shut down for defending ourselves from people like you who lunge at any delectable body part waved in their general vicinity.
I am a pacifist. I don't care whether or not you believe that. I know I will not convince any of you of my motivations and i am not trying to convince you to believe me. If you want to assualt anyone who kisses you then go ahead with my blessings! Why not use brass knuckles the next time. I answered you because you posed the question to me and I replied in turn. Make of it what you will.
Okay ,the reason I'm replying this time is because I wrote you a post on the blue site under "To lick or not to lick." I'd prefer we consolidate our discussion on the subject to one site instead of jumping back and forth alright?
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If it walks like a bully, and talks like a bully... I doubt it is a '69 Volvo.
If it walks like a deceiver, and talks like a deceiver...I doubt it is a '99 Mercedes. ;D
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I was going around for tips at the beginning of my shift and this guy put a dollar in his mouth. I really hate that because of course they want to stick it in that way.
yeah, when they do that I wrinkle my nose and say in my best Valley Girl voice, "Ewwww! Do you know where that's dollar's been?"
I refuse to take money via my mouth. Has anybody ever been handed a wet dollar before? I have and I don't think it was slobber. [puke] Of course I immediately dropped it faster than a hot potato but the gross factor damage is already done.
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If the club is a "nice place" that's not a shakedown place... bouncers and management that
won't protect their dancers deserve what they will get... which is a poor crop of dancers.
The good dancers will just move on to places that have better working conditions.
If the VIP rooms are semi private, the dancer is relying on security for her protection,
along with her screening procedure of the customer. There are some customers
you just shouldn't go to VIP with and your gut instinct should tell you which ones.
If the customer smells bad, is drunk on his ass (at the start), or makes
obnoxious comments he's not worth your time or money.
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Lilith and Rayleen, I've just been over the blue site in which I posted a three page response to your allegations. Chuck deleted all except for the argument about what constitutes abuse. It appears that no one is in agreement on that subject and would be a matter that would be taken up by lawyers.
One important point I raised was when you posed the question to me to the nature of," Do you think that you are not offending all that you have kissed?" To which I replied, in the first line, I never said that and then followed up with possible explanations. You ignored my answer, glazed over the supporting statements to highlite the answer, out of context, that you wanted to hear. This is how you have conducted the entire conversation. I realize that it is hopeless to convince a person who is deadset on what the want to hear but I did so for the benefit of more neutral listeners.
Of all the statements you make about not being angry, not making a mountain out of a molehill, if a customer doesn't want what you're selling him, smile and move on, etc. you do not conduct yourself as you pretend to portray. I find you to be very angry , uncontrolled , deceptive, hypocritical, and narrow minded.
Despite the setback I will always try to counter your false allegations as it is my right to. I do not think you are suited for this job and it has nothing to do with your mastectomy, your refusal to give extras. It's solely based on your attitude. I don't think anyone can reach you since you've built such a strong defensive system that shields you from anyones feelings.
When someone reaches to you it can be in a hand shake or a fist. You always see a fist coming. Yes you make money at this job but in the long run I don't think it will make up for what you are going to have to pay.
That's it. As you know I can talk up a storm. Are you ready for the next storm?
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Trying a good-night kiss might be offensive, but it's probably not sexual assault. Touching breast/buttock/genitals without consent may well form a basis for sexual assault in any number of states.
Whether someone is suited for a job is shown by their ability to make money, not by what we say suits them.
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Bah is right.
Customers will try to get away WITH ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. Kisses? Small potatoes. Attempted lickings? Yes, aplenty. These things don't really ruin my night. I am strong enough to push after all.
I hate getting stiffed. Thew most obnoxious of all men, I think, are the ones that try to leave without paying, or try to convince management that the dance "wasn't good enough." Or "She didn't even let me touch!"
Awful jackasses.
Love u dooooods
Juliette de Sade
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Lilith and Rayleen, I've just been over the blue site in which I posted a three page response to your allegations. Chuck deleted all except for the argument about what constitutes abuse.
There is clearly a reason why your posts were deleted.
I didn't read any further into your response other than what is highlighted above.
As I mentioned to you on SCJ already- I have been warned that you often try to seek out conflict with dancers who post here
I will try to not respond other than in this manner
Unfortunatly even this gives persons like you what you want -attention- but it also makes public record of your behavior for others to take note of....
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I can't say I have ever seen a customer who was reprimanded without cause.
I always tried to encourage and reward good behavior by customers, but I have also quickly dealt with those who crossed the line too .
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"Dreamer" ...reminds me of the people who name their pit bull's "cupcake", and miniature poodles "killer"...they are nothing like said names ! LOL!
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hey, poodles can be viscious little fockers! ;D
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Das-boot rids you of said poodle! he he...
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I can't say I have ever seen a customer who was reprimanded without cause.
Sorry Rayleen, but I have. You should try reading some of the posts where the stripper basicly robs the customer, uses the bouncer to intimidate them all without reprimand or recourse.
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I always tried to encourage and reward good behavior by customers, but I have also quickly dealt with those who crossed the line too .
Which is exactly what I do. I always stand up for customers who have been scammed by dancers who have crossed the line.
I have NEVER sought out a conflict. I was just posting my opinion when others leveled their character assasination assualts on me. As I said before , I will counter any and all false allegations made against me.
If you did not want attention then I'd suggest don't make any outrageous charges against anyone, deal?
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"Dreamer" ...reminds me of the people who name their pit bull's "cupcake", and miniature poodles "killer"...they
are nothing like said names ! LOL!
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I don't have a pit bull. I don't even have a pet. Killer is what you might want to name your poodle though.
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Just ignore him girls. He can't stand it. It drives him crazy when we ignore his pathetic attempts... just watch :-)
Lena
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I thought this thread was to vent about obnoxious customers, not an invite......
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This is totally off topic for this thread, but to those of you posting who are having "disagreements".....well, I wish it wouldnt happen, we strippers have to stick together dammit, but at least you guys arent being babies and doing the name calling thing. I cant stand that. Now lets get back on topic with this thread! LOL. Love you guys, Cagney
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There is clearly a reason why your posts were deleted.
Update. I've just been over to SCJ and apparently Chunk had a change of mind. The posts are there.
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I didn't read any further into your response other than what is highlighted above.
Why do I get the impression that you still will not?
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As I mentioned to you on SCJ already- I have been warned that you often try to seek out conflict with dancers who post here
LMAO ;D ;D ;D Rayleen, Lena , and Winter(by the way ,I think I know why you chose that name) how surprising it is that you ALL happened to meet me here?
Oh, I'm sure it's simply a case of coincidence.
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Unfortunatly even this gives persons like you what you want -attention- but it also makes public record of your behavior for others to take note of....
LMAO ;D ;D ;D Well I tell you, you've certainly made the correct choice to avoid attention to your posts by POSTING THEM ON THE INTERNET. I'm sure that's what everyone does to escape the scrutiny of others.
Rayleen, I can't begin to tell you how much you've entertained me. Obviously it won't be the last. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well I didn't read through that long babble fest above as I feel responding to this guy directly is about as useful as trying to get in a water balloon to swim laps but I thought others might be curious as to what his drama is so here is a link:
http://www.stripclubjunkie.com/cgi-b...4180;start=0#0
I've gotten PM's from 4 of you great gals about this fool already how many dancers has he tried this flamestarter on stuff anyway ???
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As Rayleen has pointed out, it's comic relief and little else. The amusement value of watching someone talk to their self, contradicting themselves with every post, is something you don't find everywhere, though, so enjoy it while it lasts.
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LMAO Lilth
its like a bad SNL sketch ;D
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My turn to vent.
Last night I had the worst Mr Grabby Licky asshole for my first customer. I knew he was going to be a jerk, but I couldn't refuse him because he'd tipped the asst manager to get me for him. Rrrrg! He told me that he wanted to go to VIP, but I needed to 'convince' him in the lapdance room first. Ugh - that always means he's going to be a pain in the ass. Not only was he a huge pain in the ass for 2 dances (I tried to take off after 1 but he went and paid for more), but when we were just starting the 3rd, the damn power went out for 45 minutes and the generator wouldn't work. It's been very rainy here lately and the power's been going out alot, putting the generator to heavy use in the last couple weeks. I'm thinking it was out of gas. Anyway, I had to deal with / fight off / entertain this creep the whole time the power was off, because he had been getting dances - not getting paid or tipped for that 'downtime' either. AARRRGG!
So the power finally came back on, and the manager came and told him (in spanish) he wouldn't count that 3rd song we started when the power went off, but he would be charged for any subsequent dances starting now. Guy tries to tell me the manager said he didn't have to pay for the next dance (he was speaking to me in english thinking I didn't know what they were saying). I told him I KNOW the manager didn't say that, he's not giving away dances, and he says 'oh the manager is going to pay you for this one'. HA - I tell him I know better, so he grabs this nasty ho who'd been lolling her tongue at him from outside the lapdance room, gets the next dance and then on to VIP with her. I'm thinking I'm off the hook so happily go back downstairs to get a better customer.
I'm doing just fine, but then Mr Grabby Licky came back down from his VIP, got a drink from the waitress, started telling the waitress he wanted me to come over. I saw him as he was telling her, and wasn't about to go sit with him, so I got up (wasn't getting anything from that table anyway) and headed to the bathroom. As soon as I came out, he got the asst manager to get me AGAIN for more dances. Since he was going to a manager, I had to go. AAARRRGGG!! He was even worse that round because he was more drunk, and kept lunging at me with his tongue and grabbing every time the bouncer turned away. And OF COURSE he went and paid for a 2nd song after the first. After that 2nd one though, I just took off to the dressing room without giving him the chance to pay the bouncer for another (signalling the bouncer to deal with him as I went).
Mr Grabby Licky, ever the stubborn jerk, pretending to talk to the bouncer, waited by the upstairs bar for me to come out. The upstairs is situated so you HAVE to go by the bar and the lapdance room to get to the stairs. I had had enough and was not going to give Mr Grabby Licky the chance to get at me again, so I waited, until finally the bouncer had to tell him to get his ass downstairs. I waited a couple more minutes to give him time to get down and hopefully away from the stairs, ran down, and saw him waiting for me again. The guy was like a freaking stalker. I was NOT being nice to him, and made it clear I didn't want to dance for him, but he just kept hanging on anyway. I found a regular drink-chat guy so I ran to him for cover. Mr Grabby Licky kept hovering around, really weird and freaky. The guy followed me around the club most of the night. When I would go on stage, he'd be right there, hanging over the rail. When I go up to dance for someone else, he'd be hanging by the stairs when we came back down. When I'd go to the bathroom, he'd be hanging out in the hall when I came out. I finally had to get a bouncer to tell the guy I was busy and to leave me alone, and the guy stayed at a distance, but still hovered around like a psycho. Freaking weirdo! What is wrong with a guy like that?! I did everything short of yell and smack him, and he still kept trying to 'get me'. Was he just getting off on annoying me or what? rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Pretty sad. Management should not allow these types to even enter the club!