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New Dancer~VIP?
I just started working at a completely nude club that allows touching. I have been working for 3 weeks and have made pretty decent money although I have so many questions about the VIP rooms- In my club the private dances are $25 - we keep only $20 out of every dance we do. Well a lot of the girls go in for a private dance and dont come out for 5 or 6 songs where as Im sitting there hustling my butt off because i seem to only get one per customer. My question is -After a private dance(one song) is through do we ask the customer if they would like another dance or just keep going? And if we ask them how do I ask them without wording it in that way and how do i ask them without breaking the mood. Because once the mood is broken they want to stop. Another question- Since our club is a touch club in the VIP room we are supposed to take off all of our clothes except for thongs and give them a dance. Well a lot of customers I have break the rules and try to slip their fingers in me. And a lot of them will put their fingers right in the crack of my butt LoL. They also like to suck and nibble on my tits, when they do this which is like all the time-how do i tell them nicely not to? And how would i avoid the whole situation of them doing that. Because almost everyone does it to me. Im really getting sick of it. I've tried to tell them the rules before hand but when i do that they dont even want the private dance at all.
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Re: New Dancer~VIP?
I also work in a nude contact club, but we are nude for the private dances as well. To get the guy to buy another dance, I usually get super close to him towards the end of the song and whisper in his ear, "do you want another or are you all set?" (I say the are you all set part because, if he doesn't want another, I think it is better than hearing NO but that is just me). I wouldn't just keep going because a) you dont know if the customer actually has money for 5 or 6 dances, and b) the customer might "play dumb" and after several dances, act like he thought it was all one song or something. If that happens and he complains to the management, the manager will most likely take the customers side...i have seen it happen before. As far as guys putting their hands where they are not supposed to go, I would get the money for the dance upfront, and then when he tries any funny stuff I would tell him that isn't allowed in the club, and if he tries again you will be forced to stop dancing for him and there are no refunds. And as for the guys who wont get a dance unless you break the rules-they are pigs and you really can't do anything about it, I would just move on (hopefully) to a nicer group of guys who know how to respect a lady. Good luck!!
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Re: New Dancer~VIP?
Theresa is probably correct that if this is a nude club the majority of other dancers are probably doing 100% nude lap dances. While I agree that the grabby guys are pigs, it's also probably safe to assume that their actions are based on activities which they were allowed to get away with by other dancers. In fact, it's fairly likely that some of the other dancers, the ones who are selling 5 or 6 private dances in a row, may be providing even more contact than that (i.e. hand jobs, blow jobs) during private dances. This probably explains why you are only able to sell one private dance to a customer. One question which would confirm this is whether or not you have gotten much repeat business from customers who have bought a private dance with you on a previous occasion.
In these difficult economic times its not at all surprising to see the "sleaze factor" increasing. Many guys have less money to spend, and therefore are expecting more "bang" for their buck. About the only way to avoid this syndrome it to start working in a top shelf show club where contact is totally prohibited. However, most other dancers facing the "sleaze factor" are also trying to get hired by the upscale clubs, meaning that the top shelf show club owners can be extremely picky in choosing new dancers in regard to appearance etc.
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Re: New Dancer~VIP?
I always heat up the dance towards the end... in a contact club I like to end a song kneeling on the ground with my breasts against his crotch, then breath in his ear and say "can I keep dancing for you?" or "want another one?" If they say no I pout for a second and then smile and say "that's okay, I love you anyways" and hug them - that gets me a lot of repeat dances even from guys that have already said no.
As far as guys touching, you can move their hand away and say "ooh, bad boy" with a mischevious smile. You can act like they're going to get you in trouble and your afraid because your new. You can just move away from their hands. You can hold their hands with your hands the whole time your dancing (this can be a cool effect sometimes).
Lena
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Re: New Dancer~VIP?
I must demur that guys necessarily are looking for orgasms with a lap dance. When I or my buddies get a lap dance, it's because we enjoy being with naked ladies, and the lap dance experience ratchets that closeness up a lot.
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Things in lap dances that have made me want more (well, that I can talk about):
Caressing my face soft and slow or stroking gently with fingernails.
A tight hug is always ince.
Framing my face with her breasts as she slides up my body, although one dancer stayed there long enough to start oxygen depletion for me, which was distracting. Or brushing my cheek with the outside of her breast.
Slow soft brushing of just about any part of her over my crotch. (Sorry. I'm a guy.)
Running her hands up my trouser legs to feel my calves.
Hooking her fingers into my waistband and tugging, being playful about it.
Unbuttoning one of my shirt buttons, putting her hand on my chest.
Sounds. Look, I know that when the dancer moans or gasps, she's faking it, but if she has just a *little* sound going on at the right times, it's a pretty good stimulus. And if you're with a guy who *wants* to believe that she means it, it's better yet.
Lena's splits-technique is pretty good, once per dance. I've also had a dancer ask me to take out a dollar, put it in my teeth, and she takes it with the tops of her thighs when she does that headstand thing, and that's pretty cute.
Just being attentive and soft. If she's looking around, it's a mood-killer, unless... well, generally, it's a mood-killer.
Generally, giving the guy a back-seat-in-the-car experience, with hopes that he might make it to a base, is a good thing.
I also tend to look in a dancer's eyes as much or more than her body. But most guys are genitals-fixated. If you're doing a nude lap dance, waving the cookie in front of his face from time to time will work just fine.
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Things that don't work well for me:
Pinching, twisting, or biting my nipples through my shirt.
Hard grinding. If he's erect, and you smash directly down on it, it'll probably hurt him. Compressed testicles hurt, too.
Anything that might leave a mark.
Don't let the guy lick you. I once got a dancer's breast smacked to my face, which ordinarily would've been nice, but it had a smear of saliva from the previous guy, and that was pretty repulsive.
Overdone moaning.
The dancer being bored. Sorry, I understand you might be, but it's not good for repeat business.
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As for keeping his hands away, if his hands are in a position where you don't want them, use your hands or knees or feet to push them aside. If his hands come up, you can grab them and just hold hands for a minute, then put them down. If he persists, what the other ladies have said here is good: you can dance away, murmur that it's not allowed, threaten to stop the dance.
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Re: New Dancer~VIP?
When i first started dancing i was open to VIP's and lap dancing. Then my first lap dance...the guy struggled to finger me. That was it. Yep one guy ruined that for me.. And i only do VIP's at one club. Talking sex. No touching. The guy pays for my time. And loves to tell me dirty stories. I listen to him, he is very intelligent! i am not sure he can cum, or wants too!! just get aroused talking dirty. Different. Pays me ok.. i like his attitude very much. hes worth my 15 to 20 minutes. Gotta be around 70, i have nothing against the younger guys....they rock. But the older guys are the ones who pay 'me' better. usually retired they say from the Space station or a doctor.
Pamela
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Re: New Dancer~VIP?
Jason's tips are excellent. Those are all things that guys enjoy and that aren't too raunchy. I also like to run my fingertips along his neck very slowly and end the dance facing him, doing this while looking into his eyes with my hair over his face and my breasts millimeters from his nose ( a good position to get the next dance). I find that if you give a good dance, the guy will be happy and not try to do anything you don't want him to - I will sometimes whisper that their hands are distracting me from playing with him, which can work pretty well, and most get the message if you move their hands down.
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Re: New Dancer~VIP?
If having men trying to finger me was a constant threat i would find a better place to work.. preferably topless strip joints. If they want a $20 hooker then im sure they wont have any problems finding one on a corner somewhere.. But stripping is not selling you body for sex.. its selling a fantasy.. and some men dont seem to understand that..