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OK...whats the deal with????$$$$
Hi guys, first I want to thank everyone who gave advice on my other subject. :)
Now... I have been dancing now for about a month and think I have been doing ok, but... I am wondering what IS doing well and what ISN'T. I work in a nicer club in vegas and I hear girls say they had a good night when they made 1-2 hundred and others say a good night is 800, I am doing about in the middle of those but it stays about the same every night I'm there.
I heard on the grapevine that in one of the more touchy feelly clubs 1500-2000 a night on the weekends is the norm?? I wen't into one of these clubs to check it out and boy.... hands all over the place :P which is weird as a girl was written up in my club (by a cop) for something not even half as bad as what i saw there ???. (the new rule changes here obviously doesn't worry them)
I guess my question is to make the bigger money do you have to let them touch alot :P.
I know things will be up and down in this business but I was wondering about you guys as I dont know what to believe from the others I talk to at work( you know,,, the two faced bitchy thing that goes on).
Anyway sorry for the rambling and thanks for any replies. :)
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My personal experience has been that the most money I ever made was in a club where a guy would be bounced if he deliberately touched so much as your knee. However, the caveat to that is that it was a few years ago, and in an area where the local laws were very strict about such things. In other words, anyone who regularly went to that club knew the score, and usually behaved.
I find that in areas where more contact is the norm, the more contact the guys generally seem to expect in return for their money. That's one fo the reasons I try to focus more on developing customers who are more old school, or who have worked in the strip joint industry previously - these guys, in my personal experience, tend to be more respectful and hands free with a girl who shows that she is not really into the contact aspect of things. Unfortunatly, these guys are far from being the majority and are becoming fewer and fewer.
I canonly speak from my own personal experiences, though. And I would lay bets that many other girls have had entirely different experiences, or experiences that are much more extreme. So I cannot claim that mine are entirely representative.
McCain
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Just my own humble opinion, but ...
... from what I have seen lately, there are only two groups of dancers who are able to make serious money today. The first group is top shelf "show club" dancers in big city show clubs that draw celebrities, expense account businessmen etc. These girls have a shot at major income with little or no contact. However, in order to make it past the audition at top shelf "show clubs", these days the girl virtually has to have a '10' body, with a model's face, a passable stage performance, and the intelligence and conversational skills to hold her own conversing with celebrities and businessmen.
The second group of dancers who are making serious money are nude dancers in high contact clubs. This is especially true if the high contact is being provided in violation of local or state laws, so that customers don't mind paying a "risk premium". Based on this 'risk premium' I have seen girls earn more having their tits and asses grabbed in the northeast than other girls earn giving HJ's or BJ's in San Francisco or Ontario.
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I think dancers exaggerate a lot. At my club, in NY, a good night is $500-600. Average is probably $250-$300. We are a nude medium-contact club.
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I work in New York in a topless club on the border of New York and New Jersey, Rockland County. The topless table dances are done on the floor in the midst of the club happenings no private area, with little to no contact from the customers. I would say most girls average 300-400 a night with an occassional 600-800 this time of year. We do have dancers that make consistently 700-800 plus but thats usually from regular customers that either treats them to the champagne room or gives them a minimum amount of dances whenever they stop by to visit.
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From all the girls I talked to, it really depends on alot of factors when it comes to an average income per night.I agree with Melonie, these two types of dancers vary greatly.I know a couple of girls in a popular Vegas club that are kind of favored by the club and they get to party with the big fish when told by the club.In return they get speacial treatment by the club.These girls are majors and spend almost every night at the club and I've seen them make $1500 in a night.I think most girls are having trouble earning more because of the customers that have been coming in.I've noticed alot of scum lately in some popular clubs.Guys always complain that the dancers just ask "if you want a dance" and won't spend time with them.I don't blame the girls, I would'nt spend the time to light my cigarette with them.A friend of mine does'nt sit with most guys anymore because it's a waist of time to earn 1 or 2 dances on.Some nights she's made $80, and others she's made $1000.
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As Melonie says earnings depend on a lt of factors.
Dancers exaggerate their earnings. Go around to most club around the country and you won't see enoug volume to make $100 or you will go in a busy club and see as many dancers as customers.
I currently work M-Sat bookings in the Midwest in smaller towns and he money is more consistent than in th larger cities with no schedules and up and down volume.
Every week I hav nights in the hundreds and nights in the two to four hundred range.
I keep seeing girls post Friday and Saturday figures but no weeknight figures. lots of those juice bars are virtually empty during theweek andhave te college age crowd on weekend nights.
The upscale clubs have better clientele during the week and weekends are the $100 nights .
In a place like Vegas you might hit 40 one night or even 2, and $500 the next two. Waaay too many girls work there now and managers can send you home at any time by saying they have too many girls.
Most dancers don't work 5-6 nights a week. Just approach every customer, be friendly but persistentin selling them (nver judge a customer because of their looks or race) you haveto accept rejection in sales or you'll never sell well, and write down your hours and figures each night and you'll be able to judge for yourself how much is reality.
You've got to work full time at this for a month or so and track yourfigures for a month. Then you'll know the truth.
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I basically have to agree that smaller city clubs that don't involve heavy contact now usually offer this kind of rotten average earnings potential for and average dancer, i.e. a $500 good night now and then with $100-$200 on the other nights. This is why I stick to the top shelf "show clubs" in big cities which tend to draw celebrities, heavy duty business guys and loaded tourists which are not to be found in smaller cities. But you also won't find average dancers in top shelf "show clubs" - club owners won't let them get past the audition! I can earn more money in less time working from home on my WebCam than shaking my tits off in a smaller city club all night long!
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The clubs that are in Montana, North and South Dakota, Western Iowa, and Northern Nebraska, along with scattered clubs in smaller Illinois, Minnesota and Wisconsin cities pay anywhere from $300-$450 per week for a Mon- Sat booking on top of your dance and tip earnings. Most pay in cash and some in check for the exact amount of your pay. if a girl doesn't complete the wek she will get no pay.
Therefore when I work these clubs $50 to $75 is added to my nightly earnings in the club. If I hit $200 on Monday and Tuesday, $125 on wednesday, $375 on Thursday, $200 on friday, and $250 on saturday, plus $400 in pay, I've made $1750 for the week, and because the ratio of dancers to customers is better the money is steadier.
Granted I must work a 6 night week but in a big city club guys have more grls to look at and are slower to buy dances, plus the more upscale clubs don't generate many stage tips and in these clubs you'll get $50-$100 a nighton stage.
I average $270 per night in booking clubs and only $213 in a big city club with no schedules and lots of girls.
Many girls whom were my friends in the last big city upscale club I worked at tell me they only made $50 som nights and on othernights say they made $400 but all off one guy. The money is not steady with so many girls working, declining business customer counts and guys look at all the eye candy long and hard before they decide on one girl in those club so the money is not steady.
Many girls in all typesof clubs don't approach EVERY customer and I sell a lot of dances to guys who say I wasthe first girl to talk to them.
I don't feel that the "upscale" air dance clubs offer $300 plus earnings nightly ( I consider $300 a good night based on my experiences). And I know a lot of girls I work with make A LOT LESS oftentimes.
For me to work 6 night bookings inclubs where a bad week is $1200-$1300 and a good week is$1800-$2000 is good for me, because in the big city clubs with tons of girls and fluctuating customer counts a bad 5-6 day week could be $700-$900 and a good week is theame as the smaller booking clubs, but sometimes a dry spell hits and bad weeks last 3-4 weeks.
I just don't see girls making the $500 plus figures as an average 5-6 nights a week, and I have worked at and visited hundreds of clubs. I could count on my fingers and toes the BUSIER upscale clubs in the country, and only a handful of girls would ever be able to work in them and since the average customer spending is higher every girl will not be the the chosen one each night where in the busier middle of the road clubs where all types of guys frequent all your earnings aren't dependent on one or two guys whom you sit with all day/night.
Plus many dancers do not work full time so what good is a $600 night if they only work 7-8 nights a month. They will never accumulate any type of wealth and be able to offset the nights where they are not the chosen dancer of a big spender unless they work 20 nights or so a month.
I am still waiting for the juice bar dancers who comment on high earnings mde on Friday and saturday nights to discuss their Sunday- Thursday earnings. Many of tose clubs are so slow those nights they might lose money working. And on weeends the young crowd is predominant and the older customersare the ones who will spend money on dances.
I just don't see the majority of dancers earning $500 a night average dancing and I have been around a lot.
Granted as a dancer of color, many higher end clubs are not ethnically friendly, but even for white 9's and 10's there is not that much money to go around 5 NIGHTS PER WEEK. I know there are few exceptions, but for the amount of posters on these sites acting like $500-$1000 nights are a piece of cake, odds are not that high that these websites only attract dancers in the top 10% of theindustry who earn this much.
I will say again to the initiator of this post on $$$, average your own figures and consider the source of the girls who act like hundred dollar bills are flying around the club waiting to be grabbed. And many of the girls who do make more hook up with guys outside the club for sex. I know this for a fact because lots of girls who do this have told me so.
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Another blurb on flaky dancers
If some of these girls have a $600+ night you won't see them back at work for about a week. They just come in when they need to pay a bill. Then when it is slow they are pacing the floor saying "shit, there' s no money, my electricity will be turned off tomorrow if I don't get $150". Or they hav tickets which hav turned into warrants and they hide when the cops come in looking fr them.
The last week of the month in Houston about 20 more girls a day pop in that haven't been in all month to get rent money.
Lot's of these girls are not motivated by money enough to treat dancing like a real job. How many do you see come to work in a cab?
You will really only encounter a handful of dancers in these clubs who really have something to show from dancing and who work at it like a career.
A girl who makes so much money wouldn't need to borrow your makeup or tampons. See what I mean.
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Please tell me you girls are joking about the money. I used to dance in a small town in the southeast and averaged about 600-700 a night. This was in an area where the average income was less than half of what it is here in NJ.
Most nights I never even made it on stage, just hustled for my drinks ($10 or 20 for a double) private dances ($50-3 songs), or hot tub ($250 a half hour-2 bouncers in the room). You keep half of everthing-plus tips.
I would say the average girl at my old club made 200-300 a night, but most were there to party not to make money.
I also waitressed my ass of for tips when it was slow, or not very many waitresses were working, or I was making less than $50 per 3 song set on stage.
On an average night I would sign out for around 20 drinks and 5 or 6 private dances, plus several hundred in tips. This was a medium contact nude club.
I am planning to audition here in NJ, but don't think it would be worth it without similar earning potential. Please, honest advise on earning potential in Northern NJ. Details would be appreciated (drink hustle or not, how much we keep, tip out $, private dance $, potential for waitressing, and how stage time works, such as 3 songs per girl, how many on stage at one time, and average $ per set on weekends).
Sorry so long, and thanks for reading!
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WHAT THE HELL??????? How is it your making so much money??????Am I just in a really shitty cheap assed club??? I wont even go there with the most I ever brought home~Its shameful~PLEASE some one help me!!!!!!
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Maybe it is location. Like the farther south you go the better the money? That is what I'm trying to figure out, before I invest in new shoes outfits, and gowns.
I know that several girls from my old club went down to dance at a club in or near Atlanta for a week, and they were guaranteed 1000 or 1500 a night, sorry I can't remember which, it was 2 years ago.
My old club never overbooked dancers either, which I've heard several people say was a big problem here. Usually 8-10 dancers and 3 waitresses during the week and 12-15 with 4-5 watiresses on weekends.
Also, when I first started I only made a couple of hundred a night. It took about 3 months before I got the hang of the hustle. And I could never drink and make money. Even 1 or 2 and my profits suffered.
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I have danced since the late 80's and have seen places which were lucrative slow down to hit and miss money today. I grew up in Memphis, and being an african american dancer wasn't th best placeto be although I was one of a few dancers ofcolor to work in some busy clubs. many of you girls being white don't fully understand discrimination. I worked for th owner of th Tiffany's chain who lives in Memphis and sold it to Christies recently. He let me work as a "token" black as I wasn't niggery acting but would tell white girls that they were lowering themselves if they danced for black men. another major club owner in Memphis, Danny who went to prison for pimping and pandering and the Feds shut his clubs down which are still empty today 10 years later would charge h few black girls he allowedto work more than the whites.
I have worked in the busiest club in Anchorage AK and not seen the money girls on this site mention. I have been to clubs in Oregon, Seattle, california, Arizona, New mexico, El Paso, Austin TX, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas (which used to be great until the law stepped in), las vegas which has too many girls to make CONSISTENT earnings and where you could b let go at any tim if he club/shift managers don't want you anymore, Reno, Kansas City was great in the early 90's before the clubs got shut down. Memphis besides Platinum plus which allows all kinds of sexual activity and would never hire me being black is slow now. Jackson MS has had a lot of club closings and is slow. Indianapolis is ok but is still kind of blue collar in nature. the money is VERY steady but a $1500 week is not th norm, but hapened randomly and where i workedsince we paid by the dance I was one of the top dance seling girls. South Florida is swarming with girls and every club there is not busy. jacksonville Fl has strict rules and money is poor. Mons venus in tampa is busy, but hs experienced busts this past year. amn near every club in The Tampa Bay area is slow except for maybe 4-5 clubs out of 40. orlando with it's no contact laws and elimination of nudity in casselberry is slow. About 2 clubs do well there.
I hve not been to th Northeastern states to work. I hear the clubs all book by the day there and thus regulate the amount ofgirls working per shift, plus being full of established major metropolitan areas has more high income patrons I assume.
Most of the US does not book dancers but clubs don't have schedules. Girls are hired and can work whenever thy want. Arizona, New Mexico, Las Vegas and Reno, Texas, most of Florida, tennessee, etc your money varies based on how many girls show up to work and how many customers/ customers willing and able to buy dances show up.
No girl will CONSISTENTLY earn $300++ a night given those circumstances and there are more working class guys than CEOs so every girl who is an 8-10 on the Scores scale is not going to be able to work in thefew clubs nationwide who have upper income patrons willing to spend $$$$ on a selected dancer.
I mentioned where i work now and to me that is the best opportunity as far asi am concerned. Only one club in the area I book in in the Midwest doesn't want me. the others all communicate and know I am reliable, sell lots of dances and am easy to get along with and rebook me constantly. i have to work 6 nights but I will stay in the area 5-6 weks in a row and then go home for 2 weeks. While i am home i have the option of working 2-3 nights at my discretion since there are no dancer schedules just so i don't have to tap into my road money.
The majority of clubs are slow and mny dancers won' go from table to table selling dances and talking with customers. You probably will hve to sit for a few songs and talk to a guy to get 2 dances, but the same guy might come back in and buy from you again. You can't look for $1000 nights. they are rare. steady money is better than rollercoaster money.
Most clubs in the coutry are slow and wont yield a 5 night a week dancer more than $600-$800 per week. It could be fancy club at that but with as many girls working a night as there re customers or more girls than customers.
My suggestion to the girl who is experiencing these 3 figure weeks is to be open to travel and seek out busier clubs wherelots of dances aresold and there are at least 2.5 customers for every dancer. that may be a tall task but thats what is needed, or check out the places i mentioned. if you are willing to work the clubs in the Midwest on bookings like I do and approach every customer for dances and never walk out of a club because it is slow and not object to going on stage in some clubs 10 times a night and not worry about having some farmers and ranchers for customers, you could make $5500-$7500 in 4 weeks work, which might not sould like much to the girls who claim they hit $500+ every night but in reality is better money than a full time dancer will make in 75% of th clubs in the US today.
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OK Jasmine, here's my 'realistic' estimate of north jersey earning potential for a dancer who is willing to hustle but who is not a 'perfect 10' - average bikini club $200 weeknights $350 weekends, top shelf bikini club $ 400 weeknights $600 weekends. Hustling drinks is not part of the Jersey Club M.O.- not enough time since you're on stage at least 20 minutes per hour.
Nude clubs average contact $ 400 weeknights $ 800 weekends, nude clubs major contact $600 weeknights $1000+ weekends. However, unlike the bikini clubs, most NJ nude clubs generally do not 'hire' dancers to work week after week after week. Instead they 'book' dancers for a week or two at a time. The top earning nude club in north Jersey (GoGoRama) has a policy of not allowing the same girl to book more than one week per month (although this house rule is 'bent' occasionally). This translates into a $4000+ week once a month, with much lower paying weeks working at other lower paying clubs sandwiched in between. There is also a potential risk of being busted, as many 'standard procedures' in NJ nude clubs which produce the high income potential are technically in violation of NJ state law.
The top shelf bikini clubs and the top earning nude clubs have DOZENS of dancers on waiting lists for every available opening. This puts the clubowners in the drivers seat, and they can be very picky about the appearance, personality, performing and conversational skills of the dancers they hire/book. Because many clubowners in NJ operate several clubs, they may also require that a dancer work at different 'sister' clubs in other cities which may add an extra hour's drive in both directions and which may result in lower income when forced to work at some of the 'sister' clubs.
Unlike the small town Southern clubs, where the good looking dancers were few and far between, where the guys were somewhat respectful, and where the ratio of customers to dancers is pretty high, in NJ great looking dancers are everywhere, most clubs book many more dancers relative to customers than you're used to (because the clubs make money by charging the dancers stage/booking fees -> more dancers = more club income even though more dancers = less dancer income) and the guys by and large look upon buying private dances as a 'business deal' where they try to get the most and spend the least.
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Hey, now, Melonie, watch what you say about the small Southern towns where the dancers aren't pretty. ;) I dance in a small Southern town, and the girls at my club are, for the most part, beautiful---as is the case with most of the local clubs.
As for money, well, like I said I work in a small town where weeknights are slow as hell (sometimes we're lucky to break $50 a night) but weekends are great. My club is pretty strict--pasties and booty shorts, no contact with customers during private dances--but it makes the guys all (pretty much) well-behaved and respectful.
The big key to making money is to hustle on the floor. Just walk up to a guy sitting by himself and ask if he wants some company. Start a conversation. Don't press for anything. 95% of the time he'll want to buy you a drink, and then that will usually progress to more. Never, ever press guys, though-- most of your customers go to several clubs a month (or week, or even night) and get tired of girls pestering them to buy drinks and dances. Be patient, nice, and look interested in whatever it is he has to say.
Also, remember, your stage dance is like a movie preview for the guys--you're showing off so that they'll want to buy you drinks and get a private dance from you, not from the other girls. I haven't got the best body in the world-- a few extra pounds, with small-C breasts-- but I work my ASS off on stage, and I really get into the music. I also make sure to look around the club and smile at the guys who are watching me (a lot of dancers tend to stare at themselves in the mirror while they're dancing-- a big no-no). I also do some silly stuff, like playing air guitar if there's a solo during a rock song I'm dancing to. Guys love stuff like that, it makes you look approachable and fun and, therefore, sexy. There are girls at my club who are gorgeous and slender and tan with perfectly shaped, large fake breasts, and I consistently bring home at least $40-$60 more than them a night-- not because I'm more beautiful, or even that I'm a better dancer (I don't know very many cool pole tricks, for example), but just because I'm always smiling and look like I'm having fun. On one incredibly slow night when we had a total of about 15 customers over a course of 8 hours, I brought home $150, while the rest of the girls made about $80, just from having fun and hustling. Your income is what you make it. Don't get bummed out if you're having a slow night...there's still money to be made.
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I agree with you, what Melonie said was offensive. The girls at my old club were all 9's or 10's, I can't say the same for the one strip club (very highly rated) that I have been to in NJ, some of the girls were breathtaking, all fit the stereotypical mold of a stripper, but some were merely average.
The club that I worked for had the best dancers in the area and had been open for many years, so we had a lot of regulars. I will admit there were a few local establishments that had sub-par dancers, but there are dives everywhere. (That's right, I drive past them everyday here in NJ).
My old club was in a fairly small town, within driving distance of a very large city, which is "dry" (no alcohol establishments, and no nude clubs). Maybe this had a lot to do with the earning potential. I really don't know, but I do believe that you can always make top dollar if you surround yourself by beautiful girls, but make sure you are the most well kept and well spoken of the group. Also, I never made money when I tried wearing neon colors, or those clear shoes, it just never seemed to appeal to the big spenders.
Sadly, I had to leave the area due to safety issues.
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I work in a lot of small town and feel that what Melonie is trying to say is that there are so many attractive girls to choose from in the major metro areas that the owners can be nit picky on who they hire.
In the area I work now most of the club owners talk to each other and all know about me. Thy sa how pretty I am and some call me for bookings. One club wrote m a thank you letter for coming to work with them.
Then i go to a major area like Las Vegas, or Austin texas, etc, andget he run around like I went from an 8-9 to a 5.
I bet the managers in your rural clubs are not so snobby when it comes to hiring and truly appreciate when attractive girls want to dance.
Plus it's not as competitive selling guys in these towns of 3000-150,000 people as they only work a set amount of girls. lots of the customers call the club on Monday to see who is workng for the week and many times I get greeted by guys who remember me when I was at the club 5-6 weeks ago.
The larger the city and the busier the club the more the owners have the license to be assholes. It's starting to get that way in Fargo ND, which has 1 club out of 140,000 people and has been like tht in Sioux Falls SD with 160,000 people andone club and the next largest city in the area, Sioux City IA with 120,000 people has 3 clubs, 1 of which has all 8's 9"s and rarely a woman of color and he refuses to book me because I worked for the competition, yet I e-mailed him my photo 1st and was ignored so I think it was a racial thing.
High population, high volume and high earning customers gives clubs the license to be shitty.
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Yes, Tina, that was exactly my point. I was not trying to say that the girls in small town Southern clubs weren't pretty. My point was that the very fact that they are pretty and willing to dance virtually guarantees them a job offer in a small town Southern club, simply because there isn't a big surplus of pretty local dancers available so those that want to dance get a chance to dance. As you pointed out, I was also only trying to point out the contrast that in big city clubs in Jersey or Vegas or Southern cities like Atlanta for example, there are three or five or ten times as many pretty girls willing to dance as there are available openings in clubs with good earning potential. This allows the big city clubowners to be much more picky about which dancers they hire - and not just picky in terms of appearance, either. I'll also totally agree that there are some real trashy clubs in Jersey - the girls that can't make the 'cut' at the upscale clubs have to wind up working somewhere!
I guess I was trying to say that girls working in successful small town clubs are lucky ... but don't count on having the same sort of luck in large metro areas! On the other hand, income potential which is considered "good" in a small town Southern club where the cost of living is reasonable (I think $150 a night was posted) wouldn't pay the rent and buy groceries in a large metro area, so that the earning potential of even the second tier clubs in a large metro area may be significantly higher in absolute dollar terms. Obviously, top shelf clubs in large metro areas offer earning potentials in a whole different league than small Southern clubs (like earning a weeks worth of small town Southern club income in a single night), which is the major reason that competition among even great looking dancers to work in these clubs is so intense. If a girl is a 'perfect 10' she's got a good shot in any type of club anywhere. But as you posted about Vegas clubs, if a girl is a '9', she may have inspired a reaction of awe from a small town clubowner but in a large metro area a top shelf clubowner may only yawn while the '9' finishes her audition, with a bunch of '10's ready to go up after her!
If there's any truth to the post of earning $600 to $700 a night in a small town Southern club, my advice would be to stay there and enjoy your good fortune, because you're not likely to find anything better in large metro areas. I wouldn't post details, though, or you're likely to have a dozen new girls knocking on the club's front door!
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Hey Melonie, you mentioned that you make more on some night at home with your webcame... Where exactly can I do this? I have been looking into doing the webcam thing for awhile but haven't found anything that seemed worth it. Thanks in advance if you can help ;D
Ps- how do I get my little picture on the side??
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To get ur lil pic on the side, you set your avatar in your profile... :-[ I really need to get a FAQ together.
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wow i think income is hit or miss
your not always going to be the flavor of the day
ive made 700 on a sat day shift and ive made 50 the next day
it cant always be gravy
if that was the case EVERY girl in north america would be dancing
i takes some decication and commitment to invest time and money in clothes and such and cultivating regular customers
i dont know, to me its a gamble u never know if hes gonna get one dance or ten,
are all your regs going to be there on one day or none of them
just have to keep smiling and plug away
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Hi ladies,
after reading all that was said i just have to tell about my dancing experience. I have only danced in florida. I am in what you would call a upscale club. I am topless, should be nude..my thong does nothing but stick to my lips..lol.
I believe number one all time dancer must have is YOUR REPEAT CUSTOMERS!!!!! They love seeing you be sooo damn sexy! PLease them. (within rules.) And move on to get more repeats! It's easy, make yourself available to them. Sex them up with your charm! Smile flirt, laugh at their jokes, be close to them, lean way in! Make yourself part of the "in crowd."
You can be a 10, but a 5 can make more money. A 10 can be less aggressive, a 5 works harder, her mind is so damn sexy! Yes men are visual, but your mind attracts them more, once you have made the contact. Be beautiful sit in the corner and see. Be a 5 work the club, love it, them, you...and see !!
I don't get putting women on a scale of looks, when it's all about working what you have. 5, 10, no difference to me when they both are selling their Working skills! When a woman walks into work, she is not selling beauty...she is selling knowledge. Knowledge about how to work a room, get the guy! Flirt, smile, sit with him for a few, get inside his brain (mind again) And make him feel like TO YOU he is number one!!!! Remember his name, face, what he likes. Write it down later before you forget. Men love it when you remember names, what they drive, their job. Talk about him....he sees your style right now. Only answer his questions about yourself.
And i work near a very large strip of engineers (all types) who come into my area alot. They are great spenders here!
Yes, i make excellent money, and work 5 nights a week. Eastern, 11:00 pm untill 2:00am, short hours, but it pays to have an attitude! And of course skill helps. I will be perfectly honest here, my earnings go up and down due to my clientel. Some nights they seem to all show up I have counted out, after tipping out everyone, 900 big ones my purse!!!! Some nights when i have to bring more clientel my way, i have to work harder and will purse my fair share of 600 bucks easy! I am not a slacker (as i am sure you ladies are not) however... i am a mover and a shaker easy. If i don't feel it in me on a work night, i don't go. It will reflect on all my hard work getting there! I enjoy the men. I feel at home in the club! It pays!!!!
Pamela
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Re: OK...whats the deal with????$$$$
It depends on the night so much! I usually make somewhere between $100 and $400 (i'll be so happy once i get past 400! :) -but then again, I don't have any regulars ...because i work on a really irregular basis.
Don't always believe what the other dancers are saying they're making, it's not necessarily true. Though, I have seen dancers with $800. in their hand, calling it a bad night. It all depends on the club, the customers, and you!
I usually get frustrated when I come out with only 100 something dollars (Especially when girls are in the dressing room talking about how little they made and it's so much more than i did) ...but then I realize it doesn't matter because that's more than I would be making at a "normal" job!...anyways...it's a challenge..I love becoming a better dancer...I think there's as much money in it as you make it. Potentially every guy who walks through that door is your customer~the prob is making the money on a consistent basis.
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Re: OK...whats the deal with????$$$$
oh and also, do what you're comfortable with~you don't have to compromise yourself to make money...and if you do...move on to another club. i'm not the greatest dancer (yet;) ), but I manage to get by as a prude :P