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Chicago Area - help?
I am moving soon to Chicago and would like to know about clubs in the area (including nearby Indiana clubs). I have 2 small tattoos; I've heard that's a problem at some clubs (true or false?). I'd like to know the details about the classiest/best clubs: tipouts, #hours in a shift & choice of shifts, level of contact allowed, presence of bouncers, estimated take-home, amateur nights, VIP, what the dressing rooms are like. I'm in very good physical shape but petite with no fake boobs, have danced for a few years; not exactly a pro but can do some pole tricks and know how to dance. I'm particularly interested in Allstars, Admiral, VIPs (Crazy Horse), Club O, Industrial Strip (maybe Diamond's or Heavenly Bodies too). I have read in some of the other posts regarding Chicago about "funny money" - can anyone explain? Any and all info would be very greatly appreciated.
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There are several messages further down this section in which all of your questions have been answered.
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Thank you Juliet :) but I had already read every single post about Chicago and Illinois. They were helpful and some of them answered some of my questions but I still had more specific ones. I would rather ask them here than go to the clubs and waste the dancers' time by asking them. Maybe I should just go to the clubs? Would all the ones I mentioned be worth checking out? On amateur night at the Admiral are you supposed to look like an amateur or is it more like an audition?
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All of the questions you asked HAVE been answered, but I'll try again: The best clubs in town are VIP's and The Admiral. SHifts are roughly 8 hrs. long at each, and both clubs pay minimum wage in addition to your tips. House-fee is $113 at The Admiral, though you only pay $35 your first month. At VIP's, house fee is $100, but you also tip-out 20% of earnings at the end of the night. Both are NO_CONTACT,gown clubs, and are very upscale. Most girls at The Admiral are 6-8's, with a couple of 9's...many ethnic and natural girls,also. At VIP, most girls are 7-9,few ethnic girls,lots of fake boobs;however, I'm ethnic and I'm one of the top earners there. The chamapgne room at VIP is $400/hr.,all of which you keep, except for the 20% tip-out. Auditions at THe Admiral are on Thurs via the amateur contest --pro dancers do better than real amateurs. At VIP, auditions are SUN nights.
Earnings vary considerably. The Admiral is fully nude, $10 dances, so an 8 or a 9 in looks with a good attitude and work ethic can only avg. $300-$400 weeknights and $400-$650 weekends. VIP is a pastie,$20/dance club, so a hard-working 8 or 9 can avg. $500-$1000 any night.
I would avoid Industrial Strip and Club O unless you don't mind full-contact,nude dances. Both of these clubs have a blue-collar clientele, though earnings potential is high due to the heavy-duty dances.
AllStars is a decent topless club,and girls average $300-$600/SHIFT.
iF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUIESTIONS,FEEL FREE TO ASK! ;)
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I worked at crazy horse ,vip for 5 years ,I travel in to work so it is well worth it I think seasoned dancers do best here as I brought a few girls in to work with me and the more articulate mature,experienced girl did the best although only 22 very smart and mature,I think all types of looks do well here,Iam typical blonde barbie type but the girls I have brought with me ranged from a red head to a canadian 5 feet 10 jet black hair,years before I had tried heavinly bodies which also has good money potential for a new dancer because you dont have to get into a conversation here because they dont alow you to sit down and talk to anyone also good for a girl who has the potential to over drink as you are only alloud around 3 drinks per shift,I also tried allstars and found it to be a nice club not as much money potential as vip but more upscale then h.b.I would say I am originaly from chicago and know it well and if you are fairly seasoned and a good conversationalist you will do best at vip,in the city you have the luxury of getting all the conventioniers and businessmen in town the cabs bring them directly to the clubs.
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Thanks Juliet and Michele for the info. I have heard that the Admiral and VIPs frown on tattoos but mine (2 of them) are pretty small and well done. Will that prevent me from working? Do I have to cover them up? I also have a few small piercings (tongue, nose) - should I take them out before going to the club to audition? Should I have my nails & toenails done before the audition?
I know it is hard to respond to this without seeing me, but I have read about this number rating thing on lots of posts and have absolutely no idea where I would be. Like I said, I am in very good physical shape (5'3", 105 lbs, about 34-24-34, pretty toned but not muscular) but I have small boobs, a small B cup. I am Asian but many people are confused about my nationality (even other Asians). I have been told my face is very beautiful and exotic looking; this is of course subjective. What is considered an 8 or 9? Someone that looks like a supermodel (tall, thin, big boobs, beautiful face)? Juliet, it seems you know the ins and outs of everything, would I be able to email you a photo of myself (clothed) so you can tell me your opinion of where I am on the scale? I feel uncomfortable posting any pictures of myself on the web, even clothed.
I wish I knew where I was at in terms of my dancing skills too. At the club I work at, I get a lot of compliments about my dancing and pole tricks but this is also a club with a tiny, narrow stage that doesn't allow for much dancing and very few girls know any pole tricks at all.
What do you mean by "full contact"? Does that mean the customers can touch anywhere they want, even the crotch and breasts? Is there actual sexual contact (including kissing/licking or touching the genital area)? Or is it more like couch/bed dances such as at Deja Vu?
I am currently employed elsewhere and have a few dancer outfits but it seems I may need to buy something else to audition. It seems a gown is mandatory at VIP's, what about Admiral? Also, I never got into wearing typical stripper shoes, I usually wear regular 3-4" heels. What shoes do most dancers wear in the nicer clubs? Do I need to wear pasties & a thong under a gown to audition at VIPs?
If I want to go check out the clubs before I audition do I have to bring a guy with me to get in?
This may be a really dumb question but I am used to working a very short shift. Do you usually take a break during an 8-hour shift to eat?
Do any of the clubs take out taxes for you or are you considered an independent contractor?
By the way, I looked around a bit more in the forum and did find other posts I missed before about Chicago clubs that did answer my questions. Sorry, Juliet, for making you post redundant information.
Phew, that was a long post. I am working at a pretty small club in a small town where it doesn't matter that much what you look like or wear or how you maintain yourself so I want to be prepared to work at a classy club in the big city. Thank you both again for taking the time to answer my questions. :)
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Tampopo,How long have you been dancing?ok I would definately take out thr piercings,and cover the tatoos,I only brought in a girl w/ tatoos once she had one that went across the bottom of her back and she covered it,use dermablend,by yourself a few nice gowns,noyhing see through,and yes you will fill out a w2and get payed5.15 an hour,not all girls op to get the paycheck when I worked but they may make you know,no contact on the dances,no leaning or touching of the cusomers or lap sitting,doent really matter how well you dance on stage the guys dont really pay attention as it is not a stage club infact a few years ago they had three stages,they took the other two out,you will ewar latex on your whole breast in a triangle shape they are very particular about how it is applied and will check it when you pay your house in the office before you go on the floor,also this may irritate youre breasts as did mine, if it does buy puffy paint,its available at any arts and craft store,just get nude or tan colored,this may be better than you can just pull out your own stuff and get ready and not have to get your little plate and wedgy from the club.Just relax and have fun dont worry so mch about it and you will do o.k.
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S orry about the spelling,typos just saw this,I really do know how to spell.
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Hi,
Alot of changes have been made at the Admiral as of last night.
You can where whatever you want now. (SHORTS,GOWNS,BIKINI'S )
There are now two shifts 6:30pm-1:00am
9:30pm-3:00am
House fees range from $90-$160
and you no longer have to cover tattoos.
If I were you I'd work at VIP's that's where I want to work but im too young ( :
If you want to work here I can ask Craig or Steve about you working here.
Just so you know the club is flooded with 18 year olds and men who don't speak english. The business type guys go to VIP's.
Allstars has auditions Tues -Friday during the day or Amateur night is Tuesday here.
(708) 409-9500
Hope this helps ( :
Im Amber
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Thank you very much Michele and bebegirl. I have to admit I am one of those borderline OCD types that wants to get everything right the first time and not fuck around. So you're probably right, Michele, that I need to relax. Thanks a lot for the info about the tattoos & pasties. I'm not sure if I have what the management wants to see at VIPs; it sounds like they favor blond & big tits but I am pretty confident of the way I look and will give it a shot anyway. To answer your question I have been dancing on and off for about 4 1/2 years. The latex doesn't ever fall off when you pull off your gown? So if it doesn't really matter how you dance, do they just hire you based solely on looks?
Bebegirl- hm, the clientele at the Admiral doesn't sound the greatest to me (also based on what I've read in other posts). I do actually speak Spanish and Italian so I tend to do well with customers that speak those languages but I don't really like dealing with the younger guys. I work at a small club and I am pretty much dying to get away from it and work at a place that draws higher end customers. I've never been to the nicer clubs so I don't know how I'd rate but I think I'm going to give it a shot. I guess from everything I've read VIPs is my first choice but if I don't make the grade there, I will probably go for Allstars or Admiral.
Thanks again for your help and input. :)
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Yes sometimes the latex does come off latter on in the night,you can just reaply it, I only ever had it come off maybe twice, just make sure you blow dry it completly before you get dressed,I am like you o.c.d. I want every thing right away ,info, money, ect,I have had to learn to relax,sometimes I am like a phsyco when I get on the fllor I want to do as many dances as I can without a second to breath,I dont even reaply my make up or comb my hair all night,afraid I might miss something,Iam trying to calm down too.I think you will like vip they will probably hire you if you speak and act in an intelligent maner,I have worked with two very prety asians there ,china I dont think shes there anymore though and kara,they are both petite like 5 feet3 100-105, so dont wory,and you will also do well being bilingual as some conventions are international,I once danced with a very charming venezualian,so good luck.
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Is vip a new club and do they have a website? Could I please get their number?
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You can also try working at club 390 it is in Chicago Heights