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I work at Follies in ATL, it is a nice club with AWESOME staff/management...and all the girls are great. The clientel tends to be Hispanic, Black and White, mainly blue collar and some whitecollar. I get a lot of trouble with the men about my lap dances, about 50% say that I dont grind enough...I mean, its bad enough that I am naked and rubbing against them. But they seem to want a real grinding their balls kind of lapdance, which I am not comfortable doing, even when I am drunk. How can I approach selling dances? Or should I try and get VIPs? The Vip is 100 for the dancer, 40 for the house for 30 minutes, and dances are 10. I had a good night on Sunday, with a VIP and made $270( $360 total, tipped out the rest)...but that is the only VIP I ever have done...
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You dont have to do anything you dont want to do. You are dancing nude. Is there any house rules?
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Oh some guys will bitch and moan "not hard enough". Yea... they probably want to get off! YUK.
Find out the house rules like TiNi said, and don't be easy to what guys want if you are uncomfortable doing so.
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LOL.. the other day I did four lap's for this guy. At the end he tries to look all disgruntled and polite, and he says "thank you, that was really nice, even though I could have gotten a lot more for eighty dollars." And I said "If you'd wanted a lot more you wouldn't have come here, babe."
I'm also not comfortable doing a lot of direct sitting in their lap grinding, so I do a lot of what I call booby grinding. Kneel between their legs, look at their package and lick your lips, then slooowly drag your chest over it, back and forth gently, and then lean on it and slide all the way up him so your standing up, leaning over him.
Also, you can try to make your dances more intense without the grinding. Let them feel like they've made some kind of deep emotional connection with you. Look really deep into their eyes, make little moaning noises, breath on their neck. Really, guys are very visual...
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Lena...bravo. I especially like the line whereas "if you'd have wanted more you wouldn't have come here..." I LOVE that line.
I too am NOT a grinder and have survived in grinder clubs with other talents, such as the intensity mentioned in Lena's posting. The Eyes, and close proximity, softly breathing in his ear, on his neck, always keeping in motion, keep it hightened and very visually stimulating punctuating the visual with the teasing of say that booby thing works wonders.
If a guy wants mechanical grinding till he unloads he AINT getting it from me. He can go look for that gal with the damp towel she hauls around with her in the club, oh UGH I am gonna go chuck............!! LOL!
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I wanted to add too that sometimes when guys think or know you are new they pull that shit on you - oh you arent gonna make any money dancing like THAT - or here, this is how you do it - or some such other line of shit. Another reason why I advocate lying in the club. About my name real or not how long I have been at dancing where I am from if I date men or women or WHATEVER, I dont owe anything to anyone above and beyond the dance. I am still very sociable but it is all part of the facade.
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Talking about the fantasy we all play....
You said you lie about how long you've been dancing etc. I've been doing this ever since I started at my new club with the customers UNLESS I know they know I danced at the other club before..... so here is my question.....
I say that I've been at the club I'm at for x weeks and that I only danced for a couple/few months at another club before.... is this long enough so that the customer knows I'm no newbie yet not old and "burnt out" etc.???
??? How long do you think is the ideal length of time a customer wants to hear you've been dancing? ???
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one rule that always applys.. if u are flexible its a plus. guys love to see pink. i find they love it if i sit in their lap facing them... place on leg stretched out over the rest of the couch... and the other up around thier neck... just sorta gyrate ur hips... they love that. another trick i just learned i used the little tables and put it just beyond thier feet once i finish the above move... put the other foot back behind thier head... lay my back back onto the table and place my hands on their knees... this way u can just sort of hold your butt just off thier body... but sway your hips and buck sort of as if engaging in the act... this way its very visually appealing to quench the sequal appetite... yet u dont have to feel any hard ons... lol.
im a newbie if anyone else knew... ive only been at it for two weeks... but i find these tricks get MANY second, third, and even fourth dances.
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oh and i forgot to mention... at my club we have very strictly enforced rules about grinding... no longer than 10 second intervals... so thats what leads many girls to learn new creative moves!
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You don't have to grind alot to give a good dance. We can't grind too much at my club during laps, so in order to sell more, you HAVE to make it sexy in other ways. Look at his face as much as you can during the dance. When you do sit on his lap, turn and look back at him with a naughty smile. Move slowly and sensually. Touch him all over - not just in the crotch area. Run your nails lightly down his arms and hands, then gently wrap your fingers into his while you lean back on him and maybe lightly run your nose on his neck. Kneel or bend down in front of him and run your nails down his legs to his ankles, gently pull his pant legs up and run your nails up his legs a little, then back out and run your hands up his legs almost to his crotch while looking into his eyes, lick your lips and smile. Then put your hands on his waist or chest and slowly slide up on him, rubbing your boobs on his body on the way up and gently squeezing his waist with your hands or rubbing his chest. As you slide up, make it as fluid as you can and keep going, moving back just enough to avoid shoving your boobs in his face but keeping them close, then come up until you're leaning over him. Put your hands on his shoulders and push back gently until you're standing, then wave your hips as you turn around, then bend over and run your fingers slowly up the back of your thigh. And so on.
There are a million things you can do to make the dance sexy and sensual without going overboard and risking getting in trouble. The most important thing is to look at them and enjoy it - your face will show if you're enjoying teasing them. You can do just about anything if you're looking at them with a smile and/or look of pleasure on your face. And let them look at you - guys are extremely visual, so move slowly enough that they can get a good look at you. When you turn around do it slowly and arch your back. If you have long hair, let it fall down your back as you arch. Then start to bend over, putting one hand on your buttcheek and gently running it down your leg as you bend. Don't slap your butt as that distracts them from the sensuality. Cup your boobs as you move in closer to them. Tweek your nipples a little. When you sit on their laps, lean back so they can look down the front your body, move your arms so your boobs squeeze together some, rub across your boobs with one hand. Let your boobs fall and run one hand down the front of your body to the top of your g-string and pull it up a little. And do it slowly!
Also things like running your nose up their necks and ears, breathing (not blowing) on their ears and if they're clean and you're comfortable with it, licking or nibbling their ears just a little are good. Sometimes I'll just run my teeth along an ear or bite it VERY slightly - it always gets a good response.
Finally, when you do grind, do it slowly with just enough pressure so they can feel you, but not so much you hurt them. Do it slowly and purposefully for a few seconds while looking back at them with a naughty smile - that's all it takes. Just enough to let them know you're there but not enough to get you into trouble.
You can do things like this and keep them panting for hours without grinding too much or touching the wrong places. Try to maintain your eye contact as much as possible, and keep moving because ANYTHING gets boring after a while. Just keep the movements slow.
And when the song is ending make sure you're in a sexy position, like just finishing a brief grind or sliding up his lap looking in his eyes or something like that, smile and ask kind of breathlessly if you can do another. Then if he agrees to another dance make sure you keep the heat and sensuality going or you won't get another from him, that night or maybe ever.
Sorry for the length of this post but I see SOOOO many girls who seem to have no clue how to do a good dance and just bounce around on guys' laps or stand and wave their hips and such. Even in a grind club, there is a proper way to do it and it's not just sitting on his lap and bouncing or gyrating!