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A sure thing...IS worth it
I hear alot of shit from customers in the clubs about how they are getting ripped off. That a regular lapdance isn't good enough. That paying $20 for a dance isn't worth it to them if the dancer won't let him touch her pussy or jerk/suck/fuck him off. But I ask you this............don't you feel that a sure thing is worth it? You may not be getting the extras you think you deserve for your $20 all the time from every single dancer, but you are getting exactly what you pay for. And that is a dance from a hot naked chick.
Look at it this way:
Mentally go through an average day in your life. The drive or bus/subway/cab ride to work. Your workplace. The place you go for lunch. The pub down the street where you meet the boys after work. The newsstand where you buy your paper. The subway/train station itself. The bookstore. The coffeeshop. The mall. Wherever you go in your day I want you to picture these places.
Then I want you to picture all the women you see in these places. From the elderly lady behind the coffee counter, to the middle-age mothers pushing stollers, to the business women in line with you, to the college girl with the pigtails, to her friend with the nose ring and spiked hair. Every last one of the women you see on any given day.
Now I want you to picture the response you might get if you asked these women to strip down to a thong and a smile and give you a dance. After all you're paying $20. That's too much money as it is right?
What do you really think the response would be? "Sure babe, let's get to it"? I doubt it. Probably something more along the lines of "Go fuck yourself." Or maybe, "Hell no, you pervert."
Anybody see where I'm going with this? Maybe these guys don't think a dance is worth it if the chick's not going to prostitute. That because it's a stripclub you should get sex. Think again. Maybe dancers have gotten more flexible with their rules and maybe some are just plain breaking the rules and prostituting. But that's not what a strip club is about.
A strip club is a place where it's a sure thing that guys/girls can go to watch hot chicks getting naked. You'll be hard pressed to find it anywhere else. And I think all you guys out there that complain ought to get down on your knees and thank your lucky stars that there are women in this world who choose to work in strip clubs. Women who for $20 will give you a hot naked show right in front of your face. Be grateful. Don't be an asshole. Thanks.
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Not sound like a kiss a**, but I liked the clubs much better when all of the "extras" were not going on all of the time. The quality of women has gone down in some of the clubs, because the good ones move on to somewhere that has not totally turned into a "extras" type atmosphere. I enjoy a good conversation with some dances from a beautiful women in-between. If I wanted to get laid, I would go to a regular bar and take someone home for the night.
Honestly, I enjoy the SC environment, because I can get attention from beautiful women without having to deal with the BS of dating. I am a single guy, which is not the most common thing in a SC. When I am ready to do the dating thing, then I look elsewhere. In the meantime, it is nice to relax and unwind without the BS.
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Blame it on the girls who supply these extras for $20. >:(
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Just so you know hockey_nut, you are a total kiss ass ;D ;)
I wish more guys thought about things like you do.
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I agree with you Hockey Nut. I thought I was the only one who actually *prefers* the "no extras" kind of a dance. The "extras" clubs have a really serious atmosphere and just aren't fun anymore. The whole experience is about fantasy, and "extras" just make it seem too "real." Now, I do like a little grinding and boobies-in-the-face-rubbing, but that's about it. Anything more makes me a little uncomfortable. (Besides, at 40, it's pretty rare that a dance even gets me going, and I haven't cum from dry-humping since I was about 15, so the kind of "extras" girls do most places around here such as an outside-the-clothes HJ just isn't that great a thrill.) In any event, I buy dances from girls who show on stage that they can really dance, not from high-mileage girls who can't even dance. And the fun really comes from getting lots of attention from a gorgeous and sexy girl who wouldn't give me a second look outside the club.
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Kittie what were you doing at 4:20? lol jk. I'm glad to be one of the guys who don't expect extras. I'm married and I really don't think I would want a dance to go that far. It would be very strange. I think of a dance to be as close to cheating as I can get. It's the experience of "cheating" but not cheating. Make cents?
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I don't mind "extras" but I don't need them to enjoy myself... and yess I enjoy a sure thing. to me going to a SC is like xmas, but the gifts open them selves.. :o
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Big Daddy nailed it right on the head - a lot of married guys go to strip clubs precisely because they can have an an enjoyable and erotic time with an attractive girl without having sex. If I accidently stumble into a club where extras are common I never return, it's not my thing. And I think $20 is a reasonable price for a good private dance. If I thought it was too expensive I wouldn't buy one.
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I'm in total agreement with all who replied to this post. I don't want the "extras" and won't go to clubs where they're too common. I can't say I won't go to any club where I've seen or been offered them, though. That would mean not going to ANY clubs in this area.
My wife an I like to go to strip clubs to enhance our own relationship (both physically and otherwise) by sharing this atmosphere that we both enjoy. And that, as Kittie noted is, "A dance from a hot naked chick."
I ain't putting any part of my body in any part of anyone else's body except my wife's. Riding that fine line between eroticsim and cheating is as far as either of us will go.
As for the clowns who bitch about $20 being too much for a dance, I wonder if they try to get out of paying full price at a restaraunt if today's meal wasn't quite as good as yesterday's? If you don't like the service, just don't go back. It's pretty damn simple really.
Finally, I think Kobi is absolutely correct about blaming the dancers who are performing the extras. Some girls around here have gotten so bad that they complain about those of us who pay and tip for $20 lap dances but don't want a $30 to $50 bj!
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My friend and I had this very same discussion a little while back. I just couldn't understand it when guys would come in and bitch non-stop about the prices of lapdances demanding more than what the usual was. I would also get pissed off if students would come in and wave their student cards under my nose and ask for a discount (it happened, they were obviously a bit clueless). I mean, don't you think the set price you pay for a dance is worth it?? I agree with Cupl4Strippers, you wouldn't dare do these things in most other places. It was beyond me. Some are just tight old farts, that's the way life goes.
Luckily in my old club, a guy only had to mention the word 'extras' to be met with strange looks. It was something us girls did not tolerate at all, it never went on thank goodness!
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Those who give and get extras should be booted ASAP.
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I think the guys who want a HJ/BJ/FS for a dance should get in the car and drive down to the local hooker corner and pick up one of the hoes walking the streets - see if they'll provide that service for $20, and if so, by all means take her up on it!
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I'm so glad you brought this up Kittie. The only problem though, is that I think most of the guys who post here are great and appreciate us. I wish we could get this message across to all the strip club patrons out there. A little more respect please!
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Kitty,
I think your analogy in the opening question is perfect. Nowhere else could I get a beautiful woman to strip down, treat me like a king and give me a dance for $20 ;) (not even Mrs. Spanky – remember I mentioned the treating me like a king part – LOL). The only better deal is tipping $1 for a stage dance. I might be wrong, but I feel awfully cheap tipping only $1 to a girl who is really giving me a nice stage dance - you know spends a little time in front of me and really tries to do a good job. I usually tip $2 - $5 on stage which I think is still a bargain. I do tip only $1 to girls who just go through the motions though.
Where the money adds up is when I get lost in the eyes of a private dancer and 5 dances turn into 10 and so on. Then the $200 for 30 minutes starts to get a little steep if I do it too often. But that’s on me if I choose to.
Girls, I've noticed comments where a regular customer suggests that they get discounts on a lot of dances. Is that normal? I usually get around 15 or so LDs with my ATF around once a week. I never thought of negotiating a rate other than the standard $20 per dance. I would feel very uncomfortable. In dealing with any service, whether it is a dancer or house painter, I take whatever price they give me as their best, then I either accept it or move on. I also tip my ATF well on stage and on top of the LD fees. Any advise on discounts? ???
Thanks...
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These guys are F***ing nuts! What girl in her right mind is going to provide these extras for $20. HA HA HA! I can't stand these losers that come to the club and they want you to go above and beyond a simple ld for $20. Most prostitutes don't provide those services for that small amount of change. Extras shouldn't be going on period, but come one girls why would you do it for 20 bucks. ???
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I have said it before and I'll say it again, and I don't care if it offends: Girls who provide extras in the clubs are little more (if at all) than streetwalkers who just came in off the street.
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Spanky,
I've never negotiated for lapdances. In some clubs it's against the rules, in other clubs it would mean not making money on some of the dances (ie, if I give the club ten out of every twenty dollar dance, I wouldn't make any money at all giving discounts), and in other clubs it might be feasible.
But if she doesn't offer it, she doesn't offer it. Asking for it will only insult her and piss her off.
Lena
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If I have a regular that spends on me regularly, I'll just throw in one or two free dances and tell him that "these are on me" with a big smile. No negotiation, it is just my treat to a good customer. ;D
As an aside, I had these guys who specifiacally said to me "So, do you or your friends do any "extras"? (I had an overwhelming sense of sleaze at this point) I patted the ringleader on the head and said," you guys have been on the internet, haven't you!?" ::)
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A. Where are these clubs where the dances are just $20? At the clubs I frequent they're 30. At one, 25, but I usually pay 30 there anyway.
B. Anybody expecting to get actual sex for that price is nuts.
C. And I agree with the other guys here, I'm not looking for sex and wouldn't accept it if it were offered. A lap dance is as close to cheating as I want to get. And please don't grind as if you expect me to have an orgasm or something, I'm 46 years old and it ain't gonna happen.
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Originally Posted by FONDL link=board=8;threadid=3919;start=msg45529#msg45529 date=1069749215
Big Daddy nailed it right on the head - a lot of married guys go to strip clubs precisely because they can have an an enjoyable and erotic time with an attractive girl without having sex. If I accidently stumble into a club where extras are common I never return, it's not my thing. And I think $20 is a reasonable price for a good private dance. If I thought it was too expensive I wouldn't buy one.
At the club where my wife works, the girls aren't allowed to wear glitter and there are a bunch of other restrictions so they don't leave incriminating evidence on married men.
She doesn't care if I go to clubs or not, probably because she knows I'm coming home to her. Personally, I'd rather spend time with her than some random naked chick.
Well, unless the random naked chick is a tall redhead...then I vacillate. lol
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married guys who love and respect their wives are my best customers.
They want to suspend disbelief for awhile and be that unattainable rock star with his own personal groupie. They want her to look longingly in his eyes and make him feel like the most important, sexy, charming person in the room....all while she is charming him, so he feels like this attractive, charismatic woman wants nothing more to simulate sex acts on him (which are technically not cheating, so he can feel okay about it)....and then to end it on his terms so he can go back to his every day life like nothing happened.
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"They want to suspend disbelief for awhile and be that unattainable rock star with his own personal groupie. "
Yeah, that's pretty much it, except that in my head it's the girl who's the rock star, the dance is the performance, and I'm just one of her legions of fans (who got a really good seat).
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Originally Posted by Emily link=board=8;threadid=3919;start=msg57367#msg57367 date=1071910060
married guys who love and respect their wives are my best customers.
They want to suspend disbelief for awhile and be that unattainable rock star with his own personal groupie. They want her to look longingly in his eyes and make him feel like the most important, sexy, charming person in the room....all while she is charming him, so he feels like this attractive, charismatic woman wants nothing more to simulate sex acts on him (which are technically not cheating, so he can feel okay about it)....and then to end it on his terms so he can go back to his every day life like nothing happened.
Exactly Emily, I couldn't have said it better! :yay:
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except the "product/service" isn't necesssarily more contact....many guys would be thrilled with more time or more compassion or more attention.
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Emily, I agree completely. When I go to a club I'm mostly looking for company, someone attractive and interesting who will sit and talk for awhile. I buy dances mainly to cpmpensate her for her time. If all I get is a dance or two I consider the trip to be disappionting regardless of the amount of contact.