can they like.. rub your boobs n stuff? I dunno if thats illegal or not.
just want to make sure..
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can they like.. rub your boobs n stuff? I dunno if thats illegal or not.
just want to make sure..
One club I worked in had a sister club upstairs that was nude, no liquor, I worked there occasionally too, and have been hanging out there a lot, even after parting ways employment-wise since they are open after hours. They allow touching breasts and derriere but not elsewhere.
If the other dancers aren't letting the guys do this, you shouldn't either, because 1) they (dancers)won't like you and 2)you can get in trouble--they will tell on you. 3)if it's illegal you could get arrested. Also if you don't want it, you shouldn't have to allow it, but if its standard there you may need to find another club.
Find a couple of the cooler dancers in your club and talk to them about it, they should fill you in on what is normal.
Djoser
Or if you have a housemom, try to ask when she is alone. Also, any good manager should be more than happy to let you know what the exact letter of the law is. :)
My club it is illegal. Only touching on the womans leg from knee down and upper back, hair. We can touch a guys thigh, but not inside his thigh. Shoulders, arms, below knees hair face is all cool for a dancer to touch. No breasts ass or vagina for the guys.
Since i don't do laps i still listen to what managemant tells the girls not to allow. And for me on stage, i let guys touch where allowed. Pamela
Whenever I go to new club, I always ask a dancer what her rules are in the LD or VIP room. I once had a dance with a lovely lady wearing a sexy blue G-string and top. She simply told me "just don't touch anything blue" :D I got the message and had a wonderful time.
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Whenever I go to new club, I always ask a dancer what her rules are in the LD or VIP room. I once had a dance with a lovely lady wearing a sexy blue G-string and top. She simply told me "just don't touch anything blue" :D I got the message and had a wonderful time.
LOL i like the way she said that.
The legality of breast touching varies by state and city in the USA. Beyond the letter of the law, there are certain clubs which have rules against breast touching even though it is technically legal in the area where the club is located. On the flip side, there are quite a few clubs where breast touching is permitted by club management, even encouraged, despite the fact that it is technically ILLEGALl in the area where the club is located.
As a customer, I go by a simple rule. If the dancer doesn't litterally grab my hands and place them where she pleases, then its hands at my side.
Besides that, I really don't get anything out of touching the dancer. I'm there to enjoy her show, not be part of it. If she knows how to make that dance feel personable then I'll enjoy it.
A good rule of thumb is that if there is alcohol served generally the touching is nil or to a much lesser degree than in juice bars.
However this is not always true, I have found this to be the case.
It depends on what mangement of the club "condones". I am not quoting what is legal.
We all know that grinding and tochy feeliness is what guys want. it's called goin with the flow. Don't allow it if the other girls aren't doing it and the bouncers reprimand you for it. keep in mind though that some bouncers get "tipped" to turn their head to a "good dance".
It all depends on the club. Don't do more in the club than anyone else is allowing.
Of course there will always be clubs that allow boob touching and others that do not,however, many girls go far and beyond what ANY clubs rules are. Not only is boobie touching illegal in some places, but sex is illegal all over, and yet girls still do it.
If you want to know what your club rules are, just ask a dancer, or the housemom, or management.
I don't know of any club where breast touching is allowed. At my club the manager will suspend a girl if caught, though they actually rarely 'notice'. Its the other girls who see it and get pissed and make sure the managemet does their job to repremand such behavior. It only makes it harder for the legit dancers to make money when some girls will go that sleazy extra mile.
my general rule is
i start of on the first dance legs but thighs etc etc
2nd dance and each dance after that i get friendlier and friendlier :D when i reach the level where she wants to stop and hold she will let me know
Exactly what do you mean by friendlier and friendlier??? Don't you have any personal boundaries and respect for the rules of the club, or more importanly the dancer, whose services you are enjoying?? I know that as a dancer, I am willing to give customers who are gentlemen better lap dances than ones that try to practically molest me in the VIP room. I appreciate the men that are able to act like gentlemen and not try to take off my g-string or fondle, lick, etc etc what is known to be off limits to the both of us.Quote:
2nd dance and each dance after that i get friendlier and friendlier :D when i reach the level where she wants to stop and hold she will let me know
as is noted here many times by teh dancers in here
each state each city each club each dancer hs diffrent rules for contact
i progress on my friendliness scale till she says ok hold there
This is what I've done, in my limited club experience. For me, it's no fun it I think she doesn't want to dance for me, and grabbing my hand and telling me what to do is a sure sign, in my eyes, that she wants to be there and is enjoying the dance as much as I am.Quote:
As a customer, I go by a simple rule. If the dancer doesn't litterally grab my hands and place them where she pleases, then its hands at my side.
I go by a few dictums.
1). I assume first that touching sensative areas are not allowed. No one wants to be groped, and Im sure most if not all dancers spend their time fending off guys who dont listen. It is not a dissapointment to not get to touch sensative areas.
2). I ask whats the rules and abide by them. Period. Rules are rules, both house and personal, and are in place for the dancers protection AND the establishemts protection. Who am I to jeopardize that?
3). On the rare occasion a dancer moves my hands to sensative areas, I be cool about it. I'm getting something nice and pleasurable. I wil enjoy it while I can and show I appreciate it very much.
Sometimes, in the heat of battle, Ill ask "is it alright to touch etc etc". A "no" answer does not detract from the experience. As far as I can tell, it is appreciated that I ask instead of grabbing and hoping its alright. Dancers are human beings, after all.
PJ
Well, you know, it helps to know the rules beforehand and even if you're in a high contact club it helps to let the dancer guide you through her body parts ;), just to avoid further embarrassment.
As a dancer, I do two things...
I ask management what is and is not allowed. I then watch the other dancers themselves in PD to see what they do. If I do a move in a PD and management calls me on it... then I just tell them the truth... I was just trying out a move I've seen other dancers do and won't do it anymore since they don't like me doing it. I always say to them "Thank you for the feedback. It is always nice to know what exactly is and is not allowed"
Of course a little bit of good acting goes a long way in this so you can make out you're totally innocent etc LOL
:D
I am not actually sure of what is "legal" in San Francisco Strip Clubs but touching all but the kitty is the norm in a non-private lapdance. During a private lapdance hj's are the norm with sex being common. I know San Francisco is uniquely tolerant of this because 50 miles south in Silicon Valley, touching is not allowed at all.
First post! Yay me!
As a customer, my first assumption (until proven otherwise) is that the dancer's breasts and bikini area are off-limits. I will usually "test" an area of a dancer's body (shoulders/neck, outer thighs, etc.) by lightly brushing it with my hand, or asking if she minds where my hands are; where she lets me go is up to her. I don't go for the outright grope (well, unless she lets me <hehe>).
i have to agree wth the customers who say they ask before touching...I appreciate those who ask much more than those who just grab..I actually had one today that I told twice where he couldn't touch. When I went to leave on the third time he tried something- first, he tried to say he didn't hear me before. Then, he tried to ask me if I'd try another dance with him.
Basically, tho, most girld would rather you ask instead of assume that everything's up for grabs (literally).
I always ask a girl what her rules are and abide by them. There is so much variation you have to ask. Just don't be misleading when you explain what you do or don't allow as some girls do. I've been to clubs where you couldn't touch anything. Ive been other places where touching everywhere is not only allowed but encouraged. And this variation can sometimes occur within the same town or state (I'm speaking East Coast by the way.) I think each girl should set her own rules according to what she's comfortable with. If you're fun to be with you don't need to allow a lot of touching to make money. Not every customer is looking for a lot of touching (unless that's what the club is known for.)
Being deprived of touch,whenever i get a chance its pretty nice.
But on a more serious note you can spread all sorts of bacteria touching,in fact on some occasions i really hate it when the girl gets too close.Dont want to gross anyone out here but it scares the heck out of me when the girl will rub her boobs in my face or goes cheek to cheek.I mean,well im clean and everything but in the back of my mind is this real gross thing called "Acne".So when this rubbing is going on i'm dieing inside for fear of giving the girl a,*gasp*,Zit ..ewwww!I was telling a friend the other day that they should put alchahol rub dispensers in the mens room,lol."would you like a dance?""sure"as im rubbing my face clean ...heheh
I've been to a massage parlor where the girl will let you touch her body,minus the gina/boobs but she makes you wash with anti-bacterial stuff first.
If you are a dancer all I can say is respect yourself! In a private room you let them touch what you are comfortable with. With me that means leg and back if your lucky- LOL. Dont ever let anyone touch you that makes you feel uncomfortable and cheap- You can make money elsewhere from another customer.
If you are a customer have respect for the dancer. If she pushes your hand away dont try it again!! It means she is uncomfortable and you are putting her in a weird position.