HOW TO YOU GET AND KEEP CUSTOMERS TO TAKE YOU TO THE CHAMPAGNE ROOM AND KEEP THEM COMMING BACK. I HAVE SEEN GIRLS IN THE CHAMPAGNE ROOM FOR MULTIPLE HOURS A SHIFT AND ALL THEY WOULD DO IS TALK?
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HOW TO YOU GET AND KEEP CUSTOMERS TO TAKE YOU TO THE CHAMPAGNE ROOM AND KEEP THEM COMMING BACK. I HAVE SEEN GIRLS IN THE CHAMPAGNE ROOM FOR MULTIPLE HOURS A SHIFT AND ALL THEY WOULD DO IS TALK?
no....at my club customers that take gurls to champagne room don just TALK TO THEM.TRSUT! ME!:)
KATRINA yes I agree with NYLA. Many girls once in the VIP rooms do give dances but even I have had customers proposition me by flashing large amounts of money. This is the case mostly in NYC where VIP rooms go for like $600 and up. I know of a few girls who work in NYC and so dirty deeds in the VIP rooms all night long.
Some girls are lucky and they have a customer who wants to 'take care' of them. These customers will spend money in the VIP just to talk.
If a customer wants to go in the champagne room, trust me, he'll mention it before you do. ;) And once you got him in there, and you're really flirty and sexy, you can keep him in there for hours!! ;D But, no dirty deeds for me. I'm all talk and straight lap dancing. :) ;)
It's partly finding the right customer. Look for the ones who drink Heineken, or some of the more expensive liquors, or sometimes bottled water. Nice shoes, nice watches. They may dress in very casual clothes, but the guys with money almost always have on nice shoes and watches, and drink something other than Budweiser or Coors. Also look for those who have cc tabs with waitresses. Be friendly with waitresses and bartenders, ask who seems to have/spend money. Tip them when they lead you to a guy who spends money on you. They'll remember and send you more business.
Once you're with a guy, and he seems to have money to spend, be friendly and flirty. Put your hand on his knee, smile when you talk with him, look at his eyes once in a while, hook your arm in his, stroke his arm/hand/thigh, scratch his back lightly, touch his hair, etc. These are all small things you can do briefly while you're talking to him to make him feel good and make him feel like you like him. Have pleasant conversation. Don't complain about anything. Be a happy girl. Money guys have enough stress with their jobs and likely with their wives also, they come to the club to relax and have a good time - be the girl they can relax with. Don't push them immediately, but just chill and have a drink and talk with them for a few minutes. If you feel he has money to spend, it is good to invest a few extra minutes with him before asking for dances. If after 3 or 4 songs, the guy hasn't mentioned dances or champagne room to you, just casually ask him if you can take him 'somewhere more comfortable to play'. Something like that - I also use variations of this line: "So can we go upstairs and play", "Do I get to dance for you now", etc. He will probably ask what is the deal / cost. At that point you should have your hand on him somewhere, preferably gently stroking his arm or thigh/knee - wink and tell him the two of you can spend some quality time in the champagne room for ___ time for ___ price. If he's going to dance with anyone that night, and you've used these techniques well, and he finds you even remotely attractive, he's 99% certain to go with you. He may want to have a regular lapdance or two first, so be prepared to give him a great dance - if he likes your dance, and has the money to spend he'll go to the champagne room. Not all guys want a 'test dance' first, some do.
Once you get him in the champagne room, if there's a champagne waitress or host, you should be able to work with them to keep him in there for more than one session. The waitress / host may get a commission for each session and/or tips from the customer based on the tab (and a tip from you if they help you keep him there longer), so it is usually in their interest to help you keep him there past the first session.
During the time you're there, snuggle up with him, stroke his belly, head, arm, whatever. Give him your best lapdances. Light his cigarette if he smokes. When you're ready to have a sip of your drink, get his from the table and offer it to him as well. Always keep the conversation pleasant. You love your job. Don't ask too many personal questions, but be interested when he talks about himself. Ask some questions when he mentions something interesting, but don't ask too much about his exact position or things that would indicate his level of pay. Guys don't like to feel like you're trying to figure out their net worth. Mention fun things about yourself sometimes, or things you have in common with him - you like going to the beach, love your pet, surfing the net, whatever - keep it light and fun, nothing too personal. Never talk about your SO.
Don't watch the clock, but you should be able to tell that time is about to end soon: maybe the waitress/host comes to let you know and you see him/her coming. I am used to being there and my internal clock can predict without ever glancing at a watch that time is almost up. When you know time is almost up, either be doing some of your best lapdance moves or be cozied up to him, maybe with your legs across his lap and an arm around him, or something along those lines. When he is told time is up, either you or the waitress or host should be asking if he wants to renew. If he doesn't have some specific reason to leave, and you have shown him a great time, he will likely stay again. If he doesn't renew that time but is a local or frequent traveller to your area, he will likely become a repeat customer for you. Just remember to always be a happy girl during your time with him, be attentive and kiss him on the cheek and thank him, wish him a good night when he leaves. And smile.
It takes quite a bit of finesse to keep guys in the champagne room for long periods of time, but once you find your groove, it's not very difficult. The guys who have that kind of money to spend are not going to be too hard to handle. They mainly just want to relax and have a nice time, without bs. They like to be treated well, but not feel like you're trying too hard to kiss their asses. They like good dances and pleasant conversation with girls who can talk about something other than how crappy the week has been, drugs, partying, shopping, who at the club is an asshole, SOs, etc.
HTH and Good luck!
from my expierence, i can get any guy to go with me in the vip,if you work in a no touch club like i do then when they ask "what's the difference in the champange room compared to here" you simply state you can touch up there boobs and but only.
In my former dancer days ( 2.5 years ago) I did anywhere from 1- 5 VIP's nightly. Many of the other girls I worked with had a 3-10 average. Some girls did more some did less. Many, many times I did nothing more than talk. Expense accounts were more common and slightly more flexible, true. However since getting back into dancing the past 6 months, most of the VIP's I've done have been talking rooms again. I never promise more than I'll deliver. I've found that by either giving off a sweet "It's your loss" vibe to a guy who declines and/or checking back with him later I'm able to get in. I'll say 50% of the guys who take me into VIP have told me no about something that night. Whether no to a first or multiple dance or even a VIP, they usually approach me later about it. Then you have the guys who take you up on your offer right away. But just like I ask everyone I meet for a dance, I ask everyone for a VIP.
I could never really let a guy touch for money like that.I say that it more private and comfortable in the champagne lounge and if they ask me what happens back there i say you have to wait and see if they want specifics i usually say if ur good to me im good to you so im not stuck in aposition where they think they can put there hands on me.i usually make out pretty good. ive always been tipped more than 100 or kept back for more than an hour. You dont have to have them touch you to keep them spending money. or if u dont mind thats ur deal a friend of mine always says you cant touch me but i can touch you.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkness link=board=9;threadid=4105;start=msg49227#msg49227 date=1067546631
There is no sex in the Champain room LOL
Why do you want the champagne room anyway? At the clubs I frequent, the dancers tell me that they make more money doing multiple lap dances than they will for an equivalent amount of time spent in the champagne room, because the club takes a larger cut.
Besides, champagne doesn't taste that great anyway.
whats an SO??
SO = Significant Other, which you probably already knew. It took me a minute to process it in that context too.
I think champagne rooms aren't worth it if you just sit there and have the dancer do her stuff. There should be moderate to high contact to make it worthwhile. Forget the champagne; I'm not that moronic nor I'm willing to run into debt just to buy champagne and spend time with a dancer. I'll have champagne with friends and family in my normal life; lap dances are the way to go in SC's ;)
Well champagne rooms are nice, the ones that are1200 an hr or more!i wishhh it was sooo easy..:)!
that's how i feel! but you can seriously say that that you could never let a guy touch you for money,but you'll take your freakin clothes off for them!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by darkness link=board=9;threadid=4105;start=msg65468#msg65468 date=1074807296