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Every dancer should be made to read this post before being allowed to register on this site. Great info.
One example of how it can pay to not judge someone by how they look. One slow night I approached an older guy. He wasn't dirty or smelly, but by his clothes you'd figure him to be some kind of welder or factory worker. Turns out he owned his own machine shop. A very large profitable machine shop. ;)
He was looking for some entertainment and distraction since his wife was out of town. He spent a ton of money on me that night and came back a few other times as well. He said that I was the only girl to even approach him that first night. I've said it before, the guys with fancy clothes and a high income, are not necessarily the guys with money to spend. Their wife may be home watching every nickle. A lot of times the self employed, salespeople or other types like that may actually have more money to spend, even though they may not make as much money.
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You're absolutely right Destiny. There are times where you need to size people up quickly because of the environment, and not every time should you judge a book by its cover. Millionaire's wear jeans and a t-shirt too you know. Have you ever seen how Bill Gates dresses? I'm no authority on men's fashion, but hey, Bill, come on already! :)
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LOL bill gates....always with the sweaters!
Anyways, I had a small question coming from talking to dances as Paris noted that saying "do you wanna play with me" isnt such a great idea for those no contact clubs. Thats whats its like here...is there anything better I can say thats fun and playful to get them to buy a dance? I was thinking "ready to have some fun now?" er something along those lines...????
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Originally Posted by DancerWealth
You're absolutely right Destiny. There are times where you need to size people up quickly because of the environment, and not every time should you judge a book by its cover. Millionaire's wear jeans and a t-shirt too you know. Have you ever seen how Bill Gates dresses? I'm no authority on men's fashion, but hey, Bill, come on already! :)
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho...otos/cuban.jpg
Would you approach this jerk in the club?
He's Mark Cuban, owner of the Dallas Mavericks and a billionaire.
;)
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a good idea would be to ask to doorman or bouncer who has alot of cash (make sure you tip them extra if you do well)
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^ and the waitresses. Guys willing to spend money will often consistently tip the waitresses, to ensure that they get good service over the night. I will always tip a few bucks every time I get a drink.
(This is in Australia, where the standard tip is 0% of your bill - waitresses make around $20-$25/hour in standard food service here, I have no idea what the rate is in SCs. Regardless, they don't need tips to supplement their income. In the States, I guess ask who is tipping more than normal.)
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[QUOTE=Tina]. And when you get off stage DON'T go to the dressing room. IMMEDIATELY get out there and work the floor, starting out with the customer who gave you the most eye contact on stage first. if stage tips were slow, walk around and ask for tips AS SOON as you get off stage. I don't care if the other girls don't do it , you do it!!!
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How do you word this? "SInce you couldn't get off your ass to come see my stage show, woudl you mind giving me my tip NOW???" }:D
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i often say 'you can show your appreciation for my stage show after the fact' when guys say i was so cool on stage. and then i hold out my gstring or garter. that usually results in tippage. if they don't say anything, i chat for about a minute and then mention that they can show appreciation. some nights i just outright grab some ones when guys have a stack on the table and say 'aw, for me, baby?' or something similar. that works pretty well, also without actually coming across as greedy, go figure. it also works for dollar dances, resulting in 3 or so ones per 15 second dance, which is not too bad for dollar dancing.
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i often say 'you can show your appreciation for my stage show after the fact' when guys say i was so cool on stage. and then i hold out my gstring or garter. that usually results in tippage. if they don't say anything, i chat for about a minute and then mention that they can show appreciation. some nights i just outright grab some ones when guys have a stack on the table and say 'aw, for me, baby?' or something similar. that works pretty well, also without actually coming across as greedy, go figure.
maybe it's just me, but this seems a little too brazen. I would never swipe a guy's money from a table... if he wants you to have it, he'll tip you. Then, if that move pisses him off (which I can imagine it would...I would certainly be perturbed) the chance of selling to him is BLOWN.... for a couple of ones.
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Im lucky that our DJ's work hard to promote us. Theyre great guys and they tend to work very hard for us. One of our lead dj's is so good to us, he'll do whatever it takes to help us make more money and often when we tip him he tries to give some of it back. Generally every girl will give him like 5-10 bucks.
They announce private dances in between sets as hes calling the next 5 girls up.
When I do have to hustle it's usually on reallly busy nights when the dj's get distracted with all of the bachelor parties etc. Some girls whine about this but its not really that they dont try to still work for us they just get busy like we do.
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maybe it's just me, but this seems a little too brazen. I would never swipe a guy's money from a table... if he wants you to have it, he'll tip you. Then, if that move pisses him off (which I can imagine it would...I would certainly be perturbed) the chance of selling to him is BLOWN.... for a couple of ones.
nah, it's really not when i do that, it's all very playful and silly and jesting. at the very least, it has gotten some guys to spend who usually just bring in a stack of ones and don't tip anyone with it, and sometimes i get dances later from the interaction (or more dances from someone who is already buying). it's just a modified variation of the tip walk, really, which some girls do on slow nights.
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Miabella, thats a good one. If a guy leaves his ones on the table and is cocky with you about a tip, he deserves to have his ones "taken".
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I remember one night for me was really bad I worked the room talked to every guy and they all said no( I am not one to take no for an answer but it was a freak night) I was about to go home but something in my mind told me to keep trying so I went around again and a guy will a black Amex spent a fuck load of money on my friend and I, so you never know there might be a black Amex waiting for you to find it. keep trying.
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I've never actually seen a black amex card :'( >:( :'( >:( :'(
But always have my radar on and keep my eyes open ;D
seriously though I agree 100% with colleen...you need to hit the floor and work it! work it! work it! ASAP once you get off stage while they are still into you, and wound (hopefully) from your stage show...this always used to work for me...at least for one dance right away...if not several...to me getting the 1st one is the challenge and then would just move right on to the people in his/her group b walking him/her back to their table and saying thank you to the cus who bought and then just ask the table "who's next" or take one of them by the hand and say something like "your turn stud" and head for the dance area or say something like that...and assume the sale and start taking them over there...just my .02
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Last night there was a guy who almost left because nobody had talked to him. I happened to catch him going towards the door and told him he looked like someone I knew, an hour and $200 later he let me know that he was about to leave because he was disappointed. He said he even fanned money out on the bar and the bartender didn't even give him attention. Lucky me, he might come back, you never know.
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Showgirlschloe that has happened to me many a time.
I'm not trying to crack a whip with my post here, but merely am commenting on what lots of guys have told me and comments I have read from guys complaining that no one will approach them.
I really think a lot of girls who aren't the salesperson type are afraid of rejection.
Colleen, asking for stage tips after your stage is called a tip walk. I used this approach for a month when working in Anchorage AK and it made me an extra $630.
Just go up to the guys and say "Tip for my stage show"? If you hit 15 guys and only 7 of them tip, that adds up. Most of the ones who won't are broke young guys or tightwads.
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what do u do if its just one person (not a group) sitting there and he rejects you? doesnt want to tip? what do u say/do?
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Just move on to the next guy.
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You approach everyone without exception, unless they're sitting with another dancer. But be respectful, watch for customers who are looking around, maybe looking for a waitress, and see what you can do to get one for them. Ive gone to customers and asked if they needed a waitress and when they say yes tell them youll bring one back.
Watch for guys leaving the club, if you happen to be by the door approach them as they leave and if they llok like maybe they didnt have a good time well maybe you can change that as someone posted above.
Look at every customer as an equal person with equal amounts of money to spend. Dont class them together and you will see your income go up. Soon those 200-300 dollar nights become 1200-1500.
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Here's a good tip I learned in departement stores that works for strippng; NO doesn't always mean NO.
-Sometimes they say "Maybe later..." (I hate that!) Then I say, "why would want to put off a good thing when you can have it now"
-Then they could say something like "let me finish my beer" .... you say : "you can bring your beer in the VIP with you if you like!"
-Then if they are still a little reluctant say something sweet like " Come on I wont hurt you!"
-And if they still say "maybe later" (arrrgh!) Give it some time and GO BACK to that table, for a quick "are you ready for me now?" with a sexy smile on your face.
Usually, if you were charming enough guys, somewhere along that process, will give in to your charm and get a couple dances from you. But remember its not 100% , but at least when you go home at night, you will know that you did your best and I guarantee that will show in wallet!!!
Remember, be positive. It's not you they're rejecting it's the dance. People have different tastes and budgets and you have to respect that.
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tina, (my name is tina too, go fig ;)) all of your advice i've seen on this forum is A+ and i've noticed a difference in my earnings since i've followed it!!! keep posting girl!
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^^^^ DITTO, Tina has brought up things that I have forgotten and put away. You're quite a motivator woman!
Thnx! ;D
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Originally Posted by Lena
If I get no from every single guy in the room, I'll go back in the dressing room, drink my bottled water, fix my make up, tell myself how beautiful I am, pamper myself a little, go talk to someone who makes me happy or call someone on my cell that makes me happy, and then go back out there.
It's important not to base your personal value on how much money you make or how many dances you get. Just look at yourself and know that you are incredible, then go tell everyone else :-)
Lena
Yes this. Sometimes I'll also go outside for a cigarette (to get outta the club) or I will talk to one of the managers or bouncers that I like and make jokes with just to get my self esteem back up.
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Old thread but on the grabbing notes bit. This ass kept handing me a five and pulling it back. Over and over. So I took a ten off his stalk and walked away. He laughed and went, 'Dude, the stripper owned me!'