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What should I do?
Hi Ladies,
I went dancing at my club for my second day now. I have to say that its so slow and there are so many girls that I am really depressed about not making much $$ and even contemplating just going back to the ole 9-5 job. I am talking under $100.00 for 5-6 hours of my time. There are new girls coming in all the time. Then there are the old girls. Then it seems like there are no that many guys at the club. I don't know if I seem shy, I feel confident on stage, but then when I walk around and approach guys in all kinds of way..ie.., want some company?, Hi cutie can I dance for you.? .
What the heck am I doing? Are there times when you just hang out for hours and just do stage dancing? I live in AZ so its a slow time right now and girls keep telling me it will pick up one September (winter) comes. I just don't know about the mean time. Maybe I should go try a small club where there are not that many girls. Not to sound conceited, I am a cute girl and I work out a lot. So that parts not an issue.
Can anyone offer me what a better approach is? I don't want to seem like a pester when half the other girls asked the guy for a dance. I am really on the fence and I am really trying to keep an open mind. Maybe I am too nice to the guys and need to be more aggressive with my approach. But how? What do you talk about? I have had conversations about my college classes, maybe I am being to intellectual with them and they don't want that. I don't know what to do. Thanks in advance for any advice or comments. ???
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You answered your own question. There aren't any customers there. I suggest trying a different club. Summer is slower than the other seasons and this summer has been the slowest I have ever experienced in my four years of dancing. I think its because the economy is so unstable, people are afraid to spend their money. Good Luck
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It depends on the club. There are clubs that can be slow and you can still make money because all you need is someone to take you in the champagne room. Then there are clubs where all you do is lapdances so you have to do volume to make money. Personally, I would rather be trying to sell a $250 dance to 10 or 20 rich guys than trying to sell 20 $20 dances to 100 broke kids, but that's just me. Every type of club has their own game.
If you've only been there two days, I would give it a little longer. You might make under a hundred all week, but then make three or four hundred on fridays and saturdays. Or you might make more money there after you've been there longer.
If the other girls are just walking around saying "wanna dance?" then try sitting down and actually talking to them for a couple minutes. Compliment them. Then look into their eyes and tell them that you want to dance for them. If they say no pout for a second and then say "that's okay, I love you anyways" then tell them you have to get back to work and ask if they want you to come back and check on them later.
Also, if your just selling couch dances... don't just do one, make them get 4 or 5 while they're back there! Heat the dance up towards the end, then kneel between their legs and lean on them with your boobs against them, look in ther eyes and ask if they want another one. No red blooded male can say no.
Lena
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The clubs I've been to in AZ the girls suffer from no personality disorder. Out of all the times I've gone out I could count on one hand the number of girls that have sat down and talked, the rest just do the "Wannadance? No, ok." routine, then walk back to the bar and hang out. I can't speak for every man out there, but I know if a girl isn't interested in me, there is no way I'm going to drop my money on her. If she looks bored doing her floor show, other lap dances, or talking to me, then why should I waste both her time and my own. Don't think that guys aren't watching you every second you are out on the floor. From the moment we walk in we are trying to decide which girl gets the majority of the money in our pocket, just make sure you are giving a good impression. If you don't want to seem like a pester, look around to see which guys are checking you out, because they could be turning down the other girls waiting for you to come over. Also, don't just nail a guy the second he walks in the door, give him time to unwind, relax, get drunk (if there is a bar), and think it over. Most guys don't want to drop all their money in the first ten minutes, cause then they have to take off after. Talk to a guy when he first comes in, and then ask for that dance later, cause then he doesn't think your just grabbing for his wallet.
Things always pick up in AZ during the winter because everyone runs away from the heat in the summer. School is getting back in and the snowbirds are going to be here soon, so that extra influx of money into the economy should perk business up everywhere.
Plus, even if you make $100 for five hours of work, that's still $20 per hour. Don't go for that 9-5 job unless it pays as much.
Hope this helps.
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;) Thanks everyone for your helpful advice. I must be emotional with the full moon. ::) I 'll hang in there!
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slow sesion
I have to come to the diffence of AZ girls. I dance in Tempe/Scotsdale, AZ. I admit some of my co-works are slow . But I try my hardest to bring some excitment in to my club. I haven't dance anywhere else but Florida, but I have gotten offers. Az isn't that bad. Go to BFE Florida.
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First, pay CLOSE attention to what Lena said!
Second, August is a lousy month, and this is a lousy time (business travel down, etc.). The really great paying customers, in my humble opinion (and some will disagree) are the traveling business guys.
You will ALSO want/need to cultivate a regular clientile. Some guys travel to the same town on business regularly and come to the same club every time they're there. When you find a guy who's hot, let him know when you work. Some girls even have web sites and newsletters! (I'm not kidding!)
Also, let's face it, the club dancing can also just be the basis for getting into other aspects of the business, like private parties and such. You can do as much or as little of that as you want.
Finally, are you working the best club in town? Some clubs I know are more for learners, then when you get the routine down pat, you can move up to a better club. Keep your ears open. ;)
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Smile, smile, smile!!
Look and BE happy to be there.
I work in Phoenix, in a small club that has been around for 30 years. I get $5.00 a dance and make $300-$500 on ANY given night. Monday night there weren't more than 6 guys from 7pm-11pm, I still made over $400.
I can't tell you how many times a night I hear, wow, you look like you're having fun, or great smile, granted the rest of me isn't half bad either, but still, after a tough day, who wants to hang out with a drag.
The regulars need some time to watch you before they will "try you out", the not so regulars are there to forget about their crappy day.
Trust me, smile and listen to them, the conversation will just flow if you truly pay attention to them. Good luck! ::)
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;)In smaller clubs, some times there is more money when it is slow. You have to spend more time with each customer. But not too much time w/ the wrong customer. When your on stage make eye contact w/ each person, if permitting, touch each guy slightly on the cheek or arm when taking a tip, who ever responds strongly go to them right after your set and ask for a dance. When your done with the stage customers go to any one at the bar and ask to sit with him. Have a conversation and then ask for a dance, most big spenders won't tip at the stage in a slow club because they feel on display and shy.
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most big spenders won't tip at the stage in a slow club because they feel on display and shy.
lookers that is sooo true!!
im about to start hitting up the guys who DONT tip me on stage ....
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In some clubs the only way to make really good money is to have a group of regulars who come to see you. And that takes time to establish. When you find a customer who seems to really like you, go out of your way to encourage him to come back again and again. Then you aren't affected by how slow business is.
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Ive noticed in AZ clubs, guys really dont want to hear that much about the serious things in life. Dont remind them either, because it is likely to get them thinking about things other than the woman in from of them.
Can I ask at which club you dance? Ive been dancing here in phoenix for about a year and a half, I may be able to help you out in regards to the better clubs to work in. Ive danced at almost all of them.
As gemini said, you need to smile and have fun at your job. Guys can pick up on your stress on money that night, or whatever else may be on your mind besides having fun with them. They are more likely to spend the money if they are having a good time as well. And what is the best and easiest way to act like your having a good time at work ? Have fun at work! Like I said earlier, ive worked at many clubs, and I made the most money at the one club that I loved being there most. I would suggest a new club if yours isnt pulling that off. Also, you are only two days in, sometimes it just takes awhile to find your own groove. Everything else will follow after that, and you will find that its easier to make the money. When I first started I hated asking guys for dances because all the other girls had all had their, "wannadance" before me, but once you get acquanted with the club and the way things work, things will come naturally and you probably wont feel that way anymore. A good way to avoid that uncomfortable situation too, is to not be the wannadance kind of girl. Believe me, here in AZ they make up 95% of the dancers. Stand out! Smile! Have fun! dont just act it. hope this helps. Id still be interested in knowing which club you work in, feel free to PM me and Ill help you out in regards to the better clubs.
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From a stripper loving customer: Don't ask what my name is, say what do you do, or even did you see my dance, and hold on to my arm as you talk to me, and talk close because about 3/4s of the time I can't hear what a dancer is asking me. Other suggestions: nice shirt (pants, smile, whatever).
I guess I don't like to feel I am in a supermarket and someone is offering me Cheezwiz or whatever that stuff is. Also, check closely to see who is looking at you. Bet someone is and would like to meet you.
Love you girls.