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Magazine Modeling
I want to start doing magazine modeling. How much money do most modeling sessions pay? Is this per magazine or per shoot? Which magazines will only shoot you if they are the first? Are there any "bad" magaizines which ruin your image so that once you've posed in them other magazines won't want to shoot you?
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HI !
Yes there is a system,
we always start our people at the top and work down
because many magazines won't follow others;
it's also who you have at those magazines that can make a huge difference
we would be very interested in talking to you if you are interested
Thanx,
Franco
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617-592-8034
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Sara, I've been watching this thread as I too am interested so I'm pretty bummed nobody has any info they can share. But I'll tell you what little I know. I have a friend who appeared on the cover of Hustler Busty a few months ago. She was on the cover and had a layout inside. She got the gig by sending in her photos with a short bio of herself. I don't know if she was paid for the shoot but I do remember her saying she received a $5,000 check for the cover. I seem to recall this being in addition to some other monies. She said she basically went to the newsstand to see what magazines she was interested in being in.
I guess start with Playboy then work your way down.
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SuperStripper, that is about the same story I've gotten from my friend who will be in "Perfect 10": she had shots taken then sent them in with a bio. When she gets back from Europe, I can ask for more details.
I remember when she was first thinking of doing it; she had just gotten the pics back and she mentioned that she intended sending the info to a couple of publications. I don't know whether she did that and this is what accepted or if it was the only submission. All I know is that she made the contact with the publication(s).
But yes, I'd like more concrete info myself...
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What kind of information should I include in my bio? What did she include? I'm ready to do new photos and can write the bio tomorrow!
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In the UK if you do some of the poorer standard newspapers you will not get booked for the better lads' mags. I am a glamour/advertising/editorial/fashion model and have never done the papers even though it would be a lot of publicity - that's just the way it works here.
I always keep my mouth shut about my dancing when I go to castings/jobs aswell - people don't like to knowingly book a stripper. The agency says the client usually tells them that they are always late, unreliable and unprofessional.
Not all of us are the opposite.
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When dancing is 100% of your income, what do you say you do for money?
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I don't think you need to tell them what you do for money. Your bio should include "just the facts, ma'am" You know, your height, weight, measurements, maybe eye/hair color, shoe size. That's all the info my friend sent. Oh yeah, and a phone number where they can reach you!
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there are two ways into a mag. You can submit photos to the mag directly. Only thing here is that the mag is gonna judge you by those photos, so make sure they are good. Advertise yourself properly. a polaroid might work but a professionally done shot might work better.
Most mags have their core groups of photographers. Everything the mag does is gonna go through this very small community of photographers. If you submit directly to the mag, chances are, if they book you for testing, its going to go to one of their go to people. So, the other way in is to hookup with those photographers directly. You can do that a)through an agent with mag connections, there are three in LA that can hook you up or b) by going directly to the photographer. Basically, you go to their studio, they'll shoot some polaroids. Then they submit them to the magazine. You had better believe that the mags are looking at stephen hicks submittals a lot more closely than some random photographer they've never heard of... anyhow, after that, the photographer can book you for a shoot, usually for his own website which will typically pay $300-$450 flat or $100 per set or so for penthouse style layouts. That will get resubmitted to the magazine and in the case of penthouse or hustler, if they buy the layout, you'll get an additional check or $5K or $4500 upon publication if you are the centerfold. If your photos are submitted and purchased but not used for the centerfold, the photographer selling the shots can sell them as content and is not obligated to pay you a dime upon publication. You get the $450 or whatever and a magazine credit. This can lead to more work, obviously, but you should be sure you know who you are dealing with. there are a handful of photographers who are notorious for promising centerfold opportunities and only have intention of selling the layout as additional content with no back end payment to the model. Its a fucked up business, but not really that much more fucked up than anything else, if you are educated about the business practices the less likely you are to get fucked.
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I would love to do some magazine work, but I'm up here in Seattle and there doesn't seem to be much info here on that. I'm not about to hit LA searching for someone to take my picture and have no clue where to go! What are some contacts that I could possibly get in touch with from up here?
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My opportunities (no, I didn't take them) came from various nude modeling agencies. You should check the internet (well, that's what I did at first anyway) for some modeling opportunities. If you've never done nude modeling before, they'll prob jump at you since they're always looking for fresh meat, someone that no one else has. Everyone's got connections. I don't know where all the magazines are located but I had to drive up to Playboy studios in LA so you'll prob have to go where ever they tell u to.
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okay, I was just reading that and it wasn't very clear... okay, I had started nude modeling for various internet sites... I was referred and requested to some agencies which had connections which took me to playboy before I figured out my parents will get wind of it if I model THERE and kill me... so I started dancing.
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There are many different ways to approach the magazine modeling business. Be careful of what magzine you do work for, as some do not treat you like a professional. Your best bet is to talk to an agent or do like you're doing and seek advice as you are. If you're interested contact us at [email protected] to get more info. We are a full service talent and recruiting firm.
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Increasingly, magazines are reducing their own costs by using in-house photographers and their own studio instead of free-lance professional photographers. This means it's now much more likely to make it into a magazine by submitting photos to them directly.
However, this also means that a part of the decision by the magazine to choose one model over another now includes the potential travel costs of having that girl come to the magazine's headquarters/studio to be photographed. Since most magazines are based in New York or Chicago or Los Angeles or South Florida, this gives girls who live in these areas a major advantage since they can drive themselves to the magazine's studio versus girls who live elsewhere such that the magazine saves having to foot the bill for air travel plus hotel on top of a modeling fee.
Also, primarily because of the internet, magazine sales are off compared to past years. This means that #1 the modeling fees that magazines pay are now pretty low (like a grand if you're lucky). Covers/centerfolds still pay great, but it's obviously pretty tough to be chosen for the cover/centerfold since there are only 12 girls per year out of the entire country which will be chosen by each magazine.
This also means that #2 besides posing for a magazine photo layout, you'll also probably be expected to pose for pictures and video clips to be posted on the magazine's website. This translates into one or even two FULL days of modeling/acting work (which can be exhausting) in exchange for your modeling fee, which may actually pay less than if you had simply worked in a club.
Also the point that Niki made applies to the US as well as to Europe. Upscale magazines are extremely reluctant to hire girls who have appeared in any other magazine previously. Therefore would-be models face the choice of only submitting to upscale magazines and waiting for a year to find out whether they've been accepted or not, versus submitting to second tier magazines with a much higher chance of acceptance but also a much lower range of modeling fees.
I know of a case where a girl submitted to Penthouse, didn't hear anything for 3 months, then submitted, was accepted and was published in a second tier magazine. Penthouse eventually called her to come in for a shoot, but then cancelled when they discovered her other magazine appearance in the meantime.
Magazine modeling these days basically has a few big winners and lots of losers. These days, for most girls, even if you are accepted the modeling fees available make modeling earnings potential questionable versus just dancing.
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Don't think you can lie to Playboy or Penthouse etc. about appearing in lesser mags either. They can and DO find out.
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First, don't join any agency or get a manager unless all else fails! These people, for the most part, are sleezy and just want your money. Most don't even help you but have you sign some stupid contract so you are stuck with them as well, though many models don't realize a lot of contracts aren't legal. You can get out of them just going through the courts if you get stuck, usually.
Now in terms of actually getting into a magazine it isn't that hard but it depends on what publication you are looking at. Also as a photographer who has been published several times I will tell you straight out that magazines pay very poorly. Playboy is one of the biggest magazines around but if you do a full day shoot for their newsstand special editions, like girls of college or whatever, you will get around $600. I think Perfect 10 and Penthouse pay more but I am not positive as I have only worked with Playboy models.
Also if you model for websites then go for magazines you best look very different in your images. These people want you to be an exclusive and if you go behind them then you won't get anymore jobs. That doesn't mean with other magazines but say if you only want to be in Playboy then you have to be careful. I know they have been getting better about things but are still strict with their rules.
Ok well if you have anymore questions just send me a message :) I would be happy to help in whatever way possible. Take care!
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i've shot for almost every men's magazine out there and i also shoot layouts for mags like club. if you're heading out to los angeles anytime soon drop me a line and let me know!
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