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BAMBI- The good news- yes you can set up indepen-
dently. Having your own web-site is a good way to
go and there are a lot of sites you can link to. Limiting
y-self to stripping & massage is possible BUT requires
careful screening on your part. Be ready to deal
with insistent and persistent customers wanting
more.
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yes i figured that... the guys would always like more. but doing my own screening would at least eliminate some of that, well hopefully
thanks 8)
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Hi Bambi,
I do my own exotic dancing with rub down..and YES..I get a lot of "Will you do this for this much..blah blah blah"..I had to start my own thing around here..you can put your ad in the yellow pages...I have a couple of thing's up on the net too..but I found more business in the yellow pages..much easier...believe me they will call. There are a few agencies around here and I called them. They literally told me.."Well it's not just dancing and you know where the money really is"..It makes me mad that they are calling themselves dancers..I don't believe that the girls that work at those agencies have ever danced a day in there life for money...You however can make money on your own..you don't have someone cutting into your money....WE as real dancer's don't have to do sex act's to make it..we may not make the extra BIG bucks..but considering what we make even to show up is big $$$..compared to some club that has NO business or some slimy hooker escort service. Make sure you have a bouncer with you..get the money upfront and give it to your bouncer..get the key from your customer and give it to your bouncer. That bouncer stay's out in the hall near the door..or if the hotel is the type that you walk up to the door have your bouncer (driver if you would like to tell the guy that) stand outside pretend to smoke a cigarette or such. That's what I have my bouncers or hubby do. I pay my bouncer $25 for each show I go to. I do my dancing..my hubby is a DJ and made a Cd that is exactly an hour long..so I won't have to look at the clock..make sure you don't turn the music up to loud so that your bouncer can't hear you if you need help. I bring all sorts of lotion. I have unscented to sometimes the hubby's don't want any scent on them if they don't have time to take a shower after. I give a rub down after which I figure isn't so bad..just like rubbin your boyfriend after a hard day (no genitals) . But that is the only extra I give. Yes the guy's do take care of themselves by the end of my shows..make sure your not within their shooting range though..ewwww..lol..pretty much remain eye candy ..I give an ending erotic show..I have brought toys. Just make sure you pay complete attention at all times to what he is doing. Thing's could turn at any time. Make sure you tell him before the show..what he is allowed to do and not do. A lot of guy's wont book another show..but there are plenty of fish in the sea. Remember not to show up at the hotel or whereever dressed like you would in the club..I wear a long jacket and dress flare pants and some sexy shirt..it's whats underneath that's flashy and yummy.
Well anyways..that's what I do. Hope this helps with some questions.
p.s. My punctuation sucks..I like dot's..lol:)
Good Luck Sweety
Holiday
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Holiday during the phone conversation and setting up the meeting, does the customer know this is all he is getting. Or do you not say anything regarding sex, and let him think that anything may happen.
If he knows he is getting no contact, he still goes ? And this pays well ? I say hats off to you girl!!!
You work it then.
Pamela :)
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My hubby answers or I answer and act like the booking chick.I don't say I am a dancer because they can ask you straight out for sex . They always ask for extra..but I say "This booking is for striptease dancing".."You have to ask the girl, each one is different with what they offer." Which could mean anything.(I do the rubdown thing)(NO PEE PEE RUBBIN for him though :)). My hubby has even told guys flat out "NO, they don't do that" and they still book..The customer assumes the booking guy doesn't know that she is doing extras..they pretty much go for it anyways. Some book a couple of times to break me down..to see if maybe the next time he will get SEX. This whole thing is such a game. Remember these guy's know prostitution is illegal..so they really can't do much about spending money on a DANCER which is what they receive. So what if he doesn't tip when he finds out no sex.(which has yet to happen to me at these shows)..You still get the $125 to $200 or whatever you charge to show up and dance. I don't know maybe I'm nut's but it work's. An extra $100 bucks for sex is not worth me getting AIDS, Herpies, and other nasty crap.
Holiday
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Holiday:
I am curious:
What percentage of your customers expect extras?
What percentage of your customers repeat once they get the idea that you don't provide extras?
With all the internet boards around that rate dancers/escorts do you think your customers would classiffy you as a rip-off?
I could see why someone who likes strip clubs might like the service you provide. An hour's worth of dances in a strip club will probably cost more than what you are charging. Plus they get to release themself, something you can't do in a strip club.
But from perusing some of the other websites I get the impression many would consider you a rip-off, I was just wondering what your experience was.
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My thoughts too Luke. Holiday you say this is a game.....A dangerous one at that. Just be very careful. Escort services provide so much more. I would be scared i would get a guy who would go off on me. A dancer is so much cheaper. Even a regular massage which is what you give, no private parts touched.
Be careful,
Pamela
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In response to Luke:
If men consider me a rip off..I'm sure some do. But if I am a rip off because I will not do anything sexual (illegal) then that his problem. It is illegal for a customer to even ASK me to have sex or sex act's and I could turn them in..but do I..NO of course not. Guy's seem to think they are in charge here. What ever these boards are, where they post about what they got from this escort and that escort should be monitored for "Johns" and "hookers". Plus dancers are not escorts..I do not advertise as an escort. If guy's can't get it through there heads that sex is illegal and that's their problem. As I mentioned before in my other post..some don't call back..who care's ...there are plenty of horny men on earth who will be satisfied with a service I offer. Let me guess..the highest rated on these sites..men get [email protected]cked, and [email protected]ing is a dangerous job anyways..with men who get obsessed and such. So should I get out of the business cause I won't F*CK when some guy hands me an extra $100? It's more of the MEN out there breaking the law by constantly hunting and asking for sex from dancers. And it's the stupid ESCORT agencies who make it hard on me..by posing as dancers to make it look legit. It's a crazy business.. :(
Holiday
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Thanks for all the info Holiday. I must agree that if these guys don't call back then there is still plenty of other customers out there. As to the "rip off" response, Hey don't call, or better yet, go out on Sunset blvd and try to pick up a girl that way :-/ (yeah i thought not...) anyway... I'm in LA and with the ban on "lap" dances still up in the air for the time being, a lot of guys I've found just don't want to spend that much money these days. They won't spend as much on my personal striptease/massage, as they might at the nude clubs where there's a cover charge, drink charge, $40 for one dance, and not to mention, they better NEVER get caught in a club touching themselves. Holidays way of business is exactly what I plan on offering, dancing for me is not going very far in the clubs in LA
thanks again :-*
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Holiday:
As i stated in my earlier post
I was just curious as to:
What percentage of your customers expect extras?
What percentage of your customers repeat once they get the idea that you don't provide extras?
You answered one of my questions, some probably do consider you a ripoff. But not these two, which of course you don't have to if you don't want to.
I guess as long as you are advertising as a dancer you're not ripping anyone off. One thing you do say though
"I don't say I am a dancer because they can ask you straight out for sex . They always ask for extra..but I say "This booking is for striptease dancing".."You have to ask the girl, each one is different with what they offer." "
This seems kind of misleading. Especially since you know what you will be offering. Why not always say no extras are involved as you say your husband does? Sure some guys will still book thinking they can persuade you, but then they clearly have only themselves to blame.
By leaving open the possibility that extras are available aren't you being unethical?
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Well that's a first..
Stripper Ethic's...I took Legal ethic's class in college..but must have missed that one..lol
Is that the class where I am supposed to learn to make sure cheating husbands get the most for their buck?
If having a HOT blonde show up and give you a lap dance, get fully nude, and rub you down..is unethical because he find's out extra's..doesn't mean poking her.
Then all of us dancers should get out of the business..wouldn't want to be unethical..maybe I should give them my real name and address too..cause that's deceiving them too.
All my customers expect SEX..lol..even when told no..they still think it is a possibility..why? Maybe if they wave some cash at me I will cave in. I tell each and every guy face to face in that room..this is what go's and doesn't..You see in that situation I am in charge. That's how this whole thing works.
Tell me Luke ..Is it illegal to solicit a dancer for sex? Are you one of those guy's that do that?
Isn't a HOT girl putting on a show, getting naked, rubbing a guy down enough? Obviously it's a hell of a lot better than what they have at home or they wouldn't be in the room with me.
I don't tell the men I am a dancer on the phone..because I have experienced men thinking it's ok to call me up to chat day after day...plus it get's a little old to be solicited all day for sex. I will not tolerate illegal activity to be forced on me and I do not want it discussed when obviously every man in the United States know's it illegal, unless maybe Nevada.
Why are you so concerned that these poor guy's aren't getting their money's worth by getting the illegal extra they really want?
Holiday
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I think the problem some have and i asked the questions to Hoiliday is that you are coming across as an escorting job. You don't perform illegal activites, i like that. A good clean person wit her own twist!
But you mention the guys masturbate. To what ? Do you play with yourself ? Or do they do so while you rub their thighs for example.
I myself have never heard of this type of work. Unless it's escorting.
Certain parts are confusing...You do leave the impression there can be some sort of sexual act before metting, right? Or else they would just go to a massage parlour it would seem and get their cock stroked too.
We just want to learn how youmake this work. From one dancer to another, i understand you can be clean and do your job.
But i like the others would feel maybe someone is going to get very pissed when they pay the higher than average price for a striptease, and massage. Then they are all worked up, in private (not a public place, like a club) and maybe want the money back, or something else.
Do you have repeats ? And do you feel like you are ripping them off with them thinking they will get more than what you give. Or do you tell on the phone. "i only do this, period."
It's a learning experience for me. I respect what you are doing. And wish you lots more clients!!
Pamela :)
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Holiday:
To address your points:
Being unethical: BY that I mean not intentionally misleading people. You can pretend to be the booker and tell guys no extras or sex is involved. If they still want to book that's on them.
Isn't a HOT girl putting on a show, getting naked, rubbing a guy down enough?
I would not think that would be enough for most men, but you know better than I do, which is why I asked you the questions in the first place.
But if you tell them "You have to ask the girl, each one is different with what they offer." " you are intentionally misleading them as you know what you will offer.
I'm not really that concerned "that these poor guy's aren't getting their money's worth by getting the illegal extra they really want?"
I was just surprised that there were a lot of guys willing to shell out a couple of hundred bucks, knowingly, for a dance. Out of curiosity I was trying to find how many guys were paying for dances and how many were expecting something else.
For whatever reason you still haven't answered these 2 questions:
What percentage of your customers expect extras?
What percentage of your customers repeat once they get the idea that you don't provide extras?
I don't think there is anything wrong with the service you are providing. Since it is legal more power to you.
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Whatever happened to caveat emptor ( let the buyer
beware)?
LUKE- apparently she is selling a VIP room experience
for approximately the same price as some clubs- a lot
less for a lot more than others. I don't see any
blatant dishonesty or misrepresentation on her part.
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Luke I can tell you right now they ALL want extras!!!!!! Come on we're in a world of "Sex Sells". I've already gotten a high response to starting my own striptease/massage here in LA. I email the guys back letting them know I only do the strip and massage. Most guys are going to expect you to still massage some part of their bodies while they are releasing themselves. I opt for massaging their shoulders during this last part of my services.
I believe Holiday already answered the other question before about repeat customers: some try for a second time hoping to get more, then if not there's PLENTY OF OTHERS that are still interested to keep anyone doing this business with a decent amount of $$ and work.
Are you someone who gets these services? Just curious? Starting your own business? WHAT?
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Bambi:
Just curious. Like I said, I am surprised that men would be willing to pay hundreds of dollars for a dance. But then I don't get the whole strip club fantasy thing either. I would prefer to go to a regular bar/club. To each his own. I'm not knocking it, just trying to understand.
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Luke i tried to understand the whole escort business too, so i applied for a job at a few companies. Was handed papers to read, (i just read them,) and had 1 hour long interview.
Being an independant girl, you can add or take away anything you are not comfortable with. But the big dogs would love for you to have sex, thats what builds their clientel. I seen a few women come in to turn in their pagers while i was there, and they looked like street walkers.
But doing a dance/strip/massage for a man, you call the shots. Thats the beauty of this. Yes i firmly believe a man paying this much money wants and would expect more. If nothing else it's a way of building up a "rip off" reputation. But do alot of women care, no. Because there are so many more men to come and take their place.
My only concern is how i presented my phone conversation with a 'potential client.' I would no doubt answer the phone myself, and continue to tell the man i work for myself. And this is what you get for this. And this is what you will get for this with different prices. Say i dress Dom for a certain guy, hell he may like the look and a slight smack with a whip on the butt, a good dance, strip and massage. But know i am stuck, sort of, he's turned on. So he wants to masturbate, i already told him no sex, period.
What do i do ? Let him look at me standing there with a whip in my mouth, crack him a few more times to help him along ? Etc.
I think you get the picture, some guys may want a little more then others, and hell my hands are not touching his penis. But to look at me a masturbate, i can go for that.
But again, if i guy shows up and pays a certain price, and i would set prices depending on how to dress, or act, say dressed like a schoolgirl who massages and strips, or cop who puts cuffs on him and acts like a bitch with lots of verbal humiliation, (seems you almost have to cross over to domination, doesn't it, because these guys DON"T expect sex, at least the ones who know the game.)
i can then be what he wants. He accepts, no problem.
I would have to be honest, and make it fun, but i don't think i could compete with the "real escorts" who do the dinner thing and up to the room etc.
I may be short lived for me.
I say whatever a woman wnats to do, as long as it does not impact me or my family directly, GO FOR IT!
Just my thoughts, how i would do this type of work.
Pamela :)
Holiday has her own thing going. More power to her!!! :)
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This is very interesting......
Bambi i was wondering if you had started and if so how it is going for you?
Also if anybody else does here does there own private strip/massage, how is it for you?..... And are there any guys here who go to see private dancers ( who don't do hj's, bj,s fs ) but who maybe offer more "activity" then the SCs?
Seraya.
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I have gotten into doing privates. No more clubs for me, fun while it lasted, but too much crap going around in alot of clubs these days, my car seemed to be a real bother for me, (it got scratched up pretty bad) so now it's privates! I love them, and do shows i would never dream of doing at clubs, or rather shows that would be considered illegal i am sure.
Money is good, and i am free to do as i please.
Pamela
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Originally Posted by Pamela link=board=10;threadid=4210;start=msg61245#msg6124 5 date=1073450545
I have gotten into doing privates. No more clubs for me, fun while it lasted, but too much crap going around in alot of clubs these days, my car seemed to be a real bother for me, (it got scratched up pretty bad) so now it's privates! I love them, and do shows i would never dream of doing at clubs, or rather shows that would be considered illegal i am sure.
Money is good, and i am free to do as i please.
Pamela
That's good to hear pamela, i'm happy that this is working out for you. I was wondering how do go about getting customers ( not sure if that the right term) do you advertise like holiday? also do you only do group parties like stag nights or do you also do 1 to 1 dances?
Thanx hun...... Seraya.
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Sorry one more thing pamela (and others) how many privates do you do a week/month?..... sorry bout all the Q's
Seraya.
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I go by word of mouth. I know lots os people in my other job, and they have friends and friends.....
I probably do only 3 a month, most i can't make because it is very late or i don't have my friend to watch over. It's funny, alot of parties tho!
I also have done 1 on 1 dances, for some reason they last longer for me, the guy usually gets to talking alot and asking for more. Lol. Cell # Home # etc. Sorry, to let them down, but for a single guy i think it feels more like a date, but not for me, it's work :P
The most i had was 12, OMG what a nightmare ???
I am slowing down with my dancing days now, and even phone sex. Moving on to other jobs, and hobbies, it's nice.
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12 geez, they must have had fun! lol
Well i haven't sarted dancing yet but when i do i wouldn't mind doing privates aswell.... but i'm not sure how i would get about getting business, apart from the guys who i'll dance for in the club. I suposse i would have to also advertise.
Anyway good luck to you pamela, with what ever you do!
Seraya.
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Thanks Seraya, i will probably be doing privates for awhile, BUT i feel as though i am burning out on phone sex, guess i am tired of getting paid for being a fantasy, and want to be ME.
Pamela
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Next month..I have a yellow page ad coming out..not anything big..just the name of the company and the website addy. $50 bucks a month..I had one about 2 1/2 years ago..but stopped the whole thing to move and have another baby. We got slammed with calls though. I like it because it's easier to have them call us..instead of searching for guys online..I have found that most guys around my area aren't to serious when they talk to me online..they just start talking sex and stuff. If they actually call the number they are more almost 100% going to get a show.