IS INCALL/OUTCALL, MORE PROFITABLE THAN DANCING IN A CLUB? IS IT DANGEROUS,&HAS ANYONE HAD ANY SUCESS PUTTING THEIR OWN AD IN A LOCAL PAPER, CAN ANYONE GIVE ME SOME POINTERS ON THE SUBJECT?
THANKS. :) :)
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IS INCALL/OUTCALL, MORE PROFITABLE THAN DANCING IN A CLUB? IS IT DANGEROUS,&HAS ANYONE HAD ANY SUCESS PUTTING THEIR OWN AD IN A LOCAL PAPER, CAN ANYONE GIVE ME SOME POINTERS ON THE SUBJECT?
THANKS. :) :)
Hi Mercedes,
It can be more profitable that working in a lot of clubs, about the same as other clubs tho. The big advantage is that it takes so much less of your time.
Most Incall/Outcall girls are hookers tho, so if you're going do it you'll need to have good security and be prepared for people to expect sex.
Lena
Incall/Outcall is the same as working for an escort service.It can be very stressful driving to strange places and walking into an unknown situation. I have known people in this business that have been robbed or stabbed. Iwould stick to dancing. The risk to your health and safety is by far,less greater. At least you don't have to have sex when you are a dancer. Just some healthy advice. Lelea :-*
Just to clarify, escorting and incall/outcall stripping aren't the same. There are true incall/outcall stripping services that do not involve escorting or prostitution, though the terms "incall" and "outcall" frequently are used to refer to prostitution.
means, for the record. Though it depends on the club & part of the country, in most SCs contact means grinding, boob & butt touching.
With escorting you will be providing "full service" - oral sex & vaginal intercouse are the norm.
I thought you were talking about escorting. When I think of incall or outcall it's usually in the context of escort agencies. I didn't realize you were talking about private dancing. Do you work for Centerfold Strips?
Hi there MERCEDES,
i can understand the confusion. Here is a good site to check out Incall outcall strippers.
Hope this info. helps you better understand about how incall outcall stripping works.
AS i only do outcall when i give a regular at the club my card and he says he is there. ;) Pamela
I worked for an escorting agency in Los Angeles for about two weeks and hated it. Then I tried to get a job at Venus Faire in North Hollywood CA. and was told that most women who work or have worked for escorting agencies are basically blacklisted from obtaining employment from most night and strip clubs. Now I'm screwed. Just a warning for anyone else just starting out in this industry.
Ophelia
How would any strip club find out that you previously worked for an escort agency??
Outerspace, i guess the question would be, do they care? Some don't. I have worked with ladies who once escorted, and now dance. The club knew, just kept an eye on them, and kept it clean.
Some of these ladies have great people skills, and can hustle with out having to have sex. And blacklisting is a biggie in the dancing world, as well as in the phone sex world.
Pamela :)
I know this is a touchy subject but I have some questions about INCALL escorting and how the
business operates....
How do you know the difference between a good agency and a bad one?
For Incall does the agency make the appointment for you to meet the customer at the agency?
Doe the agency have bedrooms in the building for the incalls?
How do the men choose the escorts?(pictures, blind date, description only, chooses you in person?)
What does the average escort make?
What is the pay structure like--How much % does the escort get, and the agency?
Is escorting legal in some states besides Vegas?
Are there 'types' incall esorting that is legal?
Do you think choosing to do some escorting in your life is a measure of desperation?
Escorting is not legal in Vegas, very common but not legal. Prostitution is legal only in brothels outside Clark County and throughout NV in towns with small populations. Prostitution and Escorting are legal in Austrailia. I was a phone girl for a while at one of the agencies in Vegas and while the outcall dancing described above sounds profitable and fairly safe escorting is profitable but not entirly safe. Many of our girls had no problems but in the short time I was there working the day shift several girls had trouble.
I was indeed released from my duties b/c phone girls are required to be kinda mean to the girls and I am sooo not good at that.
I can go more into detail about the biz in Vegas if you need.
Outcall you go to the persons house. No one is there with you, the owner/manager calls to see if you made it there, and calls to let you know your time is up. Or if you will be extending.
Pamela
This i hope helps some make better money, and be independent of working at a club, or at least be an option. I learned alot about the incall/outcall thing.All you do is put an ad in the classifides of your local paper, in the adult entertainment part ( $80-100 ), put a cell phone # or pager # in. And be ready to get calls 24/7. The price is about $125 for a half hour dance, $180 for an hour. Screen calls by caller id for area codes from bad parts of town.Outcall is going to someones house, have someone drive for security, and sit in the car or go around the block a few times, incall is where you or someone you know gets a motel room and clients go there, not a dive, like one in a suburb, Be discreet, try to get a room away from the office, and don't attract too much attention. When someone wants to see you at a motel, you tell then the name and location of the motel, not the room #, tell them to call when they get there, that way you tell them the room # when they are there, weeding out those that don't show up or just wasting your time. I called the local police in the detroit area and asked if this is legal, the answer is yes as long as you are just dancing . Be discreet and screen good then you will have regulars and not have to run an ad. These are private dances, I'm pretty sure escorting is a totally different thing. i'll just leave that alone. As far as that goes tho dancing is legal. Don't work for a service because they take about half the $, and why should you, when you can handle all of it yourself. :) :) :)
Right????
I work for an agency now, and I prefer it over the clubs. I provide private dances and group parties only. I specified no mutual touching in my profile. I get hit up for sex contantly of course, but the agency provides me with a male driver who doubles as security. I like it much better. They have a more strict anti-sex attitude, because it's a good agency that doesn't want to sully their name. This is why I dropped out of the club scene, at least for now.
Juliette deSade
I do have a question for Juilette, Why don't you put your own ad in the paper? And you could probably get a friend to drive you, Andyou could work your own hours,make sense?
Those ads in the paper are typically girls selling sexual favors. I like it to be understood from the beginning that it is not my business. Plus, there is the added security of having a good agency backing you up, should something go wrong. These agencies often have connections for the dancers as well, such as boutiques, the best hairdressers, tons of high dollar clients....I don't see any point at going completely independent at age 20 anyway. I don't know this business well enough yet.
The agency I work for gives me $125/hr, plus I get to keep my tips......that's guaranteed. Plus, I have security with me at all times. I am sure it does vary. I know NYC has a free magazine for adults...the ads sort of tell the story. Really big ads mean that the company is doing well or has invested a lot of money. Something. Find one you feel comfortable with and call them. Nightly, it is about $250. More for bachelor parties! Those are the serious $$$ draws because you can charge per dance.
Juliette de Sade
My name is Jasmine. I run 2hot2handle in N. CA. Outcall shows do never have to involve anything illegal. Although these clients will tempt you with everything under the sun. You must value yourself very highly and never let your guard down out of 5000+ shows I have almost been raped 3 times. To me that is good odds compared to all that I would endure in a club setting although now I am going to do both. Make your show very original. Bring a big bag with black lights, disco balls or/and rope lights along with a couple of costumes and lingerie. At the end of my show I belly dance with just the chain on or dance with a veil to th song dance naked. I charge 140 per hr. including set up take down time but most people tip so the real dancing can last longer. Tell them you collect your tips up front because it buys more time and makes you concentrate harder on dancing even more sensual. M y lingerie collection contains over 50 costumes and 3-4 piece sets. Once a person has seen 1 show I give them diffent fantasy costumes songs and props although most never see me twice. If you dont put out be prepared to not get a hell of a lot of return people but you can have a lot of cool return clients because they will appreciate you for other reasons. Escorting and massage girls are different than outcall dancers for parties and private shows. Almost every bachelor and all of my clients proposition me (expect it). Well I could go on and on. I have a website also and people can see ahead of time why the fee is higher etc. That definately has brought me more business. Vegas would be scary. Check the situation first bring 2 ways. YOU MUST ALWAYS BE ESCORTED BY SOMEONE, even my own mother has taqken me to a party whewn no one else was available but---make sure that person is responsible and will not leave you there. Even a cool seeming show can turn bad once the customer sees you dont do ANYTHING but what you are supposed to do-A SHOW REMEMBER--I am a dancer not a ho dont treat me that way or I will leave and there are no refunds for graby or/and rude customers. It has taken me a long time to learn what I know, I would be real scared to be new now. Things in our society have changed a lot. Some girls bring someone in with them(after collecting the money of course)some never take their g off for any amount of $$. Smart girls! Of corse I charge them an extra 60 to see me dance naked for 2 minutes to my song well I could go on and on and on.
Dont offer massage unless you tell them on the phone full body does not mean full full body. Whoever books your shows if you aren't should never lead anyone on just to "book it" or you will make people mad.
Working for someone else sometimes is easier it is hard for me to run the lines constantly most are looking for sex. My cell bill is 200+_ I work for myself and others because then I am way busier. Never mention you work for yourself or the company will find out you are trying to steal customers and then you will have enemies in the industry. This can cost to get started so working for someone else you can trust to set you up with good clients will cut out alot of stress. One companu I work for takes 35%. Nobody should ever take 1/2. After you make friends tell them you are interested in doing your own thing. Either they will trust you and continue to also book shows because you should be very beautiful and talented- these people pay mucho, they should see the very best- a once in a lifetime show just for them.
The website for modelstogo looked great. but what do these women (outcall dancers) really do for up to an hour with these guys? If its a party then it seems obvious that its a striptease and you leave after 30 mins. When you're alone with some guy for 30 mins, its seems like a lot more can go on... I'd be interested but African women don't seem to be in high demand for these types of things, let alone regular strip clubs.
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Huh. I guess I'm an outcall dancer, although I've never heard that term before, and I'll address one of the questions mentioned earlier regarding income. It appears to me that it is *very* city dependent, because I get 35$ per half-hour plus tips. The overall charge is much more (100+), but that's just my share. I suppose it's fair that I get a smaller percentage than what was mentioned above because my company provides everything; costumes, garters, flowers, props, etc. and I just take them and go. My best night so far has been 225$. My worse has of course been none, when nothing was booked. That is one thing about working private parties; with a club, you know that you can get a certain amount of hours a week (I would guess), and with this it's just however business is going.
My boss reminds the people when they book the show that they are not allowed to touch (but we expect that some of them will anyway; this just keeps it to a minimum). I am *encouraged* to touch but not required, and I've been told that I'm not supposed to touch them with my breasts. I guess anything else is fine, since it hasn't been called off-limits yet. At any rate, my company stresses the "classy show". The wives especially expect some touching because they usually want their husbands embarassed as much as possible!
I have only had one case in the past couple of months since I've been working where I've felt threatened in the least, and that was more of an *ew, I'm dancing on to the other people now, you're too rude*. Could be because I'm lucky, could be because of our service area, or it could be because of how well my boss screens my gigs. But... at any rate, I feel safe for the most part (I'm still careful of course.), and I don't feel that anyone ever expects me to give out favors.
I was just seeing if there were more ladies than just my girlfriend (now ex),also i was amazed at the money she brought in a day or night, she was an independant,ran her own ad.I got a firsthand view of what she did, so I figured if we seperated I would hire a few ladies and make money,it really wasn't that complicated. What I have learned since breaking up with her is that in the buisness, there are definite rules to follow or else you should find a new buisness. I havn't started my own buisness, mostly because since we broke up it seems like I have alot more money, figure that out, she did make great $. Also unless one is willing to disipline themselves they are headed for truble and should not quit their day job.