How to start my own revenue generating website?
I really want my own site that draws in income for men to pay a membership fee to look at a collection of my pictures. I am not thinking hardcore dirty porn but more like Playboy and Maxim style pictures. Ex. http://www.RoxanneGalla.com
Does anyone know anything about this? Also, how much of a cut do these webmasters usually expect? Is there a standard percentage? I would really appreciate any feedback. I think it is a good idea to have a back up plan and a way to make money on the side in addition to my day to day work schedule.
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Can't help you but I'll be very interested in the replies as I am also in the process of building my site. Good luck.
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We are in the process of working out a deal with company that will get you running with a website, all you have to do is show up for the photo-shoots.
I want to make sure that their process is good and that they are reliable. Once I'm sure of that, I will add their service around here.
If you're looking to do it on your own there are several ladies here who've done it...maybe they'll chime in. ;)
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Is it a nation wide company, Pryce?
Lena
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I do not take a 'cut' or percentage of any of your sales. You own and operate the website that you pay me to develop, design, program for you. I have over 8 - 20 years professional experience, and references regarding all of the various aspects of this type of work.
$600.00 u.s.d gives you:
* Income Generating Website that You Own and Operate.
* Specialized codes (based on quick research of your competition) are included to enable your target audience to find you quickly and easily online when they search for you.
* Custom designed/developed webpage layout, graphics, designed to be web-friendly, fast loading, and compatible with the major latest web browser software.
*PayNow Buttons, that enable your website viewers to instantly pay your membership fee, whatever that is.
* LogIn/Password Scripts to enable your paying subscribers to login to your members only section.
You can request more details from me if you wish.
More Options cost more money. Options are only limited to your/mine imagination and your budget.
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Hi Angelina,
I picked up a couple of tips from a webmaster who handles sites for a few Playboy Playmates/models. He said that the trend is headed towards multi-model groups. That is when one signs up for one site they also get free membership to other mode sites. The second thing is to search around and talk with owners of other model sites who've had the same webmaster for at least 2 years and still like them. It sounds like a good litmus test.
You should be prepared to WORK on this site and not expect to just sit back and let the $$$ roll in. You need content ( a little plug for myself here as that's what I do), you need to constantly promote your site to keep replacing members that drop off, then there's just the regular crap that any business requires, like taxes. You need to do it yourself or pay someone else to do it. As for percentages, expect to pay in the 40~60% range. You have to really watch your chargebacks as some credit card companies are now putting outrageous fines on going over a fairly low percentage of chargebacks. What is really outrageous is that they only do this for what they call 'adult' sites. There are many other types of business with higher percentage chargeback that aren't penalized like this.
Good luck with your site!
Robert Jensen
That's pretty much what I know about starting a model site.
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Good background on the whole adult webmaster world:
http://www.ynotmasters.com/public/Index.cgi
I used to work with many of these guys and they are good people with good heads on their shoulders. I also have a subscription to AVN Online which you can get free if you have an adult website (at least you could last year). Not only do they have great info on the trends and legal issues in the online adult content world, they have great coding tips and product reviews as well. Even if you are not handling the backend yourself, you should at least know what people are talking about so that you are not being taken advantage of. The credit card issues alone can be overwhelming if you are trying to do this independently.
~V~
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Services like PayPal deal with the credit card issues and automates everything for your online businesses. If you do not sell your products/services, you do not pay anything.
When you actually sell your services online, paypal takes a very small percentage of each of your sales, from .7% to 2.9%.
It is free to withdraw your money to your us bank account, deposit to your us bank account, send money, open your business account, add funds.
you can accept payments in any currency too.
Ive been using them for a few years now, and it is a pretty good service, and ALOT CHEAPER and more secure than the merchant accounts that Ive set past clients up with. More Info about paypal: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=SE5RWTZS6FJ74
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It is EXTREMELY hard to make any money on the internet, and with all the millions of adult membership websites, just getting yours noticed in the sea of others is a huge task.
The percentage of sales relative to how many hits you get on an adult site is something like 0.1% (last I checked), meaning you might get 1 sale for every 1000 unique visitors who hit your site. So if you're selling memberships for, say, $15 per month (the most you can expect to get for an adult site without any hardcore stuff), you'll have to be running at least 2000+ unique hits per day just to sell 2+ memberships per day, in order to take in $1000 in gross sales per month. Add that to the fact that most customers will cancel their memberships after the first month so you constantly have to get new customers, and the difficulty increases. Contrary to what most people trying to sell their site-building services to you say, the internet is not flooded with paying customers - just like in a strip club, the majority are just trying to see how much they can get for free. It's much easier to sell in person than through a computer.
Then you have to pay for hosting (adult hosting is not only more expensive than regular hosting, but the more bandwidth you use --bandwidth in simple terms is how many people are on your site downloading your stuff-- the more they charge), credit card processing (at the very least you'll be charged a % of whatever sales you make - paypal is NOT the best way to make sales, since anyone who uses their service has to be a registered member, and paypal membership can take days and sometimes weeks to get approved), but you'll have to either spend TONS of hours building and updating your site and taking new pictures/videos or you'll have to pay someone to help you with that.
I used to run my own site for a couple years, and trust me when I say it's a FULL time commitment. It got to the point where just to keep up with the minimum updating that is necessary and answer all the damn bullshit emails from paying members (if you don't answer they stop paying), I was spending at least 10 hours a day online, at least 4 days a week. You'll also get loads of bullshit emails from dipwads who get their kicks from sending sex 'fantasies' to girls online, and will bait you into answering by asking some bullshit question about how to join, but have no intention of ever paying for membership. When I looked at how much time I was spending on the site and what $$ I was making with it, versus how much I could have been making if I just kept my ass in the club, I took the site down and dropped it like stinky worn socks.
In my experience, the only people really making any money to speak of on internet porn are the people who were lucky/with it enough to get in early (got positioned early), those with something really unique to sell (like illegal sex stuff, extreme hardcore, huge tits like Melonie, a famous name like Playboy/Penthouse models, etc), and the big conglamorates with so many sites and domain names that when Joe Surfer types in a common porn keyword he almost always winds up hitting one of their sites (which ultimately leads to a main flagship corporate site).
In any case, it is near impossible for a regular girl to make any kind of decent money with a softcore porn site. There's so much to learn about running a sucessful internet business, you could spend years and still not get very far, and it takes much more work than you could imagine. I would only recommend it to those who are real internet nerds - anyone who is considering starting an internet site as a way of having a side income to add to dancing, and/or thinks it might be an easy way to make some cash, should forget it IMO. And I do NOT recommend that anyone pay some web designer/master/coder/whatever to put a site together for you, before you do some serious research on what it takes to run the business and make money at it. You definitely can not just sling up a website and watch the cash roll in. It takes a lot of time and effort, to say the least. Just ask Pryce how much time he's put into this site, and how long it took to build up the membership here (and it's a free site).
Now if you just want to put up a site about your dancing and have some pics, your schedule and a way for customers to contact you, and maybe a way for them to buy dance certificates and other personalized merchandise, that's a different thing. You can put up a simple site with that stuff and give the address to your customers, and that could potentially build into an income generator (by selling your merchandise and possibly building up enough of a fanbase to justify the added burden/expense of a paid membership area). You can do all this with a yahoo group with no out-of-pocket expense and little effort at building the site.
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Bridgette, you have said it perfectly... very hard biz to make money in. Soooo many people think it is an easy way to make money... part time turnkey stuff. nope. You should write for some of the newbie sites!
Re: the Paypal option, I was told by a friend with a site that Paypal, since being bought by Ebay, now is making it more difficult for Adult themed businesses to use them. I haven't looked into that personally but that would be something you'd need to know.
For anyone looking into this, read everything you can and know how to do as much of it as possible yourself. If you are not dissuaded at that point... good luck :).
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The percentage of sales relative to how many hits you get on an adult site is something like 0.1% (last I checked), meaning you might get 1 sale for every 1000 unique visitors who hit your site. ..... the internet is not flooded with paying customers - just like in a strip club, the majority are just trying to see how much they can get for free. It's much easier to sell in person than through a computer.
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yep, we need to do the same work/investment as any other businesses, traditional advertising, etc. Another silly thing I see many newbies do lately,,, is they add the banner advertisements thinking they will make money from commisions, etc.... parasiteware and scumware makes sure that those banner advertisements will never pay the webmaster for their time, effort, and bandwidth.
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credit card processing (at the very least you'll be charged a % of whatever sales you make - paypal is NOT the best way to make sales, since anyone who uses their service has to be a registered member, and paypal membership can take days and sometimes weeks to get approved), .
Paypal also weeds out many scammers and thiefs in customers as well as merchants, same as any other legitimate business. I like it because I have no worries about whether or not my subscribers are using a stolen credit card and things like that, to pay me for my online business. (I've been building/running various ecommerce sites since 1996)
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but you'll have to either spend TONS of hours building and updating your site and taking new pictures/videos or you'll have to pay someone to help you with that.
um, we are all spending time on the internet anyway, on this board and other places :) Their are tons of tools, templates, free advice/codes online, and good internet services to help automate these type of internet business tasks.
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It got to the point where just to keep up with the minimum updating that is necessary and answer all the damn bullshit emails from paying members (if you don't answer they stop paying),
I was spending at least 10 hours a day online, at least 4 days a week.
You'll also get loads of bullshit emails from dipwads who get their kicks from sending sex 'fantasies' to girls online, and will bait you into answering by asking some bullshit question about how to join, but have no intention of ever paying for membership.
why not use more automation, the latest technologies, and virtual humans to answer the stupid questions.... and just ignore the freebie charity case wannabes that do not do anything for you to have a better life.
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In any case, it is near impossible for a regular girl to make any kind of decent money with a softcore porn site.
you have to find someone reliable, Honest, experienced, with references, and a proven track record. Same as any other business venture.
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I would only recommend it to those who are real internet nerds - anyone who is considering starting an internet site as a way of having a side income to add to dancing, and/or thinks it might be an easy way to make some cash, should forget it IMO. And I do NOT recommend that anyone pay some web designer/master/coder/whatever to put a site together for you, before you do some serious research on what it takes to run the business and make money at it.
I can not agree that only nerds can run a successful internet business... any business venture takes many differant talents to succeed.... accountants, lawyers, builders, sales reps, advertising, pr, etc...... Anyone wanting to be successful with an internet business, MOST DEFINATELY, must get a dedicated, experienced, computer/internet nerd to work with them and produce the actual codes and website though.
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You definitely can not just sling up a website and watch the cash roll in. It takes a lot of time and effort, to say the least.
yes, just like dancing and any other business, it requires work.
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Now if you just want to put up a site about your dancing and have some pics, your schedule and a way for customers to contact you, and maybe a way for them to buy dance certificates and other personalized merchandise, that's a different thing. You can put up a simple site with that stuff and give the address to your customers, and that could potentially build into an income generator (by selling your merchandise and possibly building up enough of a fanbase to justify the added burden/expense of a paid membership area). You can do all this with a yahoo group with no out-of-pocket expense and little effort at building the site.
and have your computer nerd friend setup the secure payment buttons, webcam, and chat for your paying subscribers so you can concentrate on what you do best :) many dancers do this without having to find expensive webhosts, credit card processing, etc.....
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Well, sexypimpbot, that's a nice advertisement for your services. Thanks. I was only trying to answer some questions about running an internet site and some of the issues that come with it. Ads go in the marketplace.
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very informative site. its too bad that their suggested alternatives seem worse than what they say paypal is though. I had an issue with paypal, about 3 years ago too, similar to what paypalsucks.com talks about.... It took me about 6 months to resolve the issue with paypal and get my money, very frustrating. Since then, I have been doing what the people on paypalsucks.com suggest to do...
that stormpay option..... Im always getting spam from stormpay merchants overseas, telling me to send them $460.00 to their stormpay account, or else they will send me more spam....lol
What do you think of the other options? are you finding any of them more economical than paypal?
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Well, sexypimpbot, that's a nice advertisement for your services. Thanks. I was only trying to answer some questions about running an internet site and some of the issues that come with it. Ads go in the marketplace.
Im responding to your post and comments, and never meant to offend anyone.....
.....of course I dont want to be lumped into any general assumptions about all 'nerds or web devs, programmers' as being rip-offs, scammers, not telling the whole story, etc.... so I responded to your comments, thats all :)
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This is info I am very grateful to get. Pinupguy- thank you for the info and tip! Veronika, that is a very useful link I would never have found any other way.(I've bookmarked it for further reference) Bridgette, thank you so much for input and taking the time to tell me about your own experience. Its an eyeopener especially since you had first hand experience. I've decided if I have my own site, I am going to use it more more than one way. To advertise my service, I may blur my face a tiny bit. Then if potential clients want to see more, they should pay for at least one month. That way, they would get to see lots of pictures of a person they would potentially book for a stag. I may have my money making site as a link from my professional site. sexypimpbot, I'm interested in your Bot. I like the way it works! Thank you everyone. It is all info I found helpful.
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And this just got even more difficult. PayPal announced that since they were bought out by EBay (and now have management with a bug up their ass in regard to adult content) that they will no longer process adult site or merchandise transactions after the end of this summer. This cuts out the one "free" processor still available.
With PayPal gone, this leaves IBill and CCBill and other online credit card processing services. However, as a result of the Patriot Act and new verification requirements as to who receives money, IBill and CCBill have both instituted huge annual fees. I just had to spend $750 and go through a credit check and personal investigation so that IBill and CCBill could report to MasterCard and Visa that I am a legitimate US citizen, with a legitimate business, and with a reasonably solid credit history. Any new website accounts will have to pony up the $750 and will have to survive the investigation in order to be able to process Credit Card charges on the net.
Of course, this can be avoided if a girl doesn't operate her own site, but works as a "partner" with a huge multi-girl website which uses their own credit card processing service on behalf of the girl. However, in exchange for this "little favor", the huge multi-girl website often keeps 50% of the girl's earnings as hosting and processing fees.
how is StormPay working for others?
just wondering if anyone else has any experiences with stormpay.
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Wish i had other alternatives. I don't. It's tough, i had a paid site a few years back for phone sex services, and i then used paypal, but now i would not be able to if i had an adult site back up again anyway. Too much friggin CC fraud. And i don't like the hassle.
BTW, nice site.
Pamela
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Any new website accounts will have to pony up the $750 and will have to survive the investigation in order to be able to process Credit Card charges on the net.
We have just started our website and the $750 comes into play with Visa only (at least in our case) but with all the other CCs that ibill takes we just left Visa off the list. As far as doing your site, just jump in and learn, its fairly cheap and you learn alot. Start small, thats what we've done. Once you get the hang of it you'll be fine.
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