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When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
First, a little background to put things into perspective.
There's this dude i know. Met him in 4th grade and at the time we became fast friends (since then, though, we pretty much grew apart as soon as the hair on the chest came, well, he kinda turned into a prick so the friendship ended). Shit, what should i call him? Dave? Matt? Mike? Hell, i'll call him Corey (is that his real name? Only the shadow, and me, knows).
Corey and I have been at odds for years. Sometimes he's alright, but most of the time he's a total prick (though i did defend him once when some asshole was leaving messages on his answering machine saying "fucking jews, hitler's coming for you," because i have a problem with that, or racism in any form. But it wasn't really about corey, more about myself and what i find acceptable and what i do not).
Anyway, this guy grew up to be a new Car Salesman (he's the type) like his oily, prickley, dad (when i was a kid i went to see him while he was on one of his weekend visits to his dad, and the guy got mad because i didn't thank him for the pleasure of being at his house. I didn't eat, or anything. No money was spent, i played video games for god's sake, i was 11! I had no idea he wanted a thank you or i'd have given him one. How many times do you have to thank your friends parents for coming over as a 11 year old kid???). Anyway, he made some good cash selling cars, and had himself a decent life and a nice place to live.
Then he met the Girls across the river (I live in St. Louis, MO)
This fucking dude gave every fucking dime he made to strippers! Put himself in the goddamn poor house. Literally, he lives with his mother now!
This other guy, who i'll call (um, damn i'm no good at this) Bob, told me that on his 21st birthday Corey took him into one of those places and the girls knew him by name (I just bet they did, i bet some smiles exchanged between Dancers the second they saw him, and not the kind any guy would really want), he gave them so much money that they actually managed to remember him by NAME!
Apparently, he was in quite a lot then. I dunno, i never went with him (ewwww).
When i heard about why Corey lost his apartment i lauged my ass off. Whenever i see him i mercilessly give him shit over this moronic debacle.
But...
Get this, hysterically, he blames them!
"THEY TOOK MY MONEY!" Corey says, as if he was just holding the money for the rent and some dastardly naked woman ran up and took it from his innocent little hand. No joke. This is one of the reasons i'm so mean to him about this. He can't stand it, but he knows he's at fault. So he tries to deflect the blame, and the constant goofing on him he gets. I dunno about anyone else, but i'm not fooled. When he derides the Dancers that he willingly gave his money to (and i know he did, no-one stole from him, once while he was drunk he told me) I say "How's life at mom's, stripperboy?"
He really has no answer. Not a true one anyway, and he knows that i know he's full of shit when he gives the "theydidit" line of crap. Hell, i've known him for twenty years!
Look, i giggle over this. A lot. I think he's an utter dumbass. Not for going to the strip clubs (after all, i do it too semi-often), but for putting the electric bill payment between a woman's breasts.
Then i occasionally think, what about morons like him who have kids? Corey has none (He can't get laid by a hooker, trust me), but what about morons that do? Has this ever happened before?
Dumbasses as they may be, i'll bet it has.
And i don't feel sorry for them a bit (Though if the kids ended up out on the street, i sure would feel for them, however most of the time kids don't, at least once uncle sammy hears of it. That moron is a shitty father anyway and doesn't deserve a family if he's going to be that stupid), I mean, is it really that difficult to act like an adult?
I mean, explain it to me! How the fuck does someone let this happen?
The girls are blameless in any case. Hell, Dancers expect you to be an adult. If a guy is giving them money, what the fuck, are they gonna ask him "You sure you got the Gas bill paid?" Hell no! And rightly so! They aren't his goddamn mothers! It's not their job! He needs to take care of himself! At the time, he was a twenty-eight year old man. He has no-one to blame but himself.
It's kind of a funny story, maybe not the way i write it to you but it's a hoot to me. Corey deserved it, the utter moron.
Anyone have a similar story?
P.S.: When i heard the story i doubted it. When i saw Corey after he had to move home with Mom and do the Peter Pan thing, i just knew. And i was in pain i laughed so hard.
As Bugs might say "What a maroon."
{Edited for formatting, plus i'm not sure i spelled 'deserve' right, and at the moment i can't think of the spelling and i'm too lazy to hit Meriam-Webster's dictionary website, but try as i may i can't find a spelling that looks right. What can i say, i was a public school kid!}
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
I don't have a story quite like yours but a good friend of mine ( since grade scjool) was impreganated by this total loser who told her that her car was messed up ( at the time a barely year old ford tarus) and he would take it in. Well months upon months went by and still no car. She called up the place he said he took it to, it had never been there. Turns out he was slowly selling the parts for money, and now the bastard rots in jail. Too bad her son has to have a father like this, but still the kid isn't any less loved.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
Question...
Turns out he was slowly selling the parts for money, and now the bastard rots in jail. Too bad her son has to have a father like this, but still the kid isn't any less loved.
Does he have a drug habit? Out of curiosity, because that seems like a really dumb way to treat the mother of one's kid unless something is driving him (Not that it's needed, people act like creeps all the time)!
P.S.: Your friend doesn't sound stupid, it just sounds to me like she trusted the wrong person. It happens. That's not stupidity, it's the belief in human nature that erodes as the years go by. Sadly.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
Something a lot of dancers are not aware of is that some customers become quite literally addicted to the clubs. They fall in love not with the dancers, but with the attention they get...or at least the perceived attention. Much like addicted gamblers, it's never their fault why they blew their life savings on the blackjack tables. I've lived in Las Vegas my entire life and I've seen this trap happen all too often. Of COURSE it's not the dancer's fault for taking the customer's money...that's their job and they provide a service for it. What happens is people become addicted to that service just like alcohol or gambling. For many men who are not normally magnets to having beautiful women pay them attention and dance seductively for them, it very much so can be an addiction. Again though, it doesn't mean that the dancer is doing anything wrong. Much the same way that gambling for fun is fine...gambling with your children's college fund isn't. That's the difference between a healthy lifestyle and one of an addict. It's very easy to blow all your money on lap dances much the same way that you have this huge desire to put down the deed to your house on the Craps table. Although it is a bit odd to have your life ruined because you went to gentlemen's clubs so much, I would suggest not ridicule him as much as I would have him pursue assistance through a therapist.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
Those who study such things claim that strippers, pornography and prostitution are addictions for some men. Their's is need- driven behavior that can't be stopped no matter how hard they try. Beautiful women are an intoxicating and expensive vice. Like gambling, alcohol, and other adult entertainment there are some who can handle it and some who cannot.
Do addicts blame the dealer for making them into junkies? I think they do.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
deserve
:D
I would suggest not ridicule him as much as I would have him pursue assistance through a therapist.
But it's too much fun not to. I didn't mention the times he put me through hell. ;) hehe
One time, when i was about seventeen, he started talking about my girlfriend. About what a slut she was and how many dicks she had sucked for crack and how scummy she was. His mom, protestant Christian as she is (Pentecostal) was right there and just stood there. The only thing she said was "Corey, the only reason he isn't swinging at you right now is because i'm here." Big, fat, fucking smile on her face. You should have seen Corey's. Truth was, she was right. I'd never hit a man while his mother watched. No matter what. But, jesus h. christ i don't want to know what my face looked like.
he could be cool, on occasion. He'd order pizza for everyone for instance, but then he'd turn around and order me out of his apartment's pool. He'd say, "because you'll dirty up the pool, get out and go home." Never mind that he knows full well that i take a shower every time i wake up and am a total zombie without it. Never mind that i wasn't even in the pool yet, just within the fence surrounding it. Look, it may seem like a pussy thing to do, but i just left. Fuck it. Trust me, Corey is a prick in his heart.
Incidentally, i heard from some friends that Corey told them that he'd beat me up that day and that i'd left with my tail between my legs. In a way, i suppose i did. But it wasn't because he hit me (He didn't) but because he hurt me.
Incidentally, i never hit Corey. He's littler than I am. Or maybe i would have. He knows how to be cruel.
So don't feel sorry for him.
I don't. Not a bit. We were friends once, but he's a different person than he was when we walked arm in arm at on the last day od fourth grade, singing "Celebration" by kool and the gang. One of my favorite childhood memories. He's just a different person.
Fuck him.
Hey Vanilla, glad to see you in my first thread.
Ps: Please remember that this is my point of view and that he might not be as bad as i am portraying him. He really can be cool sometimes. But he has a twisted side to him as well.
I just don't want you guys to think that i'm talking shit for no reason.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
Almost two weeks ago I had a customer who was a 22 year old virgin. We did several sets of dances and he hit the ATM three times. When he finally signaled that he had spent enough, the total was $300. He handed over the total with the remark "Well, there goes my car payment." My mouth just dropped. Uhhh.. okay.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
Actually, lillith, i use that SAME THING as a joke a lot after i found out about Corey. It's too much for a goofball like me to resist.
But i make sure and tell the Dancer i'm kidding after the effect sets in (Usually she looks like she thinks i'm trying to swindle her with pity) she usually smiles when i'm like "Kidding, relax".
For some reason i like teasing Dancers (who am i kidding, i like teasing everyone). Sometimes i get a REAL smile, i like that. A smile not born of the facade that you ladies adopt to dance. I dig that. I dunno why.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
the only time that I have ever felt any guilt whatsoever in this regard is when I have discovered that a guy has just blown his entire paycheck, and that his wife and kids will be scrambling to feed themselves and stay warm for the following week. true that it's the guy's fault, but if I'm actually aware that this situation is occurring I'll usually refuse to take the guy's last few bucks and remind him that he has a wife and kids to think about.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
Melonie~
You are one cool lady.
But how do you know this stuff? Do they tell you? If so, how do you know they tell true?
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
Do addicts blame the dealer for making them into junkies? I think they do.
>>> (Im paraphrasing this, as I think my other post on this subject got lost) Im a heroin addict, and I blame myself. I stuck the needle in my forearm, not my dealer. I made the decision to dedicate my life to the cubic centimeter, no one else. I blame my ex a little for not discouraging me, but she was right there next to me, racing to see who would find a vein first and push. So she wasnt in any condition, really. So this guy is just dumb. "Oh, Im addicted to flushing my money down the toilet. Its the toilets fault!" Its just ridiculous. LOL No offense, I know you guys work hard, and have to put up with a lot of shit from customers, and the club management.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
yep, know a guy whose house just got forclosed for spending it all on a girl at my club who he is obsessed with. thinks if he keeps hanging out she will go out with him. which wont happen on a cold day in hell. he is the worse case i have ever seen. it's starting to get scary to me. i wont even really talk to him anymore.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
Funny story Madcap! Well, it really isn't funny that your ex-friend blew all his money and had to move back in with his mom, but maybe now he'll be more responsible with his money. You said he was kind of a jerk, so maybe this will teach him a lesson. It amazes me how many adults still don't know how to budget their money. Always make sure you have your rent/mortgage, car payment, electric bill, food, stuff the kids need, etc. paid first, then use what's left over for fun stuff. I like to go gambling once in a while; I don't go often because I usually lose. I always limit myself to $100, once it's gone, it's gone. I don't bring my ATM card along and blow my whole checking account.
I agree that going to strip clubs can be an addiction, just like alcohol, drugs, or gambling. Funny how he blames the strippers for taking his money too. Yeah, I'm sure they held a gun to his head and said "Gimme all your money!" :laughing:
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
Ill have to admit that having a entertainer remember your name from a month ago is pretty cool,but thats something maybe she prides herself on.The first few months of my SC addiction were like your friends but i never spent more than i could afford.The girl remembering your name,blaming them(to a friend in a fun sort of "She got naked then took all my money"way)not seriously.I can understand where your friend is comming from but he really needs to grow up,or at least learn how to spend money.Addiction to SCs is a bad thing,in fact,im having withdrawls right now,heh.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
Moneywise, i usually limit myself to about 350$ I make about two grand a paycheck (Paid every other week), and i go to a SC about once every couple of months (i like it, but it's not the focus of my life by any stretch of the imagination). 350$ and that's it, once it's gone so am I. Oh, and i never drink more than a couple of beers (#1 i have to drive, #2 alchohol and naked women make for a volotile combination for any man, so i just avoid the situation entirely. I know I'm not taking anyone home, and that's not why i'm there, but i don't want any woman thinking of me negatively if i can help it).
Corey (no, it's not his real name) can sell. I'll give him that much. When we were in high school he worked as a shoe salesman for comission, when he graduated up to Auto sales (daddy got him the job), the cash started rolling in. He DID make quite a lot more than me, a fact that he never let me forget. He's since lost that gig, for an unrelated reason (which i'm not entirely sure of), but for a while he was doing fantastic.
That's the price of stupidity.
See, i don't have the luxury of being stupid. Hell, i bet corey had a lot of fun in his decadence, but i have a ten year old son who's mother has a lot of her own problems (which i won't get into), so i can't do crazy things like that. Even if i wanted to. I have to keep it together.
One last thing...
(I feel kind of bad for deriding him when he can't defend himself, so i'll go ahead and do it)
Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. I'm no better than he is, really. We all have our faults. Hell, he might be a great guy to others. There's just a lot of history and bad blood.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
I used to care about customers wives and kids and car payments and electric bills. I got over it. If I don't hustle it out of them, someone else will, and it's not even that they get hustled so much as that they just want it.
Lena
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
Lena,
I don't blame you. It's not your problem. Granted, i think the Dancers that do care are made out of gold, but i think nothing derisive towards you for not feeling the same. You might be someone's mother (i dunno) but you're not the customer's mother.
They need to act their age.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
People don't take responsibilty fir their own actions. If Corey or any other man didn't want to hand over his money he wouldn't have. It's always better to blame someone else than to admit you f*&$#d up.
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
I dance for men who sneak in an hour after work (supposedly working late) and fly out of there the minute the show is over. They are always like "I gotta go, I have to get home". Anyways I used to feel weird about maybe taking money away from wife and kids.... But then I think THOSE are the bitches who stare at me and gang up on me in chat rooms and snub me a parent teacher meetings, won't move in the grocery even when I say excuse me, I have to walk around friendless because I don't fit the typical mom look....I think F*ck you..If your not holding your end of the bargain at home..with a diet, and some makeup, ....then they deserve it....If your gonna make it so your kids have less..because you won't give more. Then my kids will gladly take it and so will I. My best revenge!!
Holiday
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Re:When a guy just shouldn't be there... (AKA, "What a MORON!)
That is so funny, but scary at the same time. People who don't take responsibility for their own actions worry me.
"The 'devil/stripper/casino dealer/whatever' made me do it, wahhhhhhhh!" :P
Get real.
It's kinda like that guy who was going to sue McDonald's for making him fat. Like McD's employees were breaking into his house, force-feeding him Big Macs against his will. :o
As far as taking their money, why shouldn't they?!?! If not them, someone else will, definately! If there were no strip clubs, I'm sure "Corey" and others like him would find other ways to spend all their $$$.
Reminds me of a saying, something about fools and money. :D
Peace & Hugs