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NYC clubs with thick girls??
Hey there,
I'm thinking about stripping to pay for my last year of college. The problem is that I'm 5'4" and 145 lbs. Are there any clubs in NYC that hire thick girls?
Obviously, I don't expect to make hundreds a night, but I do want to work at a place that does regular business and isn't always empty. $75-100 a night would be perfect for me.
If anyone could help me out with suggestions, I'd really appreciate it!
~Kira
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I would suggest New York Dolls. They are not too picky, though same owners as Flashdancers run it. It's downtown at 59 Murray Street, between Church and Broadway. Give it a try, good luck : )
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I went to VIP thursday night as a customer andf alot of the girls were not really in shape and a liitle thick- I heard alot of the girls have had problems there though with getting there funny money cashed.
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Originally Posted by chrissy link=board=4;threadid=6095;start=msg66870#msg66870 date=1075078015
I went to VIP thursday night as a customer andf alot of the girls were not really in shape and a liitle thick- I heard alot of the girls have had problems there though with getting there funny money cashed.
Eeek, that is not cool. ???
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The funny money issue is a legacy from the former owners of VIP, who stiffed the dancers on funny money cash-ins. As a result of the bad rep that developed, virtually every dancer who had the "qualifications" to work at another club moved on, probably leaving behind girls who fit the description of "thick" and "out of shape".
Now that the club is under new management, I would doubt that similar problems with funny money will persist in the future. Actually, the Lace group does not use funny money at any club they previously owned as far as I know. However, "old debts" like the unpaid funny money from VIP's former owners are technically not the responsibility of any new owners unless specifically stated in the terms of the buyout, meaning that in all likelihood these dancers who are owed lots of cash by the previous owners will never get their funny money cashed in.
Also, knowing a bit about other clubs run by the Lace group, I would not be surprised to see top notch dancers "imported" into VIP from the other clubs which Lace operates, followed by the quick dismissal of dancers who are "thick" and "out of shape". After all, the new owners now have a huge mortgage payment to make every month as a result of the buyout, and they're not going to be content with the club only attracting a handful of el-cheapo customers who are satisfied by mediocre dancers. They'll want to appeal to more upscale customers with more generous spending habits, and accomplishing that in Manhattan means offering dancers at VIP who "measure up" to dancers in the other top shelf Manhattan clubs.
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Thanks everyone who replied to the post or PM'd me. Now I have a second question.
Of the clubs that hire thick girls, does NYC have any like the ones in Atlanta where the clientele is actually there because they WANT to see thick girls, rather than, as Melonie put it, because they're just el-cheapo?
I'd feel a lot more comfortable in a place where the guys actually liked seeing me dance, instead of seeing me as mediocre and low class. I'm willing to take what I can get until I finish losing weight though, just wondering if there's anything else out there.
~Kira
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Kira, that's a question that only experience can answer. In general, the upscale manhattan club image of dancers slants heavily toward the "classic" model and showgirl look.
In regard to other Lace owned clubs also using funny money, all I can say is that I have never ever seen a customer use funny money at any of the Laces or Stilettos I've been to, or at GGR. With a $20 per $100 overcharge, I can understand why it's not too popular !
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Kira dear,
I'm a born and raised New Yorker and I don't think I've ever been to a club that was exclusively for "thick" women.
You may want to try Private Eyes. They are sort of in between Flashdancers (gown--model types) and NY Dolls. Owned and run by the same people and share dancers, although all three have their regulars. The dancers seem to be more "real" and the money is about the same I would guess.
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Hey I know that clubs outside of NYC are more tolerable about a girls size. You should try Sin City or Mirage in the Bronx. Alson what ethnicity are you? And minus that body what does your face look like? There are many clubs in NJ that a pretty girl who is thick can make at least $300 a night. If you want to trek out to NJ you should try AJ's, Nardones, Heartbreakers, Centerfolds, or Shakers. These are decent not showy gogo bars that have very girls that range in looks and body type.
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Sue's Rendezvous in Mount Vernon,Westchester County New York is somewhat similar to a down south booty shaking/pole climbing club. I hear the girls do quite well, Alot of high rollers or those wanting to impress. Its very normal for a customer to try to impress other clientele or dancers by showering them with hundreds of singles or maybe its his way of saying I appreciate you!!!
Its about a 20 minute train ride from Grand Central The address is 96 Grammatan Ave,(which is one of the main streets in Mount Vernon about a 5 minute walk from Metro-North Train Station
The club's number is(914) 664-5747. I've never worked there its was too close for comfort. I use to live about 4 blocks from it. I hear the lap dances are now $25.00. I think the dancers are predominantly black and latina.
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Thanks for the suggestions! I'm new to dancing -- I've only danced 3 times and I haven't danced at all in NY. I went to Hustler Club and was put on the wait list. I think that means that I just didn't get the job, even though I was Hustler material in my old city.
Anyhow, I've heard of Sue's Rendezvous but I've been a little hesitant to go because of the type of dancers/the type of environment there. I can only imagine that if it is like the clubs in MD especially Baltimore, the atmosphere is not the safest and it is a little (or very) ghetto. I don't want to get into it with some dancer who thinks that I think that I'm "too cute" or "all that" or something alomg those lines. Plus, I don't want to go by myself and none of my friends dance so...in the meantime, I'll be working my behind off, literally and clearing my skin so that I can get into a more upscale Manhattan club, like Hustler's b/c that atmosphere/clientele is more my speed. I mean, I don't hear of fights breaking out in those clubs.
Does anyone have any suggestions for the work-outs part?
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kira, 145 at 5',2" is a bit heavy for anny "good" clubs. in manhattan, you could try some of the smaller places, like Legz diamonds or Carnaval.
In Queens, they arent so picky at most clubs (with the exception Gallaghers or Riviera)--if youre hispanic, Scandals may like you. you can also try Cityscapes or Phenomenon (most of the dancers are heavier there). and yes, these clubs can get ghetto on the weekends. work earlier shifts or just during the week and catch the courthouse people or construction workers. the good news is that the house fees are pretty low. Goldfingers hires anything that walks through the door. in most cases though, you will make more than your projected 75-100 a night with a decent amount of hustle (regardless of your body type).
sue's rendevous is actually sort of picky...they are more likely to hire hispanic girls or light skinned black girls. many of them may be thicker, but they are NOT out of shape...they often have ass implants or shots. Sin City in the Bronx has similar look...they can be picky too. these clubs are into the video girl look--if thats you, then you should look.
the reality is...most men will want a dancer that is even-proportioned with an unnoticable amount of cellulite and stretch marks...at any size.
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Is there a reason why you want to dance instead of just waitress somewhere? Sometimes the tipouts at clubs can be expensive..also shoes and outfits..
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Speaking of Riviera in Queens does anyone have any info about this club? Is it busy or is there money there? Seems like a nice club but the reviews on SCL are pretty bad. I'm wondering which is better Riviera, Gallaghers, Goldfingers or Scandals, I live in Manhattan but rather work in Queens when it comes to dancing, I'm currently a massage girl at Flashdancers, Private Eyes and NY Dolls.
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Originally Posted by AkashaM
kira, 145 at 5',2" is a bit heavy for anny "good" clubs. in manhattan, you could try some of the smaller places, like Legz diamonds or Carnaval.
In Queens, they arent so picky at most clubs (with the exception Gallaghers or Riviera)--if youre hispanic, Scandals may like you. you can also try Cityscapes or Phenomenon (most of the dancers are heavier there). and yes, these clubs can get ghetto on the weekends. work earlier shifts or just during the week and catch the courthouse people or construction workers. the good news is that the house fees are pretty low. Goldfingers hires anything that walks through the door. in most cases though, you will make more than your projected 75-100 a night with a decent amount of hustle (regardless of your body type).
sue's rendevous is actually sort of picky...they are more likely to hire hispanic girls or light skinned black girls. many of them may be thicker, but they are NOT out of shape...they often have ass implants or shots. Sin City in the Bronx has similar look...they can be picky too. these clubs are into the video girl look--if thats you, then you should look.
the reality is...most men will want a dancer that is even-proportioned with an unnoticable amount of cellulite and stretch marks...at any size.
Riviera is not picky at all. I got hire when it first opened. I know people that still work here I was still working at Sin City which have a variety of girls. It use to be a gown club but now you could wear whatever you want. I wouldnt go back because I dont like the Bronx that much. As for Phenom the girls are not heavier at all. That was the last club I worked at before I got pregnant. I my average weigh is 115-120, and I'm 5'3. The biggest girl there was no more than 135, I think. All of us was in shape. So that's not true. But I have to admit the men in there are too young and rude. And they smoke in there. I wouldnt go back.
I prefered to work in Queens because I know the clubs better and they are more excepting to girls of all races. I live in Brooklyn and none of there clubs are good.
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Originally Posted by DREAM5165
Speaking of Riviera in Queens does anyone have any info about this club? Is it busy or is there money there? Seems like a nice club but the reviews on SCL are pretty bad. I'm wondering which is better Riviera, Gallaghers, Goldfingers or Scandals, I live in Manhattan but rather work in Queens when it comes to dancing, I'm currently a massage girl at Flashdancers, Private Eyes and NY Dolls.
I'll find out how Riviera is doing now and the tipout now because it could have changed since the last time I was there and I'll PM you. I know the DJ that works there.
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Why not dance in one of those clubs, you already know management (or is that why you don't want to dance there??) I used to dance at flash.
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There Is Some Kinda Stupid Rule Amongst The Club Where Massage Girls Are Not Allowed To Get Hired As Dancers In Their Clubs, We Actually Work For A Middle Man Who Pays A Percentage To The Club, This Is The Only Company That Works This Way, Which I'm Sick Of. Every Other Club In The City Massage Girls Pay A Fee To Work There Every Night And Keep The Rest, We Dont Do That We Give About 40% Of Our Money Because The Club Wants A Cut And So Does The Middleman. It's Ridiculous But We Cannot Be Dancers There As Well As Dancers Cant Become Massage Girls. I Rather Dance Further Away Anyway.
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Originally Posted by AkashaM
kira, 145 at 5',2" is a bit heavy for anny "good" clubs. in manhattan, you could try some of the smaller places, like Legz diamonds or Carnaval.
In Queens, they arent so picky at most clubs (with the exception Gallaghers or Riviera)--if youre hispanic, Scandals may like you. you can also try Cityscapes or Phenomenon (most of the dancers are heavier there). and yes, these clubs can get ghetto on the weekends. work earlier shifts or just during the week and catch the courthouse people or construction workers. the good news is that the house fees are pretty low. Goldfingers hires anything that walks through the door. in most cases though, you will make more than your projected 75-100 a night with a decent amount of hustle (regardless of your body type).
sue's rendevous is actually sort of picky...they are more likely to hire hispanic girls or light skinned black girls. many of them may be thicker, but they are NOT out of shape...they often have ass implants or shots. Sin City in the Bronx has similar look...they can be picky too. these clubs are into the video girl look--if thats you, then you should look.
the reality is...most men will want a dancer that is even-proportioned with an unnoticable amount of cellulite and stretch marks...at any size.
Whoa. Wow Akasha- thanks for the heads up. I guess this is where all the travellin' Atlanta women I've seen in my club dance when they go to NY.
Any other suggestions? I'm 158 lbs/ 5' 11". I'll try to dig up a pic.
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Well, according to Tini, Riviera is no longer picky. many of my friends auditioned and didnt get hired, when they first opened. I was hired, but i didnt go back.
As for Phenom...Ive seen chicks there that have bangin ass bodies, like any other club, but I have also seen some nasty looking chicks with fucked up looking bodies-im talking madddd stretch marks, bullet wounds, tons of cottage cheese...they pretty much hire anyone that walks thru the door...i know this for a fact...i worked for their sister clubs, Cityscapes and Rouge and know many of the dancers from phenom...my bf and i go there to hang out sometimes. However, I dont think I'd ever work there...the guys are too ghetto for me--they often throw things at the dancers. but heavier girls gotta start somewhere until they lose the weight.
The guys at Cityscapes are friendlier, but i never liked the donut shaped stage system anyways-- i dont want to fight a guy over a dollar. I used to get fucking steamed when guys would roll thier eyes when you came up to them for a tip, and they just wave you off or get pissy with you for having the audacity to talk to them. the opposite of course is when you get showered with $800, cuz some rich drug dealer likes you--YAY!
Wow, PleasureV, 5 feet 11? thats so hot! I wish I were that tall! I dont what your body type is but you may have a good advantage--men like tall women. I remember being at SinCity, they had a few "brick house" chicks, they were really sexy.
As for the best place in Queens..its hard to say. I liked Gallaghers managment--very professional, the fees were ok, and they have a big dressing room, a day shift, and lots of feature dancers...they spend good money on advertising. I just didnt like the stage...way too narrow, 2 poles and 4-5 dancers onstage. My back couldnt handle ducking under the bar to get on stage, so i didnt stay long, but girlfriend loves it there.
Scandals is beautiful, busy, they have features too, the fees are low, but i just didnt feel comfortable there...and thier manager is very rude, but everyone else is cool. and that lapdance ticket scheme is annoying; id rather just keep my own money.
Cityscapes--i worked there for a year. Its a big orgy there...everyone knows it too..the customers ALWAYS ask for sex b/c they know thry can get it. however the managment is cool esp if the owner thinks he can get you in bed. most of bouncers are idiots.
anyways just read the club reviews on here--everyones experience is different
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Akasha, I never saw any girls with bullet wounds but then again I did not work here for a long time....lol. I was suppose to work at Citiscapes as well, but decided not. I have 2 friends working at Rouge but it always seemed empty.
As for Riviera why I say it's no picky is because I'm dark skin. Maybe I'm under estimating myself. But I didnt really audition and they hired right away. All they ask me to do was look at my chest and stomach(which I had twins and I'm very insecure about that, but I had a flat tummy). I was shock went they gave me a schedule.
Also, everyone stay away from Infinity.
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Wow, PleasureV, 5 feet 11? thats so hot! I wish I were that tall! I dont what your body type is but you may have a good advantage--men like tall women. I remember being at SinCity, they had a few "brick house" chicks, they were really sexy.
Thanks Akasha. So far it's been a double-edged sword. I stand out but with those heels on I'm 6'4" at least. I hear alot of "You're so cute/sexy/whatever but too tall" :-\
Here's the best body shot I could find..it's a nude shot- (sorry about that)I made it small.
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Are there any other BX clubs that aren't too dangerous?
Tini- a while back a friend and I was going to Infinity to check it out. The area was really deserted and neither of us had a car at the time so we skipped it. Looked to scary to take a train to.
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Originally Posted by PleasureVictim
I hear alot of "You're so cute/sexy/whatever but too tall" :-\
I get them saying BIG instead of tall, which makes me feel fat. Even when I was uberskinny they still said "youre so big" and when I got offended "No I mean that in a good way"
Tho I DO get loads of athlete regulars, they avoid the petite girls cos they are just too small in proportion to the custie
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Don't f*ck with Infinity!! They have assaults and gang activity out there. I cruised by and some guys were milling outside and I was afraid to get out of the car even with my boyfriend there--and I've lived in Harlem. It's a real bad vibe.
You might like Crazy Horse in the Bronx. It's about two blocks from the Westchester line. You can walk there from the 5 or 6 train during daylight. Don't do it at night though. Spring for the 5 minute cab ride. Check out Sue's Rendezvous as well.
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Originally Posted by sexy_celeste
I get them saying BIG instead of tall, which makes me feel fat. Even when I was uberskinny they still said "youre so big" and when I got offended "No I mean that in a good way"
Tho I DO get loads of athlete regulars, they avoid the petite girls cos they are just too small in proportion to the custie
Either way it's shitty. If any of them called me big- I'd start laughing right in their face. I'd say "I'm big?? Wait 'till the 200lb dancer walks out here. Idiot" :D
I've even considered going down in heel height- but I like my platforms...fuck 'em.