Re:Group of guys @ a table
When I do approach a group of guys, wait, IF I approach a group of guys, I do one of 2 things.
I either ask one guy and if he declines, I will say something like "I'll check back with you later." and I make sure to smile and all that stuff.
OR
I will approach the table and make intros with everyone. Then most of the time, I will ask what the occasion is (alot of times there is one), to start small talk or find out who the bday boy or bachelor or newly divorced guy is. This way you can find out who is the most likely to buy a dance/have a dance bought for him. Then you can take it from there.
Like I said, I do the above IF I approach a group, which is rare, so I can't wait to see the other responses!
Re:Group of guys @ a table
Approaching a group of guys can be very lucrative if you play your cards right. Generally speaking, if there is a group of three or more guys in a party, they are there for a specific reason more than just to "go to a strip club". Usually it's because of a bachelor party, divorse party, birthday, or sometimes just a "guys night out". Depending on which of these it is should dictate what your strategy is.
If the group of guys is there to focus on one of them (bachelor, divorse, etc.) then you have a big advantage. When you approach the party, ask how they are and elicit the reason they are there. If the reason is to focus on one person, then you will want to appeal to the group to take care of him. For example, if it's a bachelor party, you should say something similar to, "So, Bob here is the lucky guy tonight! Who here wants him to have a little fun right now?" Appeal to the group like that, and you'll be surprised how easy it is to get a gift from them for their friend of a dance or two. Perhaps more if you work the group right. Once you are done with the guy of focus, then you should appeal to the group and see if they want a dance. You'd be surprised. In a group of five guys, probably one of them was saving a 20 or two for himself that he didn't tell you about. Just turn to the group and say, "Okay, who's next?" or better yet, "I'm sure Bob here will tell you just how much fun that was for him...which of you guys want one now?" There are a lot of other powerful techniques to get the sale better, and these should get you on the right path anyway.
Also, if it just a group of guys, like a "guys night out" then just appeal to the group. No's lead to no's, and yes's lead to yes's. If you go to one guy in a group and he says he isn't interested or come back later, you just shot your odds way down on getting a sale from other guys in the group. When one person says "no", then even if another guy may have been interested in a dance or two, he may be likely to say "no" as well, because he will subconsciously figure that if his friend didn't want you there, he shouldn't impose by having you there either and another dancer will be around eventually anyway.
When you aproach the group better as a group, all it takes is one person to say "yes" then you're in. One "yes" in the group will not only make a sale for you, but may even lead to more when you are done with that guy. In this type of group situation you are better off talking to the group as a group and go from there.
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If it is a duo (only 2 guys).. then one dancer approaching is okay. If it is a group of 3 or more.. I like to then elicit the assistance of another dancer esp. one that I can work with... sometimes this increases the chance of getting one of the group of guys to say YES (hence, like Dancer Wealth stated, enabling you to sell to the others). All it takes is for one of the two dancers to "hit it off" with one of the guys and then the second dancer can play off this by concentrating on the other guys.
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Approaching groups use up too much energy.
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It might use up too much energy however it helps to know this information if all the single guys are taken (as in already have a dancer talking with them) and/or the single guys aren't buying (does happen...)
Also.. Friday shifts at my club will attract groups of guys (more boys night out type of groups).. whereas Saturdays attracts "focused groups" (ie bucks and birthday parties).
I personally found this information invaluable.
Re:Group of guys @ a table
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Originally Posted by Glamazon link=board=9;threadid=6569;start=msg72806#msg72806 date=1076559029
When I do approach a group of guys, wait, IF I approach a group of guys, I do one of 2 things.
I either ask one guy and if he declines, I will say something like "I'll check back with you later." and I make sure to smile and all that stuff.
OR
I will approach the table and make intros with everyone. Then most of the time, I will ask what the occasion is (alot of times there is one), to start small talk or find out who the bday boy or bachelor or newly divorced guy is. This way you can find out who is the most likely to buy a dance/have a dance bought for him. Then you can take it from there.
Like I said, I do the above IF I approach a group, which is rare, so I can't wait to see the other responses!
My approach is the same as Glam's, accept I always go to groups if they seem promising. I usually end up making a lot of money off the table. I generally introduce myself to the group as a whole.
The key is remaining confident.
Good luck,
Farrah
Re:Group of guys @ a table
Groups can good money earners but you always need the right frame of mind in approaching them. Most want a fun-time girl and it can be a pain if you don't have a fun-time attitude. Another problem is that with groups, the guys are more likely to have you 'passed around' which means it's harder to milk all of the money from one guy.
Sometimes I try them, but mostly I prefer to concentrate my efforts on the one guy that looks like he needs a beautiful lady to sit on his lap for half the night.
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I don't like approaching groups of guys. A lot of times guys in a group (especially if they are young) are just there to hang out and drink with their friends, and they don't spend much money. I will only approach a group of 3 or more guys if there is no one else in the club to approach. I've found that guys who are there by themselves or with one other guy are more open to getting lap dances. :)
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i never go up to a group of guys,there only one dance people,but if you do here's a tip: go to the table,focus on one guy whisper in his ear your sales pitch if he says no then recomend that he buy a dance for one of his friends if not leave the table
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I approach a groupe of guys to get stage tips. It's pretty risky to ask one guy for a lap dance that's in a group because you may have lost a potential dance. But if it's a b-day ora bachelor party I usually ask the guy that seems the most interested if he wants a dance and if he declines I ask him if he wanted to get the b-day boy or bachelor one instead. This usually works unless they both have their eye on a different girl.
Re:Group of guys @ a table
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Originally Posted by Malibu link=board=9;threadid=6569;start=msg72998#msg72998 date=1076612957
Groups can good money earners but you always need the right frame of mind in approaching them. Most want a fun-time girl and it can be a pain if you don't have a fun-time attitude. Another problem is that with groups, the guys are more likely to have you 'passed around' which means it's harder to milk all of the money from one guy.
Sometimes I try them, but mostly I prefer to concentrate my efforts on the one guy that looks like he needs a beautiful lady to sit on his lap for half the night.
Being passed around from guy to guy is good as it is good advertisement. Plus if one or two of the guys patronize the club from time to time they will likely remember how fun you were dancing for their group and when by themselves will buy from you.
Plus every time you work there won't be deep pocket guys in the club alone that you can work for hundreds of dollars. If you can work the table right as Dancer Wealth says, you may sell 5-6 dances or even more to the group which is good money.
Guys who feel that they have been "milked" oftentimes won't come back because they feel they have blown too much money in the club for nothing. And a lot of excessive milking has caused this business to get slower in my opinion.
I don't care who I make my money off of. I have recently had guys ask me why girls won't come over to their table. These guys bought from me. We are there to make money and whether the money comes one dance at a time, in dollars, or on tabs we have to find a way to make what we can off of every customer in the club. It all adds up in the end and when you're at the mall the next day and you see a cute outfit you want to buy and you're a little short, you'll wish you worked the floor harder and didn't discriminate against certain types of customers. ;)
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I so much prefer the tables of one or two guys over big groups. A single guy is almost always there for lapdances, while a group is there to drink and party. Plus, almost all big groups are young guys who seem to think we should hang out for free. When and if I see a big group of over 35 year olds, thats the FIRST table I'll hit, as they prob have an expense account or a big credit card tab.
As for the young guys, they are usually more of a pain in my ass, hard to sell dances to, with too much whooping, obnoxious behavior. I will go up to them, but only after I've worked every other table in the club.
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While it does take alot of energy, I approach a group of guys with humor. I sit down in the middle, make some stupid joke and introduce myself, yadda yadda yadda. At the very least, one will usually by a dance for one of his friends in the group.
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Walk past really slowly and see who's checking you out. Approach him first. Try to talk to at least a couple more guys at the table to increase your chances for dancing. Offer your special bachelor party dance - you should always have a few tricks in your bag for this kind of thing, whether it be some really acrobatic moves, something you do with a prop, or something humiliating to do to the bachelor/birthday boy. I do a special bachelor dance that I can charge more for and it usually will get me a couple more dances from the table and other parties.
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i am so with you, blondhottie! i usually don't approach a table with more than a party of 3. i don't have that big-party-attitude some girls have (i'm with you there malibu!). from time to time we get some groups of younger guys in, mostly around the examn weeks or when military draws (boys are drawn after school here). i don't like these occasions because they arn't here because of dances (duuh - those guys have like, no money...) but to drink and party and show each other that they "can".
if there is a group and i've got to go there i will check them out and see what they are about, like whom they are taxing on stage or checking who's the one that's leading the group. convincing him gets you the table.
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wow...you guys would never make it at the club I work at...it's a juice bar....18-25 year olds after 9 at night. You have to talk to the large groupes of young guys in order to get dances. Don't assume young guys don't buy dances, you just have to approach it differently than you do the older guys.. AS much as I hate to admit it.... I have at least 10 regulars under 21 that come in and always buy at least 2-4 lap dances a night from me. They have given me tons of expensive gifts.. But then again the club I work at isn't like most other clubs...
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I agree that tables of young guys are harder to sell than if they are over 35. I don't do well with the young guys with some exceptions.