i was just wondering what you all consider the real definition of a 9 or 10 girl? i mean how pretty and in shape does she have to be? and what really distinguishes a 9 from a 10?
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i was just wondering what you all consider the real definition of a 9 or 10 girl? i mean how pretty and in shape does she have to be? and what really distinguishes a 9 from a 10?
Well, I kinda hate the whole "number rating system"- to me people are usually pass/fail instead lol. BUT....
A woman can be a 9 or 10 and not really have to be pretty or in shape. There are so many facets to beauty that the definining traits are different for all women. A woman with some extra pounds, doesn't work out yet has very feminine curves and pretty eyes can be in the 9+ club.. by the same token, a hard-body that works out a ton, tan and slender can also hit that margin as well.Quote:
i mean how pretty and in shape does she have to be?
To me- it's usually flair, style, grace, charm, charisma, etc.etc. It's something non-physical that just simply exudes from them into the physical.. hard to explain.Quote:
and what really distinguishes a 9 from a 10?
A 9 is REALLY hot, turns all the heads when she walks through a room, but a 10 will have them forgetting the 9 just by shifting on her foot. The 9 is better looking than most woman, nice body, nice face, nice hair, well put-together, etc, but there is a small thing about her that makes her not a 10 - maybe crooked teeth, or big nose....something minor but still not 'perfect'.
I agree that there is always more to beauty than just appearance. I also know that many supermodels when not made-up to be the way you see them in a magazine often look quite plain. It's just that they have good skin, good facial structure, good color eyes, hair that works well, etc.
If you really want to get down to brass tacks though, the difference between a "9" and a "10" is the girl that makes the cover of Vogue and the girl that gets asked to "come back another time". :)
I don't believe there actually is a 10, that to me means perfect and since the only perfect person is an asshole...there can be no 10.
a 9 to me is my wife.(man i can kiss some serious butt)
I don't really agree with the whole rating system myself, but it's a convienent tool to use ...
One persons 10 may be another's 5. For instance some would rate PAm Anderson a 10 but the whole fake boobs, bleach blond thing doesn't do anything for me so I'd give her a 8, yet I love Vanessa Williams look and persona and I'd give her a 10 although someone else would give her a 8. If you look, feel and act YOUR best then I think thats a 10
A 10 gets hired instantly at Penthouse Executive Club, while a 9 is told "check back, because were all booked up right now".
I think this is a good topic to bring up. However, I don't like the rating system either. It is an individual tailored thing and shouldn't be taken seriously. You see, I don't think there is such a thing as the 'perfect 10'. There have been girls I have seen that in my eyes, are stunners but maybe some guys are like,"yeah, she's hot, but not THAT hot!". Each to their own...
I think that anyone has what it takes to be someone's '10' because every guy and girl has their image of what constitutes beatiful. Although it's true, certain images are probably more popular than others, but I blame that in part on the media. :P
To me a 10 is someone that is shockingly beautiful. When one appears, you are usually knocked out, and as you look them over, you can find no wrong. A 9 is not that dramatic looking, you just know when you see a 10. It doesn't happen very often with me. They have that extra special something... Personality is a factor. A 10 can lose a point with unattractive actions or speech. It is definitely based on what the individual person sees, depending on their tastes, experiences, and knowledge.
Always remember 10 is not perfect! And you will feel better about you! Some nights i felt like a complete 10, and would check to see if the guys are looking at me, i felt as though, "yep i am it."
Other nights i could not get my hair right, the makeup looked all wrong etc.
NO ONE is ever a consistant ten. Ever!
We pretty much hang around the 5 to 7 range i think for all people who are "good looking."
I can't think of one person who is a 10. Looks may help get in the door, after that you better have more going for you.
The numbers score is BS. I have seen some dancers on Stern from Scores in NY and some are just Plain janes.
A 10 depends on who is interested in you when it comes to dancing. Thats all.
Pamela
I gotta agree with the perception aspect, but I think a true 10 is still one who gets ALL the attention in a room. Put together a room full a beautiful women and then bring in a bunch of guys. There will be one who will get more attention than the rest, not doing anything, just being there. She will have strikingly beautiful looks, but she will also have presence, without doing anything. That's the 10.
I do have to agree with Pam's idea that we all fluctuate on the looks scale. Attitude does play into it, whether we realize it or not.....some days we're on it and some we're not.
I also gotta agree that quite alot of the Scores girls on Stern aren't really all that, certainly not 10s. In fact, alot of girls at most upscale clubs really aren't all that physically. A little belly here, bad hair there, a little cellulite over there, bad skin abounds, etc. I've walked into many many many clubs where I heard tons of raving about how stunning and gorgeous all the girls were, only to find that they really weren't that fantastic, save for a few. Maybe I'm more critical being a dancer and being used to seeing loads of gorgeous women all the time. Maybe I'm a bit jaded too. Maybe there are just too many clubs in more recent years hiring too many girls, lowering the hiring standards. I tend to think it's probably a comvination of all three.
Hopefully no one takes any of this rating thing too seriously.
Right once again Bridgette...
The only one who should care about numbers is "The Count".
hyah...ha...ha...
:teacher:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder :drunk:
Just wondering..have any of you ever seen a girl without makeup, who just looks really plain..Then she comes to work, does her hair and makeup and all the sudden...DROP DEAD GORGEOUS?? On the other hand, there are girls who are just naturally beautiful, without trying who make less money than the ones who have to work so hard to be pretty? I don't know if this makes any sense to anyone but me, just something I've noticed.
well im about a 6, so i dont care for those in the 8+ catogary!! haha it would be nice tho......hmmm one can dream!
I think this question needs to be clarified. If we are speaking of a DANCER, I agree that no one is a ten all the time and personality definately plays a role. However, IMO, a GIRL woulbe be considered a 10 to me if she was above average looking, had a great personality, good morals, was self sufficient, educated, and had a healthy lifestyle in and out of the club. A DANCER can be a 10 at work, but as soon as their shift is up, they go home to a boyfriend/husband who beats or belittles them, or to three kids who all have different fathers. A real 9 or 10 in my book has to be a girl always striving to make herself a better person in real life. I know the prettiest dancer in my club (the one all the guys consider close to a 10) is a heroin addict and two months pregnant (yes she does this while pregnant) and is a complete head trip. So she might appear to be a 10 for a few hours a day but I wouldn't trade places with her for any amount of money in the world.
mermaidnz, if that is you on your avatar you are WAYYYYY above a 6, especially your body...can't see your face too well cuz the pic is small
I have a girl that works at the club who just doesn't fir the the typical "stripper bod" (according to magazines) but she has this grace and fluidity that the men love. Her body is very, very curvy and almost goddess like and she doesn't have the prettiest face but she does make a ton of money
I agree entirely. The ONLY time that "ratings" have any relevance at all is in terms of clubowners' decisions to hire one girl but to not hire another girl. As other posters have pointed out, many many dancers who are not 9's and 10's do indeed make very good money. However, this is based on the presumption that the dancer was able to be hired in a good earnings potential club in the first place, otherwise she would not have access to free spending customers in the high earnings potential club and would be earning much less in a club where the owner's hiring standards were less demanding but where customer spending habits were much lower as well. This all depends on how competitive the dance club market is in the particular city you work in.Quote:
Maybe I'm more critical being a dancer and being used to seeing loads of gorgeous women all the time. Maybe I'm a bit jaded too. Maybe there are just too many clubs in more recent years hiring too many girls, lowering the hiring standards. I tend to think it's probably a comvination of all three.
Hopefully no one takes any of this rating thing too seriously.
I also agree that as bad economic conditions have affected many clubs, some clubs have turned to charging their dancers outrageous stage fees as a means of boosting sagging club income (I believe Scores now charges 200+ per night for popular shifts, close to $300 with tipouts included). In this case it is in the clubowner's interest to hire as many girls as possible even if not all of the girls willing to pay these huge stage fees and tipouts are 9's and 10's. I question the wisdom of girls who are 8's deciding to pay $300 per night for the "privelege" of working at Scores, where they'll be competing head-on with other girls who are 9's and 10's to earn enough money to cover the stage fee and tipouts, but many obviously choose to do so.
I think the girls who are in playboy are a perfect 10. I was brought up with images like that and that is what I perceive as beautiful.
In africa somewhere a short, fat women with a huge plate in her lip and piercing and tattoos covering her body is considered a 10.
Cultures yield all different perceptions of beauty. I am just thankful that now days we don't bind our feet or wear hot gowns with corsits that damage our organs. Although many women do indure plastic surgery....interesting.
my "10" will be someone elses "7" and vice-versa. Beauty, sexyness, etc. is in the eyes of the beholder!
hmmm well a stripper 10 is different. she is unbeleivable hot, but ALSO has that certain unexplainable something that just captivates you. a type of transfixing charm that you think about for days after meeting/seeing her. so along with the looks, the 10 has the ability to USE them to make all those that fall in her path completely dumbfounded.
A woman gets a :10: when you see her and it's like :cupid: :drool: :eye-popping: :hypnotized: :worship: :tongue-tied: and :lovestruck: all rapped into one.
Oh and mermaidnz you no 6 your more 9+ to little ol me.