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keeping a high-spendng regular
I recently met a guy that has been very generous with me and sees me on about a weekly basis for 3 weeks now. I make in one night with him what I'd make on three normal nights, so obviously I'd like to keep him around often and frequently.
He insists on seeing me outside the club. I really don't mind this since, even though there is intimacy, it's nothing more than I'd be willing to do in the club. The problem is that he wants more. He's made this clear. He will ask me how much for sex or something and I will tell him that I won't do it. He still keeps comng back, but I know what he ultimately wants. I've conisdered it, but I simply cannot stomach the idea of having sex with him. I know this can't last, so how do I stretch it out as long as posible?
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Re:keeping a high-spendng regular
Emily it always seems to happen. :( Guys who spend a lot of money in a short period of time either think that all that cash will get you to agree that sex is worth it, or they simply move on. I've had my share of those. :(
I'd say to continue talking to him, but tell him that sex is completely off limits. I would just take it for what its worth right now, since once he gets the picture I am sure he will stop. (I hate guys like this grrrrrrrrr)
good luck
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I am the one who would soak it up as long as I could and be very happy to say goodbye when he decided to move on to the next girl. If that is something he wants, then it is something he will get, eventually. I will not be that girl that will give it to him, but I am that girl that will lead him on as long as I could to get as much of his money out of him. Especially if he is that persistantly dumb to think I would decide to give in after I alreeady told him there was "NO" chance.
So, run with it, do not give in to something you don't want to do and just enjoy it while it lasts, there will be another one along shortly. :)
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that's the thing...I'm trying to lead him on as long as I can. I need tips on prolonging it as much as possible!
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Get him as drunk as possible when he comes in....
Give him a GFE in the club until he is physically satisfied without sex and emotionally tired....Grind on him until he comes in his pants. Once he has gotten off, he will be less inclined to pressure you....make sure you TALK TALK TALK....
At first he will like the GFE, and think you like him and he is making progress....it gives you a couple more sessions worth...keep in touch with him by email/IM chat.....plan a "date" with him....eventually he will get tired of "getting to know you" because he is in it for the fantasy....
This plan could go terribly wrong or you can make a couple large off of him.....
Just be prepared to walk away after about 2-3x more of this......reason I don't keep regulars....
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Kat stole my answer (mostly). Meow!
I give increased mileage and alternative mileage, slowly upping the doseage with each visit. Unbuttoning his shirt, allowing him to remove my skirt, buying him a drink, email contact, blah blah blah. All things that are technically TOTALLY against club policy, but that good girls can get away with on special occasions (or things dancers just don't ever consider). He gets no orgasm, I tell him (often) he ain't getting an orgasm, but progressively naughtier visits and dances and priviledges will hypnotize the customer. He isn't receiving what he wants, but curiousity compells him to spend regardless.
Like Kat said, this either turns out with him finally getting miffed and stomping out of VIP (usually right after I tell him for the umpteenth time he ain't gettin' none, but the first time he actually believes me) or he realizes this on his own and he suddenly just stops coming in. The alternate bad ending is where he gets grabby in VIP or tries to wait for you after work.
If you pride yourself on your ability to judge character (and his is horny but law-abiding), feel free to give it a go and see how long this works out. You'll need a throw-away email address. If you think he may turn psycho, coincidentally become very busy when he comes in. And never, ever fail to remind him that you will not be having sex with him, for any price.
Good luck.
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Tell him it takes time to build trust. Tell him you've been hurt before and you're afraid to get to close. Tell him you don't have sex with customers. Tell him he has the sexiest eyes/hands/whatever you've ever seen. Ask him if he can stop pressuring you and give you some time to develop trust with him.
Lena
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Re:keeping a high-spendng regular
thanks guys. So far we're at the level of kissing. He always tries to open his mouth and I keep it shut. The last time we kissed, he made a comment about how it wasn't what he wanted. So, I think I will have to swap spit with him next time (ick, but I can do it). I really want him to believe he's making progress. He actually said last time that "he likes a challenge"....so obviously he thinks he's making progress. He already has my phone number. I had to give him that after the first time.
I did use that develop trust bit on him when he said he wanted to take me away to Jamaica. Riiiiiiiiiight.
I like your tips guys, thanks.
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Just be nice and be who you are, that person he fell for. Pray it hangs as long as it can. Guys like this come and go alot when you dance for many years, yes you do lose them, even if you slept with him. He wants fun!
He will move on to another no matter what you do, really, you are his flavour of the week (or month) right now.
Don't sleep with him...PLEASE, he will move to another anyway, lots of 'players' come and go in this business. WOW....Some of the advice here is....so juvenile, and dangerous! GEE LADIES, CMON.
Pamela
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soon as you sleep with him the money will stop, dont forget that. girls make that mistake and wonder why he now thinks he's special and wont spend any more in the club. i know you said you wouldnt sleep with him, but i just wanted to throw that out there for others. this guy will eventually tire of the game no matter what you say or do. get it while you can and be prepared when he never comes back.
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Originally Posted by Emily link=board=9;threadid=7444;start=msg85201#msg85201 date=1079512628
So, I think I will have to swap spit with him next time (ick, but I can do it...
EWWWWWWW! Girl that is just nasty. I'd rather jack a dude off than kiss his nasty ass! You have no idea where that dude was before he came in the club. An hour ago his withered lips could been glued to some nasty street hookers twat so...ew. Really.
Let me tell you something about our customers. You DON'T want to kiss them!
Some drink piss, some eat shit, some just put their mouths on holes in the wall in bathroom stalls and swallow whatever comes poking through from the other side.
Lots of guys are bi. Remember if he is kissing you - a stripper who could have just as easily been sucking off some dude an hour before him - he is not very discriminating.
This guy is trying to turn you out. If he was a pimp and you fell for his game you'd be in deep trouble psychologically. The process of showering a girl with money than fucking with her mind is a crucial part of "breaking a ho".
My advice: don't get dependant on his cash and don't let him turn you out.
Good lines to keep handy: maybe when I get to know you betterand not tonight but maybe next time and I'll think about it ok?
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True, true. Keep in mind the herpes virus and mono can both be transferred orally. I've seen guys have a performer urinate into their mouth. :o A kiss on the cheek or neck is probably a safer way to go. :-*
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I do consider all this gravy....I'm not relying on it or him. I know it's short-lived, but I can nurture it to make it live longer. I don't know what to do next.
I want to increase the mileage to keep him interested. I don't WANT to kiss him, but what else is there? I know that's what he wants, at least for now. He kissed me after handing me ten $100 bills and I had my lips tightly pursed together and his response was "that wasn't a $1000 kiss" and I just smiled at him. I can't continue like this, but I want to keep the money coming.
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I wish you luck Emily you are very nice, but that money you are making off him could very well be paying doctors visits and prescriptions for the rest of your life. I agree with the other ladies about the kissing. Big NO NO.
Why not a little longer dance, more grinding, throw in a few free dances, there has to be another way that does not interfere with your health.
And please no lies to lead him on....Gee, he may go off on you after spending alot of money with hopes he'll get more.
Emily, trust me more guys like him will come along.
Stay safe,
Pamela
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One thing I do not do is lead a guy on with lies. I have been very clear about there being no sex. He tells me he likes a challenge.
Okay, no kissing.....you guys are right.
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From Page 1 of the book Vanilla's Advice For When A Customer Tries To Manipulate You Into Doing Stuff You Don't Want To Do Also known as How To Hustle.
Remember, he started it!
HIM: that wasn't a $1000 kiss
YOU: (smile) Maybe when I get to know you better *ear nibble*
HIM: You already know me pretty well.
YOU: Maybe when you get to know me better, then! *giggle and neck nibble*
HIM: I already know you pretty well.
YOU: [insert sexually charged question that he can't answer here i.e. your favorite sexual position or the age you lost your virginity. When he gives up answer the question for him]
HIM: Wow! You like it doggy style best? - or -Wow! you were a virgin until you were 26!?!?!
Now you have facilitated a topic change! Get good at that. It's one reason to keep the conversation fairly tame and non-sexual; there is more shock value when you do go in that direction.
Repeat that everytime he comes in.
Emily, that's all for now. BUT maybe when I get to know you better I'll tell you some more secrets ;)
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I have to say Vanilla.......damn thats clever, 8) Why cant I think of subtle twists like that??? OK maybe with more experience ;)
Hope you dont mind if I incorporate that one into my repetoire(sp?)
;D
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Nice hustling, i don't see it working for the better. I guess we just have different ways of treating customers.
I can't lead a guy on just for his $$$, too many men to replace him that don't need that mind fuck.
This may be only ONE reason dancers get a bad rep. Or end up with a combative customer, he spends and spends his pay on us only to hear "maybe when i get to know you better."
That's just my take on this 'game playing.'
Don't mess with me, my family, my home or my MONEY. Period.
Pamela
PS i am under "Hustle Hut," but remember customers read this too.
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Originally Posted by Pamela link=board=9;threadid=7444;start=msg85706#msg85706 date=1079630944
Nice hustling, i don't see it working for the better. I guess we just have different ways of treating customers.
I can't lead a guy on just for his $$$, too many men to replace him that don't need that mind fuck.
This may be only ONE reason dancers get a bad rep. Or end up with a combative customer, he spends and spends his pay on us only to hear "maybe when i get to know you better."
That's just my take on this 'game playing.'
I do admire your attitude, Pamela
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Originally Posted by Pamela link=board=9;threadid=7444;start=msg85706#msg85706 date=1079630944
PS i am under "Hustle Hut," but remember customers read this too.
Yes, and this board provides valuable lessons for customers, too! Such as, when a dancer says "maybe," it often means: "No, but I want you to keep spending money on me based on false hope."
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.......and plenty of them will keep spending because people don't want to hear the truth, they want to hear confirmation/validation about whatever they've created in their fantasy world....this does not necessarily pertain to stripperworld either....meow!
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When I used to work in DC I dealt with lots of crap from regulars too, but there's stage dancing only there and somehow that made it easier to keep them coming back for a bit longer.
Reading all this makes me really glad that I travel to New Orleans and Vegas to work, where regulars are pretty much a non-issue. I know a lot of girls can't travel (kids, school, etc...) and while it's easy for me to say I'd never do that, I can sympathize. Just don't do anything that you'll regret the next morning, though it already seems you're veering into that territory by your description of that kiss.
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Originally Posted by Pamela link=board=9;threadid=7444;start=msg85706#msg85706 date=1079630944
Nice hustling, i don't see it working for the better. I guess we just have different ways of treating customers....
Having different ways of treating customers? Um HELL YEAH!
Private shows for example: No rubbers, I never take checks, I always insist on cash and tips are ALWAYS welcome
Topic: Emily wants ways to keep this dude coming in. Did you give her an answer? Or did you just take it as an opportunity to hassle me and say the same tired thing you always say? Don't lead him on, don't hustle him blah blah blah
Dancers will always have a bad rep and so will customers. The SC is a hedonist, pagan, secular temple to the goddess and we live in a Judeo-Christian patriarchal theocracy with no love of naked women. Get used to it. Your pollyanna attitude is not going to change that.
News for ya Pam: when you look in a man's eyes and squeeze your tits together you are leading him on. When you smile at him at play with his hair and act like you give a shit about him you are leading him on. And you are doing it all for the money. It doesn't matter what you say because your actions speak louder than words. It's all a mindfuck; don't expect everyone to draw the line where you do.
If the guy didn't want his money messed with he wouldn't be cramming it in a strippers G-String. He's playing a game so she has every right to play right back. To the victor go the spoils and my money is on Emily!
If he gets shitty when he loses well that's EXACTLY what bouncers are for.
Nicole: Thanks for the compliment. That's why I post this stuff - so I can share the tricks of the trade so PLEASE use whatever works.
Customers reading: Here's an idea - you don't try to turn me into a whore and I won't let you have it with both barrels. Deal?
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Just my opinion that's all, nothing personal against you. You give out BAD advice for newbies, you must know this. I also tried this stuff, well thought about it anyway, and after dancing awhile seeing alot of dancers get ripped off or threatened i learned not to take that road. This was related to the games they played with customers heads.
And also one usually needs to be DRUNK as (vanilla ) speaks of for this to work.
Bad dancer practice, plain and simple. What happened to the good days when a women hustled by offering a few extra drinks so he would just feel comfortable and hang around longer for more dances. But lies, and leading a man on........Ok. When this guy no longer wants fantasy because it's what YOU think he wants to hear, bail your ass out safely. What happens to be the next plan in the book? Bailing your ass out of a customer who thought he was going to get laid? Just curious. IF it works for you more power to ya. And accepting cash only for services provided...Ok. :o
Play hard,
Play safe.
Pamela
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Vanilla i tell you what i have worked clubs along time. I squeeze my tits he thinks WOW nice tits! I say maybe later, what the hell you think is going through his mind then?
And no, i don't expect everyone to behave like me, i guess i am just floored by the advice here. Because some dancers use this stuff, your not the only one, and get into some serious shit, when the club has a trespass on this once high spender with the dancers, and lost a "once" good customer. Remember we do have the power to mess some guys up pretty damn good, it may seem like no big deal to us, but it is to them.
Pamela
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Originally Posted by vanilla_dog link=board=9;threadid=7444;start=msg85791#msg85791 date=1079643989
News for ya Pam: when you look in a man's eyes and squeeze your tits together you are leading him on. When you smile at him at play with his hair and act like you give a shit about him you are leading him on.
No, she isn't. I've never felt "led on" by a good lapdance or a friendly attitude. For instance, Pamela giving me a good lapdance and a friendly attitude is not going to make me think she is going to kiss me someday. There is no attempt there to make me think I'm going I'm to get something I'm not already getting. Any customer who jumps to conclusions from this behavior (and some do, I know) has only himself to blame.
On the other hand, let's say I ask her for a kiss and she says: "Maybe, when I get to know you better." And let's say she has zero intention of ever following through. That's a different (and ethically lower) game plan in my opinion.
Do I expect high ethical standards from dancers? Not really. But it sure is nice when I encounter them.