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not shy,try these for sure lines and tips
1) check out there atire! what they are wearing is important. suits are a plus,sweaters,dress shirts they scream money!
2) approach men who are sitting ALONE! why you ask,well because if they come in alone they are there for a reason and that is to spend money.plus conversation is so much easier when it's one on one!
here are a few lines that might make you feel awkward saying but hey you aren't you when you are at work you are so and so trying to make as much money as you can.
1) (this might sound "cutthroatish" but it works) there are dancers at clubs that don't make a lot of money to me l call them "prudes" but they are the girls who are so stuck in the rules.when they give a dance to a guy and they finish go up to that guy and say "l saw who you got a dance from,l bet you l can top it" they might drill you with questions so be prepared to come back with a good defense here's an instance: guy:"what makes you better?" you reply: " you have to come get a dance with me to find out" guy: "what if l don't like it?" you reply:"trust me no one ever gets just one dance from me,l'm the best" he'll be so intriguied with you that he'll have to get a dance.remember the dancer has to be one of the "broke dancers"
2)the object to me giving a dance is to get there dick hard,that's what they want so if you get a guys dick hard during a dance then you can use this for sure line.you:"hi l'm so and so would you like to come for a dance with me?garunteed to get your cock hard" what guy in there right mind would say no to that?
those are just a few of many but l can't give all of my lines away.please no negative feedback that's just me and the way l work,remember your working to make money not friends.
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You ask for no negative feedback, and I won't give you any, but.. I am not in the least bit shy but I would NEVER tell a guy that I'd gaurantee to get his cock hard. Why? Cause it just causes the wrong impression. I have to disagree with you on that statement. And I believe in rules. I believe in rules because I have been stalked in the past, and I believe in the rules because if I were to say that to a customer, 9 customers out of ten are going to think that I am a cheap whore, which I am not. They are going to get hard anyways, most of them do, that's why they go to strip clubs.
However, the first one, I have used and it does work. I also do not think that attire matters. I had a very well to do gent in our club, dressed in flip flops and a t shirt and a pair of shorts and he was wearing a visor. All the girls ignored him because he didn't look like he'd be the type to have any money for dances, plus, he was drinking water. After 15 minutes of conversation, we were talking, and then we went for private dances, I walked out with the equivalent of what I make in two weeks in a few hours and he comes back now. Some people won't dress nice on purpose.
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Originally Posted by Gynger link=board=9;threadid=7912;start=msg92729#msg92729 date=1081242925
Some people won't dress nice on purpose.
That is very true Gynger. I know a customer who is a millionaire; I have gotten to know him very well over the past couple of years. He spends money on all the dancers as long as they are not rude. Of course, there are certain girls that he likes more than others, but he will at least tip every girl on stage unless she is very rude. He does NOT dress like a rich man at all. He typically wears t-shirts with funny or dirty jokes on them, jeans, and sneakers. Most girls don't sit with him because he doesn't look like a big spender. After I got to know him very well, one day I said "No offense, but a girl would never be able to tell that you have money just by looking at you." He smiled and said that he dresses this way on purpose. He has nicer clothing, but he doesn't want girls using him for his money, and he dresses for comfort, not style.
The flip side is also true. Just because a guy is wearing a business suit, that doesn't mean that he has money or that he is willing to spend it. Some guys dress nice just to look important. ::) I've had guys in business suits be rude and condescending towards me, try to touch me all over, and not even buy one dance or drink. Dressing nicely does not always equal class. The bottom line, never judge a book by its cover! ;)
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Yeah, I generally stay away from suits, at least the all-buttoned-up kind. The guys with REAL money to spend either don't wear suits to the club or have them all unbuttoned (ties loosened, top buttons undone, coat off or open) when they come in. Shoes and watches are more often a better indicator. Also the quality of the shirt. It may be just an ordinary-looking shirt, but when you get closer and touch it you can see and feel the difference in quality. When you touch a real high quality fabric shirt, perk up because it's SCREAMING money and a loose wallet. You can tell the difference with these shirts, the look and feel stands out.
Also I play a different angle with the 'best dancer' thing. I refuse to tell someone I'll give a better dance than so and so or I'm the best, or that I even do a good dance at all. If they ask whether I'm good or whatever, I get sarcastic and say, "nah, I suck" or "oh I don't do a good dance at all". That intrigues them and they have to get a dance to see. :biggrin:
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I don't know about some of the stuff you said and kind of agree with Gynger. Plus I take it you work at a contact club. What if you work at a no contact club. You could be giving the customer the wrong impression of what goes on during a dance here is a variation on this:
"Are you horney do you need a dance?" (YOU)
"I don't know how good is it?"(CUSTOMER)
"I get no complaints?"(YOU)
"OK!!" (CUSTOMER)
This way you are not implying you will break the rules with the same effect. ;D
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I unashamably pull the "top earner" card out as a sales closure tactic, and its effective. Guys want the girl in demand to spend time with them. Also, I maje sure that my statement exudes confidence....depending on how this is said, can appeal to young and middle ages guys alike....they MUST try out the finest of the goods afterall.......
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Originally Posted by Gynger link=board=9;threadid=7912;start=msg92729#msg92729 date=1081242925
However, the first one, I have used and it does work. I also do not think that attire matters. I had a very well to do gent in our club, dressed in flip flops and a t shirt and a pair of shorts and he was wearing a visor. All the girls ignored him because he didn't look like he'd be the type to have any money for dances, plus, he was drinking water.
Gynger, that comment deserves a toast. Thank you. :beer:
I'm certain there are dancers losing thousands of dollars in potential sales due to following a "judge by appearance" sales strategy. Perhaps another indicator of a good customer is to watch your co-workers, then look for the guy who's being ignored. What better way to win a guy's loyalty than to bring him out of a sour mood.
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Some people won't dress nice on purpose.
And there are good reasons for this:
1. Those of us who work in offices have been in those stuffy suits all day. We are there to relax and want to get out of them.
2. We don't want our expensive clothes to be reaking of cigarette smoke and dancer perfume by the time we leave.
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I have found out that most really well off gentleman will down play. I like to target guys who are alone. I once had a contruction workere give me a 100$ tip on stage. Then I went to talk to him and he gave me 200 more. He said that every girl was just walking by. I don't care if a guy looks like he rolled out of a trash truck. I talk to everyone. Just simple hi, and glances, letting my hand run across his back as I walk by. These are small and simple ways to get noticed. Most will make you stop. Chit chat. And move in for the kill. =) The men I usually avoid are the younger ones. They just want to make money buy selling girls drugs. If not that they just want to date or have drinks. But, I have made money off of younger men occasionally.
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drinking water is a sign of money!
anyone that would pay $5 for a bottle of water is there for the right reason
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I will admit there are certain guys I do judge based on the way they look....
these are:
young guys
"gangsta" guys
men with women
good-looking guys
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I'd also like to say, that Darkness' first statement about "giving a better dance" is not what I say.. I never say that I am better than another dancer. I usually compliment the dancer he got dances from and then say something like, "Well, we all give good ones here, we're the best in town." Or, I'll say, (and only after we've been talking for awhile) So, when is it my turn to treat you to a nice dance? If I am asked if I am better, I always reply with : "well, maybe you'll have to take a chance and find out, that is.. if you aren't scared". That one usually gets them to laugh. And, I find that if I can get a guy to laugh, he's going to buy a dance.
I usually have no problems getting a guy to spring for "one more dance" I use the "well, for the price of a couple of drinks, you could have one dance with me". It usually works, then when he's spent more than just one dance with me, and its time to appear on the floor again, I retreat to my dressing room table, pull out some free drink cards and give a few to him. If I have a really nice customer who ends up getting a dance from me after he's spent some money (cause he ends up getting more than just one), I have no issues with giving him a free admission pass for next time or a couple free drink cards. Afterall, I want him to come back again.
The attire thing is very true though. Never judge a book by its cover, and someone mentioned guys who dress to impress. They are usually posers who like to act like that they have money (but this is not the case for all)- the guys who look like they have been lounging all day long are always the first ones I speak to. I don't care what a guy wears or looks like, I will talk to him.
Oh and Emily, yeah, you are very right in your statement about water. Its nice to see that I'm not the only one who notices that when someone spends money on water that its an indicator.
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I agree with you Emily. I recently left a club that was getting a little ghetto. Not enforcing dress code and new dj that liked to play a lot of rap and r&b. That made the guys with cash leave. They don't like that enviroment at all. Most good looking guys are there to flaunt money and not spend it. Men with women I avoid unless they have money in hand to give to me. So I guess I do avoid some types also.
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Darkness,that approach is DEFINATELY needed to work in Las Vegas. Guys don't want much conversation, just want to know how good of dances they will get for their money. WITHOUT that type of hustle in Vegas most dancers won't last, in an environment where many nights dancers outnumber customers 2-3 to 1. Plus you are working with girls tonight who may be headed home tomorrow so the chance of conflict is minimal.
BUT, in a smaller club with all house dancers whom you will regularly work with, that could cause commotion. And in a club where you have time to sit and chat with the guys it could make you look cheap and sleazy.
IF one is selective in the type of club to use this in , it could make the difference in not making money and survival or good money. (If one is dancing in Houston they should NOT use this approach as it will lead the guys to thinking they will get full service and a blow job.) :)
For a HEAVY hustle club with LOTS of dancers that was VERY good advice!!!
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Originally Posted by darkness link=board=9;threadid=7912;start=msg91299#msg91299 date=1080948913
they finish go up to that guy and say "l saw who you got a dance from, l bet you l can top it"
This only works if the dancer prior really sucked or gave a substandard or poor dance, so it's going to be 50/50; half the time being a really awesome angle VERY likely to seal the sale, the other half the time leaving the customer feeling you are insulting the dancer he just thoroughly enjoyed, or insulting his taste/prior choice.
If you use this angle only when spying a customer that just completed with the lazy, low quality, unenthusiastic dancers, sounds like a winner. I'd say adapt your angle to instead offer praise and commentary of how "hot" the last dancer was if the customer just completed with one of the bigger earners in the club that has a decent following. You become "good" also by association, and you're confirming the customer's tastes with the lady he just finished with if she was really something stellar.
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Originally Posted by darkness link=board=9;threadid=7912;start=msg91299#msg91299 date=1080948913
you can use this for sure line.you:"hi l'm so and so would you like to come for a dance with me?garunteed to get your cock hard" what guy in there right mind would say no to that?
This is REALLY club, dancer and customer specific.
I refuse to buy dances from a dancer that has used the "cock" word anywhere in their initial hustle... just a matter of principle since I find it insulting and classless. It does preclude an assumption that every guy walks through the front doors to "get their dick hard", when this isn't always the case. Stripclubs are also a comfortable place to have a few drinks, kill some time, get some food, hang with some beautiful, personable women and buy a dance or two. Someone that instantly casts me in the former mold without querying to see what kind of customer I am doesn't get my business or tips, so some amount of customer exploration should accompany such a sales pitch.
Also, I know a LOT of dancers (I'm betting Gynger is one of them), where if they boldly used that line.. the customer would probably just bust out laughing for how unnatural something like that would be coming out of her mouth. Not everyone plays the "slut" card for their look or demeanor. It sounds like good advice if everything else matches (club, your look/demeanor, customer type, etc.etc.) but obviously not wide reaching for everyone. It's definately a good angle in the sleazier clubs, and with the more slutty dressed dancers, I'm sure... but the taller, super-modelesque dancers I know and some of the more upper scale clubs, it would be almost comically unusual.
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Honestly if im going to approach a customer im going to act asif I have ATLEAST a little Class.. Not strait off the street corner.
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I feel so cheesy using stupid come on lines like "I'll get your cock hard" I prefer to wisper things like that in their ear later on. After a few dances I love to ask in a shy little wisper, "are you hard?" Like it actually excites me when he says yes.
I figured out the clothes thing early on, but the more experienced girls in my club just laughed at me. I don't tell them how much I earn, but they aren't laughing any more. I am nice to everyone and know everyone has something to spend. Guys who come to clubs know they are going to get attention, they don't need to dress to impress per say.
Doc was totally right about not wanting to mess up nicer clothes. When I go out I wear simple and comfortable clothes and I get hit on WAY more than the girls who spend tons of money and time on their skanky outfits.
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I worked with a girl who used the "I'll get you hard" approach...and then she wondered why guys tried to finger her during dances or kept propositioning her.
I'm a little aloof at work, I rarely sit on guys laps, and if a guy isn't spending within 2 songs I'm out; I just use my radar (which I consider quite good). I tend to scan the room and hit up the guy checking me out. It worked well for me last night. The champagne host led me to 4 cigar-chomping suits and all they wanted was a "happy ending". Then I chatted up this guy in his late 20's that kept checking me out, dressed very casually and within 10 minutes we were doing 2 hours in VIP plus a $100 tip. He asked me before hand what the rules were and we did a comfortable combination of LD's and chitchat.
I like to have fun at work and use my charm and sexiness to make money, but I still try act in a way I find appropriate for myself.
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keep it classy.......customers come back to see class not trash.
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I've found out something along those lines; the door girls always used to tell us when BMWs, or Caddies, or Lexus's would come in, as if those guys would automatically spend money. Nine times out of ten, tho, they wouldn't. And, to top all that, I knew this one guy who used to come in, driving a BMW, who would be willing to pay....in coke! Generally speaking, I have found that the guys who really want to spend money, like blondehottie said, won't advertise it; they'll use it as a cover to find the girls who want them, not their money.
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rember the person drivingh the lexus has to make the payment on it so probley can't spend money on dances lol lol just kidding :) i just live somewhere whre its common to drive a car everybody knows you can't afford :)
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Ive told customers in the past that if they dont like my dance its free... no free dances to date :)
Depending on the guy after a few dances I'll joke... if you cum its extra,... i really dont grind enough to actually make that happen, no extras in my club but it perks them up.. had a guy get 14 dances in a row tonight after saying that line... cleaned his wallet... i was nice too... at the end he was $6 short and I told him not to worry.. see, its not ALL about money.. LOL
But guy above was NOT into getting dances.. when i first sat down to chat he kinda blew me off saying he already got dances and isnt getting any others... so i chatted for a few mins, told him the above about free dances and cleaned him out...
SUCKER!
Audrey
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My List
1. Young attractive men are the easiest for me because thats when I am a master sales woman, dangerously flirtatious and I get most of Money from them
2. Old men I rarely approach because they can be a problem for me, I think they can sense that I am not enjoying
3. Turkish/Chinese/Indian people I will never approach unless they are in VIP because that group of people are stingy, wanna negotiate down, unwilling to spend at all.
4.Americans are my favorite, they tip good and often for reason and they love me too
5. Black guys I only approach when there is none one else free, all they want is to fuck and were I work they rarely have money
6. Couples I approach after I confirm or see them having a dance cause they can be a waste of time