-
OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
you'll have to copy and past the link into a new window, because the commas screw up the BBS link parser.
In a nutshell, Osama has two main points. The first is that The USA and UK supported the creation of Israel, continue to support its policies, and will therefore forever remain the target of muslim revenge.
The second main point is that the USA and UK exercise influence over the governments of most middle eastern countries to #1- continue to sell mideast oil at prices much lower than they should be, and #2 - continue to prevent islamic extremists from re-establishing Shariah i.e. muslim religious law in favor of government law.
This is an extremely telling document in regard to the motivations of the islamic extremists, and a very clear example why attempts to arrive at some accomodation with islamic extremists will be fruitless.
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
My reply to him is F - YOU!
He is right about the jews controlling our economy and media.
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
(1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.
Yeah, right. There is no way. Not in a million years. The Quran is about as interesting to me as reading a high school math book.
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Wow.. Very interesting stuff, Melonie. Thanks for sharing it! I kind of had to chuckle at this though:
(vi) You are a nation that exploits women like consumer products or advertising tools calling upon customers to purchase them. You use women to serve passengers, visitors, and strangers to increase your profit margins. You then rant that you support the liberation of women.
This is downright chilling:
(6) Sixthly, we call upon you to end your support of the corrupt leaders in our countries. Do not interfere in our politics and method of education. Leave us alone, or else expect us in New York and Washington.
Does he actually think that the US will bend to his demands? I don't know what to make of this. Ugh.
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Bin Ladin has been hitting the crack pipe if he thinks this will make the US just pull out of the mid east. The guy's crazy.
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Bomb em all. Nothing else is gonna work.
WTF happened to the Hunt for Osama anyway? They just abandoned that like yesterday's stinky socks when they rolled into Iraq. I'm thinking that hunt needs to get rebooted!
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
My main thought when posting the link to OSAMA's letter was directed to those "misguided" individuals who seem to think that if we were to withdraw troops from the middle east that somehow the entire islamic extremist movement will no longer have a reason to keep attacking the US/UK and their interests.
I'm absolutely certain that the black helicopters are still on OSAMA's ass. However, it would be logical to assume that OSAMA is now hiding in an area where he is "protected" by a co-operative middle east government i.e. Iran or Syria. Therefore going in to nab OSAMA would risk Bush taking tremendous amounts of heat from the same "misguided" individuals for expanding the mideast war, initiating an "unprovoked" attack on a foreign country, etc.
I'll make a little prediction ... OSAMA's capture will be plastered all over the US news media somewhere around this coming October 29th, just in time for election day !
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melonie link=board=1;threadid=9344;start=msg111589#msg1115 89 date=1084996528
I'll make a little prediction ... OSAMA's capture will be plastered all over the US news media somewhere around this coming October 29th, just in time for election day !
LMFAO Melonie. You know, I think that prediction will come true. Hell, GW probably knows Osama's location as we type, and is most likely just saving it up until just before election day.
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
I want to address this part:
It is to this religion that we call you; the seal of all the previous religions. It is the religion of Unification of God, sincerity, the best of manners, righteousness, mercy, honour, purity, and piety. It is the religion of showing kindness to others, establishing justice between them, granting them their rights, and defending the oppressed and the persecuted. It is the religion of enjoining the good and forbidding the evil with the hand, tongue and heart. It is the religion of Jihad in the way of Allah so that Allah's Word and religion reign Supreme. And it is the religion of unity and agreement on the obedience to Allah, and total equality between all people, without regarding their colour, sex, or language.
That is just so ABSURD :o
mercy, kindness ??? How is stoning to death a woman who was raped in order to return honor to the family showing mercy or kindness.
equality between all people ??? how is forcing women ( but not men) to be covered from head to toe or refusing to let them leave the house without a man or only allowing males formal education- how the hell is that equality !!!!
And then there's this: And because of all this, you have been described in history as a nation that spreads diseases that were unknown to man in the past. Go ahead and boast to the nations of man, that you brought them AIDS as a Satanic American Invention.
The US invented AIDS huh? Oh really - I'd like to see his proof on that ::)
Bloody insanity - literally :'(
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhiannon link=board=1;threadid=9344;start=msg111597#msg1115 97 date=1084996898
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melonie link=board=1;threadid=9344;start=msg111589#msg1115 89 date=1084996528
I'll make a little prediction ... OSAMA's capture will be plastered all over the US news media somewhere around this coming October 29th, just in time for election day !
LMFAO Melonie. You know, I think that prediction will come true. Hell, GW probably knows Osama's location as we type, and is most likely just saving it up until just before election day.
I have suspected the same thing for a long, long time.
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Didn't AIDS originate in AFRICA? Please. What kind of ass is he?
And then there's this crap:
Quote:
It is the religion of showing kindness to others, establishing justice between them, granting them their rights, and defending the oppressed and the persecuted.
Where was the kindness in the WTC crashing? Where is the kindness in killing someone who simply does not follow your so-called religion? Where is the granting of rights - by killing people who disagree? And where is the defending of the oppressed and persecuted? If anything, it's the MUSLIM extremists who attempt to oppress and persecute everyone else!
:beat:
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Am I understanding this correct ? It seems that he is saying that if everyone in the US doesn't become Muslim and follow Islamic law he will continue to try to destroy and kill us.
Did anyone else get that or am I mis reading it ?
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
But we must remember people who think like that are usually so blinded by their own religion are BRAINWASHED into thinking what they do is right. Gimme a break. Equality? KINDNESS? Fuck you!
Maybe "Allah" intended it that way, but these fuckers took it way out of context. He probably said, "Spread the word and get others into this way of life" but I doubt he wanted to FORCE people, or kill them if they disagreed. If so, then he is another ass who shouldnt be followed.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Quote:
Am I understanding this correct ? It seems that he is saying that if everyone in the US doesn't become Muslim and follow Islamic law he will continue to try to destroy and kill us.
In theory, yes! But in practice, it would appear that America's continued support for their arch-enemy Israel which is the major motivating force for islamic extremists to keep trying to kill us and destroy our society. Slightly behind this appears to be America's support for non-islamic fundamentalist middle eastern governments, like Jordan or Saudi Arabia or Egypt, which are ruled by monarchies/elected officials and government assemblies and legal systems, rather than being ruled by Ayatollahs and Shariah religious laws like Iran.
Quote:
But we must remember people who think like that are usually so blinded by their own religion are BRAINWASHED into thinking what they do is right
This is exactly the reason that the islamic fundamentalists hate any non-religiously controlled educational institutions - and in particular hate "western" universities located in the middle east ! This is also the reason that Shariah law excludes females from the religiously run educational process, and excludes females from fighting alongside men.
Quote:
He is right about the jews controlling our economy and media
I would agree that jews certainly have a degree of impact and leverage in the US economy and on US news media which goes WAY beyond their percentage of the US population !
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melonie link=board=1;threadid=9344;start=msg111632#msg1116 32 date=1085000388
Quote:
Am I understanding this correct ? It seems that he is saying that if everyone in the US doesn't become Muslim and follow Islamic law he will continue to try to destroy and kill us.
In theory, yes! But in practice, it would appear that America's continued support for their arch-enemy Israel which is the major motivating force for islamic extremists
I thought so about religous converstion ::)
I am wondering if removing our support of Israel would be enough, I doubt it though. I get the feeling that the extremist view of our past support makes them feel they can cont with terror attacks forever no matter what we do or don't do :-\
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Quote:
I thought so about religous conversion
Again, just my own opinion, but the religious angle has already been used in Europe and Indonesia as a subterfuge for establishing "education centers" for future Al Queda affiliated extremist groups.
Just another opinion, but keep your eye on Louis Farrakhan - I'm sure that the FBI is !
Quote:
am wondering if removing our support of Israel would be enough, I doubt it though
Realistically speaking, actually removing our support for Israel would bring down such a ration of negative shit on the US economy in response that a 6% unemployment rate and $2.31/gal gasoline would seem like rose colored memories !
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
I don't believe that anything that we may do would be enough to satisfy him or his people. His message (as messed up as it is), is pretty clear. He wants a world of Islam. He wants Jews to have no power whatsoever. He wants the US to convert to the beliefs of his "Allah".
I just don't really understand how his warped mind works. He can't seriously believe that we'll agree to any of his ridiculous commands.
He's a F'in fruitloop. I'm surprised he has any marbles left to even function.
What worries me also is, doesn't he have 40+ children? Sure, some are females who are against him, and we killed Uday and Qusai (sp). But, couldn't he be prepping more of them to take over in case he is killed? Very scary thought.
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Quote:
He's a F'in fruitloop. I'm surprised he has any marbles left to even function
Well, Adolf Hitler was a major frootloop as well. However that didn't stop him from attacking all of his neighboring countries, trying to establish his own Aryan supremacist society over them, and ultimately causing something like 40 million deaths !
Being a fanatical frootloop is actually a very good credential for a successful despotic leader !
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melonie link=board=1;threadid=9344;start=msg111657#msg1116 57 date=1085002365
Quote:
He's a F'in fruitloop. I'm surprised he has any marbles left to even function
Well, Adolf Hitler was a major frootloop as well. However that didn't stop him from attacking all of his neighboring countries, trying to establish his own Aryan supremacist society over them, and ultimately causing something like 40 million deaths !
Being a fanatical frootloop is actually a very good credential for a successful despotic leader !
Ooh, I know Melonie.. Hitler alone was just as crazy. But in some eyes, he was a genius. What's amazing to me is that Ford had a framed picture of Hitler on his desk, and Hitler had picture of Ford as well. I never understood that.
I guess I just don't get it. Osama has remained consistent in his encouragement of attacks against the US, yet, we went after Saddam. True, he needed to be removed from power, but Osama is gaining more support every day.
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Shortly after 9/11 I read a very good article by some American who had spent much of his adult life working in various countries in the Arab world. It was in some semi-intellectual magazine, but I don't quite recall where. Anyway, one of his basic points was that Americans will have a hard time really understanding radical Islamic enemies because we try to see their perspective in our own terms. Things like politics, economics, human rights, the good of the individual and so forth, but (in this guy's analysis) that dooms us to confusion because it misses what they really care about: religion. He felt that the nearest analogy in our own "world" is the far Christian right. So, for example, they may well be involved in politics, but it is not due to any real interest in governing; it is simply one possible means to their end, namely getting everyone to live according to their religious code/beliefs. Radical Islamic movements are sort of like that, except even more obssessed and extreme. I have often recalled that article since I read it. It seems to me ever more on target.
-Ww
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=9344;start=msg111576#msg1115 76 date=1084995580
Bomb em all. Nothing else is gonna work.
WTF happened to the Hunt for Osama anyway? They just abandoned that like yesterday's stinky socks when they rolled into Iraq. I'm thinking that hunt needs to get rebooted!
I am not sure about that, Pat Tillman (sp?) died hunting Osama. I think the heat is on.
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Indirectly, yes. He died hunting for Osama. He died in battle with Al Qaeda fighters.
"Serving with the 75th Ranger Regiment (search), Tillman was killed during a search and destroy mission where intelligence indicated a large presence of Al Qaeda fighters. Two other soldiers were wounded when in an exchange of small-arms fire."
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=9344;start=msg111576#msg1115 76 date=1084995580
WTF happened to the Hunt for Osama anyway? They just abandoned that like yesterday's stinky socks when they rolled into Iraq. I'm thinking that hunt needs to get rebooted!
YES! This is one thing that pisses me off more than anything...
Lest you think I am some sort of spineless f**k who thinks we should just let people blow up our buildings and slaughter our citizens, allow me to set the record straight. I agree wholeheartedly with Bridgette, Melonie, Lestat, and whoever else advocates hunting down and eradiicating bin Laden and al Queda.
I just think it's being handled very poorly by the current administration, which has diverted attention from the real problem and made things way worse than they were by embroiling us in Iraq instead of concentrating on getting those responsible for 9/11.
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Oh definitely count me in on that, Dj. I've been saying this all along. They need to disappear. It's basically come down to us or them. I pick US.
-
Re:OSAMA writes a telling letter to Americans and Brits ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melonie link=board=1;threadid=9344;start=msg111589#msg1115 89 date=1084996528
I'll make a little prediction ... OSAMA's capture will be plastered all over the US news media somewhere around this coming October 29th, just in time for election day !
Hell yes, Melonie, I think you are right about that!