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Originally Posted by audioslave2 link=board=1;threadid=9400;start=msg114580#msg1145 80 date=1085681244
1. The US alone is reponsible for 40% of the Earth's CO2 last time I heard. Name the un-industrialized country which is a bigger polluter than the US. There is none.
As Melonie already pointed out, it comes down to per-capita pollutants. Yes, it is obvious that the United States produces more pollution in volume than anyone else. We also happen to be far and away the largest ecconomic global mechanism. To operate that economy, we have to use fossil fuels. It is due to the prosperity of the U.S. that the rest of the world prospers and to screw with that system makes everyone feel good, and yet it is also quite stupid.
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2. Your response to my point about Bush installing cabinet appointees is like appointing foxes to guard the henhouse with "Yada, yada, yada," shows you know little and care little about what is going on with Bush and his business cronies.
You're right, I don't care. Not one iota. Zip, zero, nadda.
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Here's a hint. Look into the so called "Energy Task Force" which met during the opening weeks of the Bush Administration behind closed doors and which did not listen to environmentalist groups.
I know. They deserve much praise for that.
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5. You're way out of line in the pay of Cruise Ship empolyees, I mean so far out of line its laughable.
Yeah, because they have such a motive to lie to me.
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Many of the Filipinos, Chinese, Bahamians, and other crew members of color stop by my bar when their boats are in town. I know how little they make . . . many only $175 -$250 per week . . . while getting "free room and board" and working their asses off 12 to 20 hours daily, every day...
So fine. Let's assume this is what they make just to make you happy. I wasn't aware that the cruise ships used slavory to get their employees. I guess these people were taken onto these ships at gun-point and forced to work on them. What you see as bad treatment, I see as oportunity. Explain to me what these same people made in the Phillipines, or Bahamas, or eastern Europe? What, $175-$250 a year?
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If you could have gone below decks you would have been startled at how many of them live per one tiny cabin and how tired they all look.
You should see how tired I look. Hard work does that to you.
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and when that boat is on the open water, you pull monstrous days laboring to keep the Americans fed, their cabins cleaned, their drinks served, etc., etc.
I know...us horrible terrible Americans. So where do you think these people would be if it weren't for us Americans working hard and then paying people to feed us, clean our cabins, and serve us drinks?