snatching Defeat from the jaws of victory ...
Several news stories are reporting that, like earlier this month in Fallujah, US/Iraqi politicians appear to have cut another cease-fire deal - this time with the Al Sadr forces in Najaf. IMHO this is the start of a dangerous trend agreeing to leave these terrorist factional leaders and their fanatical troops in place, and is only going to result in bigger future problems when these fanatics start causing problems in other parts of Iraq and the middle east. In my book this also constitutes negotiating with terrorists, which is supposedly a huge taboo in US policy. Also, this would appear to be a basis for creating a number of "safe havens" from which islamic fanatics can pop out, attack US troops, and then pop right back in again with reasonable safety to hide, re-arm themselves, and prepare for the next attack.
Why are US military forces being pressured by politicians to make these sort of deals ? IMHO this stems directly from the majority of US news media harping about Iraq war casualties and many liberal US and world politicians promoting appeasement. Probably most of all this is happening because most US citizens have forgotten what real war is like, and have also forgotten that there are times when real war is the "right" thing to do.
I ran across this news story which sort of puts the Iraq war in perspective, both in terms of casualties, in terms of the news media, and in terms of political unity. It turns out that several weeks prior to D-Day in 1944, a training exercise was held which resulted in 749 US casualties. Not only were more US soldiers lives lost in a single night during this training exercise than in an entire year of war in Iraq, but the news media did not report it and US politicians said absolutely nothing about it. How times have changed !
Re:snatching Defeat from the jaws of victory ...
I say again. Carpet bomb the whole damn place and be done with it. Faster, cheaper, results in fewer American casualties and leaves no room for future terrorist bullshit.
Then build our own oil wells to use as we need and sell to the rest of the world! Mwuhahahahahaha!
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IMHO this is the start of a dangerous trend agreeing to leave these terrorist factional leaders and their fanatical troops in place
Are they really terrorists? Perhaps they are just fighting the U.S. occupation. That's what I see. If that is the case, they are resistance fighters, not terrorists. There is a big difference.
Would you fight an invader and occupier of the United States? I would. Would that make us terrorists? I don’t think so.
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Originally Posted by Santos link=board=1;threadid=9648;start=msg115553#msg1155 53 date=1085887855
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IMHO this is the start of a dangerous trend agreeing to leave these terrorist factional leaders and their fanatical troops in place
Are they really terrorists? Perhaps they are just fighting the U.S. occupation. That's what I see. If that is the case, they are resistance fighters, not terrorists. There is a big difference.
Would you fight an invader and occupier of the United States? I would. Would that make us terrorists? I don’t think so.
If it's not the U.S., it would be someone else. These people, by their own admission, just want to see the "zionist" world dead. These aren't freedom fighters, they are fanatics no different than the S.S. were some 60 years ago. If it wasn't American "occupation" of their land, they would be fighting among themselves, which has also been quite historically common.
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Are they really terrorists? Perhaps they are just fighting the U.S. occupation. That's what I see. If that is the case, they are resistance fighters, not terrorists. There is a big difference.
Yes there is - however, the fact that the majority of these fanatics are actually from Saudi, Chechnya, Syria, Iran and not from Iraq sort of provides a clue ! The fact that most of the actual Iraqi's in this group of fanatics are Baathists and former members of Saddam's ruling elite sort of completes the picture !
Here's another one of those "inconvenient" news stories that the mainstream US media chooses not to report, which positively shows that the motivation of these fanatics goes far beyond being "freedom fighters" to liberate the country of Iraq. These people may be "freedom fighters" to some I grant you, fighting to make the world "free" of Israelis, of Americans, of Brits, of moderate Arab leaders, and of anybody else who stands in the way of their plans to establish Islamic fundamentalism as the one and only ruling force in their part of the world.