???
Printable View
???
ask them?
I can smell it !
Melonie can smell it. I can see it. There are lots of signs!
Pamela
Especially the money sign, right Pam? lol
when I danced I always looked at their shoes nad jewlery. Even men pretending they don't have money forget to change the shoes and jewlery. I also looked at the haircuts. A man with a newly done haircut usually cares about their apperance hince they have money.
These always worked for me.
finding someone with money is only half the battle. Getting them to spend it...well, that's another thread in itself.
kryssy hit on some key points. think tasteful not tacky blingbling. nice watch. no t-shirts. groomed hair and nails.
How much money are we talking about here? Do you mean, can we tell if they have enough $$ to spend on getting dances or are they Donald Trump???? Also, "old" money versus "new" money have different indicators......
I've found that the guys that brag about having money either don't or don't want to part with it. Most guys with money are subtle about it.
I always target the customers who have the cash on the bartop for drinks.... although im thinking maybe real spenders may be less obvious and keep it in their pocket.. to see if a dancer will approach anyway?? haha im a newbie and still getting used to the hustle
There are many obvious tell-tale signs. Two of the better ones are manicured fingernails and shirt fabric. Many guys wear button-down shirts, but if you can recognize really good fabric from something that was bought at Target, that's a good and subtle indicator.
I think finding someone who will SPEND their money on you is more important than someone who as A LOT of money. I have had customers give me large amounts of money before who didnt really have it to spend...they just did it because they liked me....
I dont think it matters if they are loaded or not you can get the same amount from either.
hmm, point made by Tori, I've had college students randomly drop in and spend $200 on me, and doctors who brag about having a nice car very grudging buy a dance.
Of course, my club is so small we're lucky if the customer to dance ratio is 1:1, so you take what you can get - I doubt the guy in a nice suit really wants to be mauled.
I agree with Susan Va and Luna Maiden. There are a lot of silver spoon, stingy, rich b*st*rds who won't part with their money because they don't comprehend what it is to have to hustle and fight the hard fight to make a decent living. Then there are the guys who are lucky enough to have a special talent, who also don't understand that not everyone has been as fortunate as they have been.
Some guys with lots of money are very creative and choose to spend their money on things other than flashy blingbling and expensive clothing. I look for a guy with a pleasant and kind disposition. Those are the guys who spend the money. The guys with the cocky attitudes either don't have it or won't spend it.
Yep, shoe spotter here. Hint: doesnt always indicate money, sometimes scrubby tennis shoe guys have lots of money too. So your better off asking them all.
:) :) :) :) :)there are no signs until you see the wallet. sometimes men with money are very greedy and will try to get away without tipping you. you don't know all you can do is assume and go with you gut instinct!!!
In the small towns that I work bookings in, in the Dakotas and Montana, guys are not into fashion.
Clothing and jewelry mean nothing. They wear wrangler jeans, boots or on the better dressed days a Penney's polo shirt a pair of Levis or dockers and some $50 Nunn Bush loafers with the gold plated chain on top.
But if these guys come in alone, and are older, and give good eye contact when i'm on stage or tip me better than the other guys, usually they will spend above average money on me.
I don't see too many guys in the clubs even in Vegas or Houston who are impeccably dressed or who are like the guys I see buying shoes and clothes when I go in Nordstrom. Those guys don't seem to come to the clubs anymore.
I pick up on wealth/ profitability by their body language and the level of education they seem to have by the choice of conversation topics. The best advice I've heard from a dancer is that the lynchpin is finding the man's weakness and hitting that button (example: likes....Lolita type, Asian, Latina, dirty talker, role-player....) I mean, come on, they come to the club for that kind of stimulation. (It's like going to an Italian resturant when you want Italian food.)
Dead give-away to a cheapo? Excessive interest too fast, and grabbiness. Cut bait on those ones, girls!
Business casual dress (minimum), nice welcoming smile. Jeans and a backwards ball cap means he looking for a date.
FBR
I had a customer come in with shorts and a t-shirt...I started to walk right past him, but then at the last minute stopped to talk with him. Turned out that he had a TON of money...and spent most of it on me. :) Said that since I was the ONLY dancer who approached him in the whole hour he was there, that he would only spend his money on me. So, sometimes, appearances can be deceiving. He owned a few car dealerships in the city/suburbs.
The reason he was dressed down so? He was boating all day and didn't feel like driving the hour home, showering, changing and driving the hour back to the club. So, he "came as he was".
I agree, appearances can be very deceiving. Demeanor seems to be the best guage in my opinion. But, then again, I am a believer in the myth that shoes make the man.
I know Jack B. from Richmond and he's the same when he's up here. Saw him a couple of weeks ago, don't know if he's headed south yet or not. He's an awesome guy, not one you'd think would have money but he is generous with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by audioslave2 link=board=1;threadid=9733;start=msg116730#msg1167 30 date=1086168950
audioslave2, are you at Teasers? Jack said that's where he hangs out alot and I had a great time there last Sept. When i go this year Jack said to look for hime there and I'm sure to find him.
Lol Lexi! The money sign. Actually there are many money signs to look at when i see a guy! Car, clothing, jewlery, and manners speak alot to me. If he has all that going for him i can squeeze it out!!!
Pamela
Two examples, that are counter to what I am reading here on guy judgement.
Bill Gates is now about 48 years old. Fifteen years ago. (say about
1989) he was quite wealthy but this is how he dressed, and to some extent still dresses today. Jeans, button down sport shirt, nerdy sweater, and silly penny loafers. Personally I have no problem with the jeans, spfrot shirt and even sweater, but the penny loafers are a bit much. I heard he tended to drive Microsoft issue Ford/chevy's from the motor pool. In the 1980's tended to wear Timex watches.
Sam Walton. (Now deceased). Always wore jeans and drove
a battered old Ford or Chevy pickup truck. He wore Walmart issue watches.
Would you have missed both of these guys by your judgement rules?
Both of these guys had (and have) so much money that they don't have to prove anything to anybody on how they dress or look.
I can just sense it. Although I typically stay away from cigar-chomping suits that other girls swarm all over.
Most of the big spenders that I've dealt with are casually dressed but still fairly neat, and I agree that demeanor has a lot to do with it. I noticed from very early on that guys that insist that you sit on their lap right away and paw away will not spend.
Sometimes you just never know. There's a lot of blue collar millionaires out there, guys with construction businesses and whatnot who have money they want to spend on dancers, but Ferragamo wingtips and manicures just aren't their thing.