How do you turn a customer around??? I don't want to sound like some desparate dancer, so what is a good way of doing this?
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How do you turn a customer around??? I don't want to sound like some desparate dancer, so what is a good way of doing this?
Sometimes it's better to take no for an answer if the customer is not interested in a dance. IMHO it's great to improve sales techniques, but also respect the customer's wishes. I suppose it depends on why he said no. If he's waiting for another dancer or you're not his type, too much persuasion won't work in your favor. Let the guy be. If he's not ready for a dance yet, ask again later after going on stage. He might not have the time or money for a dance. Decode what the "no" means for each guy and go from there.
Disclaimer: This advice may differ from that of someone who has hustle experience.
On another note, if you ask for a dance and he says "no," you could reply with, "darn it, I know it would be fun." There are lots of thread on things to say to increase your chance of getting a dance. Especially in the Hustle Hut section. However, there are no sure fire ways to "turn a customer around" all the time.
Why waste time on someone who has made it clear he doesn't want to buy dances off you? Work on someone else. I would leave him with a, "I will check on you later in case you change your mind" if you really want to be persistant without being pushy.
Don't hound the customers or you will turn them off.
Do you think you should say "Darn it?" I think a "Golly Gee" would work much better then a "Darn it" ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by bloodydewdrop link=board=9;threadid=10215;start=msg123732#msg123 732 date=1087490027
I definatly know what you guys are saying. Pestering a customer will get you nothing but wasted time. But there have been so many times that I got dances from guys when they said no very heisitantly but I just kept purseuding them. The trick is to detirmine if he is sure he means no. Some say no very firmly. Leave these guys alone they don't want a dance. But the guys who elaborate and hesitate and who are friendly about it don't let them go. I say "Oh come on I know you want one" wink, wink. and laugh and smile. " Oh you aren't going to dissapoint me are you. I just wanted to dance for you so bad!" Smile make him laugh. On many occasioons they have given in. ;)
Bless you, Emily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emily link=board=9;threadid=10215;start=msg123750#msg123 750 date=1087493025
I know certain people espouse a "Tom Hopkins"-esque approach to asking for laps (ask three times), but speaking as a real live paying customer (average spent per visit this year: $700), if I actually tell you "no, thank you" I really do mean it.
Most men have a certain body type they are looking for if they go to a club looking for laps. If you aren't that type, you're not going to get a lap from them, period.
It's better to examine your entire initial approach technique, then compare it to the girls who are making bank at the club. Are you hitting up guys the moment they come into a club (99% turndown ratio)? Are you approaching from behind (we're shallow, we want to see the whole package before we go ahead with the lap)? Do you actually make eye contact and say thanks to the guys who tipped you onstage? Then ask them once you come off? When you come out of the dressing room, do you automatically go into "Wanna dance" mode in a monotone voice with no spirit in it?
Try this: next time you come out of the dressing room, pause before entering the main floor. LOOK for the guy(s) who are staring a hole through you, as opposed to the ones who look away when you make eye contact. The ones who keep looking at you are the ones you approach first. Be friendly, say hi, chat for a moment and THEN ask for a lap. My guess is your closing ratio will skyrocket.
CP
Chilli Palmer that is excellent advice. Sometimes though there are guys that stare at me intensly. I make eye contact, smile, start approching them ( yes from the front) and they look away and wtf do I do then? Do i plop down on their lap and start chating them up or do I not even say anything and make a detour?
the problem arises when nobody is staring at you....not that they are looking away at you either, just not aware of you.
But yeah, if a guy looks at me and looks away, I don't anticipate much from him!
Really!? Shoot that's my move...seriously!Quote:
Originally Posted by Emily link=board=9;threadid=10215;start=msg123925#msg123 925 date=1087510970
Lestat1's approach when in the club (doesn't work well at all):
(1) Stare at dancer I like when she's not looking
(2) Dancer catches me looking
(3) Mutter to self: "oh shit, she caught me!"
(4) Look away quickly
:-[ :D
I have done that before... its kinda like your embarassed to be staring.Quote:
Originally Posted by lestat1 link=board=9;threadid=10215;start=msg124016#msg124 016 date=1087517220
The only time I have ever gotten a dance right after I got in a club was when the dancer approached me and placed my face in her clevage... what else could I say but yes please.
Whenever I say "No Thank You" I don't want a dance from you, but if I say "maybe later" or "not right now" it means I need to see your stage show first. This is a big selling point for me.
I will rarely ever get a dance when asked from behind... got to see what I am gettng into.
I have never pressed it any further because i do understand that I might not be his type, but maybe because i'm up against girls doing extras on the floor as well as in the champagne room. You know grabbing parts and flashing parts. Wasn't like this before, and I like this club, its so frustrating. I'll keep all the advice offered in my head when i go back to work.
It depends on the no. If he gives a reason, like he feels like dances are a rip-off or whatever, I'll let him know that I understand how he feels and I don't think it's unreasonable AND I know he'll have a great time if he does a dance with me. :-)
The best way to handle this situation is to setup the conversation so you don't get "no's" so often. There are many different ways of turning customers around, but the key is to set up the scenario to where they don't need turning around in the first place. Once you learn how to sell more effectively, you won't have so many oportunities to have to turn the sale around and you'll also be able to deal with what resistence emerges more effectively. If you want to learn the right way to do it, check out our class.
Some guys are just too quick to say no. It has nothing to do with you personally most of the time, they are just barraged and over stimulated by girls vying for their attention.
If a guy tells me no, I just walk away and don't say anything.
The deal is, he can't figure out why I didn't start whining or give him some sob story, and make it apparent that he is the one who lost out on the opportunity, which is the truth. When he sees what just walked away, he knows he's going to have a long time to wait, and wait is what they usually do.
I go about my merry way get a ton of dances from others, and walk back over and give him a second chance whille stuffing money in my bag, I have no problem saying "your turn" or "ready?", because I know they have been watching me.
They usually just smile and get up and go to the dance area with me, then comment on how busy I am.
This is not surfire. I've dancing for awhile and this is just inegrated in my money making behavior, but this tactic is automatic and happens several times in a night.
Say are you sure? well let me know if you change your mind ok ! Then as always be really cute on stage an dmake sure they can see you doing dances . If you give a boring dance and other guys can see you than why wold they want to danc with you ? and beleive me if tha can watch they wil . but soem guys are just weird too sorry for all the bad spelling today
I like to respect a customers wishes. If he sees that sometimes they change their mind. At my club I know some girls just wont leave guys alone when they ask for dances. If they see that Im not hounding them they ay think "oh shes alright, maybe I will take that dance." Like bostondancer said... tell them the offer is open or to let me kow if they change their minds.
I agree, if a guy says no, I usually say ok then if you don't mind then I'll come and see how you are doing after I get off stage. Usually then about half of the guys I ask are willing to get a LD. But, some guys are very picky. One guy loved my look, my dancing, and my body but hated my tattoos. He would only get dances from me if I hid them so he couldn't see them. Made for very intersting positions and great ad libbing. I usually ask evey guy at least once, then pick a guy to soit with if he looks like he could use a good talking to.
Kitana