is anyone going to see this movie, it comes out tomorrow. Personally, I have been waiting to see this movie for months now. You can go to this website and click on your state to see where it is playing. http://www.f911tix.com/
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is anyone going to see this movie, it comes out tomorrow. Personally, I have been waiting to see this movie for months now. You can go to this website and click on your state to see where it is playing. http://www.f911tix.com/
I'm definitely planning on seeing this one. I've been waiting for it. Should be extremely interesting.
Sorry to be so uninformed... but what is this movie about?
I'll see it.
Poop banana lady, Click below to see the trailer.
I'm personally making it a point not to see this movie after Michael Moore accepted financial help from terrorist group Hisbollah to distribute it.
You can find out Michael Moore's view on the movie at (complete with trailer)
You can find out some actual facts about subjects portrayed in the movie at
I am definitely going to see his movie. I just listened to a CD Rom of Greg Palast's book called The Best Democracy That Money Can Buy. Mr. Palast is also an investigative reporter. Like Michael Moore, he is not liked by the Grand.Old.Party. (or as I like to refer to them the Gaudians.Of.Plutocracy.)
Anyone who wants more information about how corrupt EG2 is should also check out http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=195&row=1
There are so many books out now about how corrupt EG2 is that it won't be easy for those scumbags to pull another Florida. I can't wait until November.
I actually feel like a total idiot for not protesting the theft of the 2000 election. Only people in Europe heard about all of the details in Greg Palast's book.
No matter what the Republican Noise Machine tries to pull over our eyes and ears ----KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!
Every time I dance for some young kid who is just getting back from war, or getting ready to go back, it just makes me sick!
I hear ya on both counts!Quote:
Originally Posted by livenudegirlsunite link=board=1;threadid=10447;start=msg127889#msg127 889 date=1088159736
My left wing ass will be there, hell yeah!
There's no proof Micheal Moore took Hezbollah (yes, it has several different spellings) money to finance the film. That's one of the most bizarre rumors I've heard in a loooong time.
I'm going to the theater at 1:30 to see this. This is the first time I have to go to the theater by myself, but fuck it - I have to see the footage of Bush sitting in that classroom dumbfounded for 11 minutes while his aides tell him about the first attack and then the second attack and how he spent 116 of his first 140 days as president vacationing all over the world. This movie is going to be great.
I cant wait to see it....i hope its as good as Bowling for Columbine.
If you put down $1 million in cash right in front of me and told me it's all mine in exchange for seeing this movie I wouldn't take it. For $2 million, I'd think about it, but for $1 million, it's not worth my time to sit through such an agonizing piece of lies, half-truths, out of context statemens, and anti-American tripe.
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Originally Posted by DancerWealth link=board=1;threadid=10447;start=msg127925#msg127 925 date=1088167931
WOW...did you see Bowling for Columbine?
How do you know its full of lies if you havent seen it?
For the record, no one knew that the first plane was part of a terrorist attack; his advisers only told him what they knew at the time--which was that a plane had impacted the WTC in NYC. What exactly do you think he should have done, given that level of information?Quote:
This is the first time I have to go to the theater by myself, but fuck it - I have to see the footage of Bush sitting in that classroom dumbfounded for 11 minutes while his aides tell him about the first attack and then the second attack and how he spent 116 of his first 140 days as president vacationing all over the world.
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WOW...did you see Bowling for Columbine?
How do you know its full of lies if you havent seen it?
It's not exactly a secret anymore: http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
See, Michael Moore used to do some great stuff--Roger and Me, TV Nation, et al. But then he decided that if he injected more fiction and less fact into documentaries--films that by their definition are supposed to be factually correct--he would generate more controversy and thus, more attention, thereby feeding his ego, which continues to balloon like his gut.
It's fine that he has a neo-Marxist political agenda. You're entitled to that in this country. But when you wrap it up under the guise of a documentary, you're really just peddling propaganda and you should say as much. At least that would be honest and respectable.
Still, it should be a good film for conspiracy freaks and could serve as gospel for those with limited critical thinking capabilities.
How do I know it's full of lies before I see it? Because I know the source. It's like saying "How do you know that Louis Farakkahn's new book is anti-semetic before you read it?" Yes, I did see Bowling for Columbine and I also saw some of the footage that many people didn't see, such as the opening scene unedited. Most people aren't aware that the entire opening scene of the move filmed at the bank was 100% staged. That he asked cooperation from everyone at the bank and lied to them to get the footage he wanted. What you saw was him walking into a bank, filling out one form, and then getting a gun. What you didn't see was the 1 1/2 hour process it took for that to happen. Of course he didn't want to show you the footage of them checking his ID, doing the Federal background check on him and him filling out numerous forms to that effect. etc. Through VERY creative editing and sly inuendos, Moore would like you to believe he walked into a bank, signed a form, and then was given his own gun. That was hardly the case. Testimony later from people in the bank even said that Moore deceived and manipulated everyone there to get the footage he wanted. The movie is full of scenes like that...staged scenes, half-truths and bold faced lies. Moore is brilliant at taking things way out of context such as the golf swing shot in his latest movie or as I believe Ryan mentioned, the book reading scene. That's a classic one actually. Here, Bush is reading a book to some elementary school students when he is told about the plane hitting the WTC. The footage shows that Bush kept reading like nothing happened to make him look bad. Everyone reacts differently to different situations. Here Bush is getting slammed for doing that. Now, what if the scenario was different? What if Bush jumped to his feet and spring into action. Then the same people like Moore would be condemning him for doing that, saying "See, he knew about it all along! He was just waiting for this to happen so he could launch his war on Iraq tha the had planned out! He can't wait to start a war and this is proof!" With Moore spinning these types of things the way he does, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Moore has a strong political agenda, and much like other people in his camp, he is willing to do anything to support that agenda regardless of his allergy to the truth.
I accept your opinions...im still going to see it and form my own opinions....i wont judge anythign i dont really know about.
And on those merrits, I completely and wholeheartedly suggest you see it!Quote:
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:flower: I did see Bowling for Columbine and am from Colorado. BFC was incredible and very accurate about the terrible tragedy that dumbfounded Colorado. It was a horrible crime and caused much contraversy with the county officials, the NRA, and the writer/producer of this film. I think however, that Michael Moore is way too far out there. I appreciate his art, but he looses his message in his quest to ram his person opinions down our throats. In the film, MM and some Columbine survivors go to the headquarters of KMart to try to convince them to stop the sale of bullets. The weapons that were used at Columbine held bullets that were purchased there. What did K-Mart have to do with Columbine? They sold bullets. You can buy bullets anywhere.
The corp did agree to stop selling bullets over the counter. He even brutally attacked Charlton Heston because he is the head of the NRA. Guns did not kill the kids at Columbine, well, they did, but it took Dylan and Eric to use them. THey can't fire by themselves! GUns don't kill people - people do!
The reality of Columbine was that two kids were sick and tired of being bullied. They were also on anitdepressant meds which can cause one to be violent. One day in April, 1999, they went to their high school with plans to kill everyone and blow the place up. THey had specific people as targets for murder. Most of their bombs were duds but they did succeed in killing 13 students and wounding others.
My point? Michael Moore's causes are misguided. We should get, from the film, that we need to be better parents, we need more community support and to pay more attention to our kids.
I do not intend to see Farenheight 9-11. I like my president, I voted for him. I also believe that anything in contrary to supporting him and the USA, is an act of pure treason and should be punished as so.
Big D
I was understanding what you were saying until that last part :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by bjmcinti link=board=1;threadid=10447;start=msg127981#msg127 981 date=1088178575
This is gonna get off-topic...but....from what you said...
Maybe we should just have a dictatorship. Why do we need to vote? Why should what the people want count? Maybe we should do away with the bill of rights... :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
I do not like our president at all.
All we have to realize is that more people in this country voted for someone else to be president.
There is a reason Bush's who term in office has been full of scandal, from the election to this war, everythign has been shady. He has not been upfront with the american people.
I dont like him....and I will voice my opinion as I please. I will NOT support our president, if you call that an act of treason, thats your opinion. But it is the opinion of our constitution that its my RIGHT as an american to do as I please. The right we fought and died for.
It really scares me what Bush has done to this country and where this country is going under this horrid right wing control.
end of my rant :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Hey! If you are coing to make a point - please state your arguements. In your post, I see not clear information as to your beliefs! If you can provide a little more research as to why you believe the way that you do, I would like to read it! SO far, you are only saying that you do not like President Bush. I do not consider that an act of treason, what I do consider an act of treason is making a documentary that is slanderous of the leader of our country.
Big D
If you'll notice from Michael Moore's own website, you may have difficulty finding a theatre which is running "Farenheit 9/11" unless you live in a large US city. The reason for this is that Disney, the parent company of Miramax and original backers of this film, is displeased with Moore and also with Miramax. To show their displeasure (as well as their tacit opinion of the film I suppose) Disney refused to distribute it. This left Moore and Miramax scrambling for financing. As a result the film will be shown in less than 500 US theaters, versus the 1000+ claimed by Moore.Quote:
I think Moore was offered assitance, I don't know of him having accepted it. Yes, I will see it. No one else is doing anything like this. After two wars plus the ongoing "war" on terrorism, I think there should be more projects like this
Distribution of this film outside of the USA became an even lower financial priority for Moore and Miramax. However this is where Hezbollah came into the picture, offering to provide financing for the distribution of "Farenheit 9/11" to as many theatres as possible in the middle east. Moore gladly accepted the offer, and as a result millions of middle easterners will now get a "Moore's eye view" of George W. Bush - which many will undoubtedly accept as 100% accurate since they have no other basis to judge the content or Moore's motives.
I agree entirely with this position. However, odds are that 99% of Moore's portrayals are not historically accurate, are incomplete and selectively edited, and/or are taken way out of context. Unless you are willing to do the research necessary to truly assess theQuote:
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(in)accuracy of this film, you are in danger of accepting Moore's premises and speculations at face value.
This is my only real problem with Michael Moore's recent films - that they are portrayed as documentaries when in fact they are works of fiction. IMHO Moore has the right to tackle any subject matter he chooses, to portray it any way he wants to, to chop, add, fabricate etc. to his heart's content. However, when Moore's melodrama is portrayed by world news media as a documentary - which supposedly is an accurate report of real world events - this is at best dishonest.
It's also interesting to note that "Farenheit 9/11" is now the subject of a federal election law case. A federal judge will soon rule whether or not the release of "Farenheit 9/11" violates campaign finance laws on the grounds that it is actually a political attack advertisement against George W. Bush being released within 6 months of the national election which was not funded in accordance with campaign finance laws.
supposedly every word of fareheit is facts that can be backed up from reports in the government recrors avialable through the freedom of information act. Moore knows this video is going to be under scrutiny so of course he will not just make shit up and tar his reputation. And for the record DancerWealth, Moore did show on BFC that he had to have a background check and fill out forms and such. In my opinion he does seem to overdo some things a little, but way less than the flat out lies and deciet our president is serving out every day. He is serving the interests of his billionaire friends and saying fuck everyone else. I think he will go down as the worst president ever due to his disreguard for the environment, disreguard for our soldiers, working man, minorities, veterans, gays, foreign countries ect.
The only people who are in favor of bush are the middle age and older wealthy white men who own because that's who bush is looking out for. The rest of us, the other 99 percent of the country, fuck em. In F9/11 bush is having a dinner with his wealthy supporters where he says "there are the have's, and there us the have mores"
He also claims he is sent here by God to run this country. I just don't see it.
It's showing here at the Showcase Cinema in Warwick. Most likely it's showing throughout the state, because we're usually the last to get the new ones.. LOL
I'll probably check it out this weekend.
If anyone sees it before then, post a review!
the film is in 850 theatres, which is a lot. 5 of my 10 local theatres are showing it.
Way more theatres than supersize me.
I really hope we start seeing more of these documentary style movies, they are much more interesting to me than the usual dribble played at theatres. Besides, reality is stranger than fiction.
this has me curious and since I'm a stripper have nothing to do all day, I think I will catch the next showing
anything that causes a lot of controversy makes me want to see it. I love how all the reviews are either A or F from Yahoo users. Most cirtics give it an A.
Melonie, it's not an "attack" on george bush, it is a documentary (or whatever you want to call it) about george bush. Moore says nothing bad about bush, he let's bush's actions speak for themselves. Some people may actually walk out of the theater liking bush more. If he slandered bush, which he didn't - then there might be a legitimate case.
people are going to love the movie or hate it based on wether or not they like Bush. Some people can go into a movie and put aside their opinions about Bush and take the movie for what its worth....some(read MOST) people can't. I beleive I can, even with my strong dislike for Bush.
calling it a documentry is as much Moore's fault as it is the Media's....
Moore does over do things....but lets not forget this is Hollywood...even if it is a "documentary" and he is trying to make a point, it is his point which is biased...but a point no less. Wether or not you accept is it is up to you.
If the movie was so innacurate why doesnt someone make a rebuttle movie proving all of Moore's comments are false? Im going to guess b/c they cant.
BJM....i didnt want to get into a whole thing about why i dont like bush and go on listing points...this post is already too long ;) I have my reasons....i'll leave it at that. If you want to give me reasons why Bush has been a great president please feel free....b/c i know of none.