What is a high roller to you?
I'm sure this will be different for everyone. I probably spend more than most each visit but certainly don't consider myself a high roller. ::)
To me that would be somone who could drop a grand a night and tip a couple hundred extra and not even feel it. Or someone who could afford those $600 an hour chamagne rooms.
In another thread, a member refered to a customer that always dropped 3 to 4 as a high roller. What does it mean to you?
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Depends on the club/region I would argue. Your high roller is not necessarily my high roller. [rollin]
I don't know about you, but it almost always seems to me that there is someone willing to pay more than I ever would dream of paying (like a 30 dance in a row kind of person...)...to me that seems kinda absurd but again, this is just IMHO. I like to go in for a few dances, maybe more if I'm really into the dance or feeling extra wealthy. For places w/real "champagne rooms" it does seem like the sky's the limit...I've definitely seen/heard people who drop a grand + without thinking too much about it in Prov clubs, but that's definitely not the average spender...
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It seems like there is always someone who is spending an absurd amount of money, and I've fallen into that category myself. I'd guess the average guy will spend between $100 and $300 per visit. I prefer to "buy out" girls I like for the whole night, from 6:30p-2 or 3am. They're guarenteed more than what they usually make for the night, and we can spend lots of time just sitting and talking, with lots of lap dances thrown in to break things up, and the lap dance sessions can go as long as we want. I like it because I don't need to be looking around to find my ATF, or waiting for her to finish lapping some other guys. She'll still do her stage sets, but when she's done she comes over to me. I think it also makes her more desireable for other customers who can't get to her for a dance and want to. They'll get her when I'm not there. I show up a couple of times per month, and will give her between $800 and $1000 for the evening, or maybe a little more. She only has to split the lap dances we do with the house, and we usually do less than the 40 dances or so that $1000 will buy, so it's like her doing 50 or 60 dances to make the same money after she splits the fee with the club. It takes a while before I want to do it like this with a girl. I have to get to know her pretty well first and vice versa. Obviously, her personality is key to making this work for me, and I've found a couple of girls I like doing it with this way with. I don't know if this is a high roller, but I wouldn't consider myself to be one. I think throwing out $100's for stage tips borders on high roller, and I've seen that a few times, and even done it for my ATF's last dance as sort of a tip. I'm sure there are plenty of guys who spend way more than I do though.
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I think a high roller is someone who can spend as much as they want and come in as often as want.So to consider myself a high roller I would have enough money to constantly get vip dances for a few hours and be able to do it on a weekly basis at MBOT. Money wise were talking around a G an outing and I usually go once a month with 4-7 but one time I got to live the dream and spend like a baller.Anybody wanna donate to my "help the coolshot fund"? Its a really good cause that helps the less fortunate coolshot to become a high roller someday so that the coolshot may truly enjoy the joys of visiting an SC.
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I prefer to "buy out" girls I like for the whole night, from 6:30p-2 or 3am.
Sorry michaeldane, but I hate when guys do that, especially with my favorites! Maybe I'm just jealous that I'm not the high roller that you are, but it drives me nuts.
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After $500 I think, hey he's spending some cash all right. After $800 or so I guess is a high-roller. Another way to look at it is number of dances from the same girl....a dozen or more sounds high-roller to me.
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A high roller to me is someone who spends over a grand on a single dancer in addition to drinks, tips for other dancers etc.
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Dude.....$1000 a couple times a month and you dont consider yourself a high roller? Think of it this way.....for $2k a month you could be driving up to that SC in a nice Mercedes SL500. Curiously, what kind of car do you drive?
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LMAO... uhhh... some of us have problematic ex-wives. Any outward signs of wealth would get us dragged back into court in a heartbeat. No no no more child support and alimony for her. ;) Let's just say I won't be accumulating material goods for about 2 more years. ;D
As far as my SC habit, it was worse than you suggest the first 5 months of last year. It is lower than your figure now by about the same amount it was over. One thread on this board promted me to do some calculations. I figure I'm conservatively responsible for 25% of my ATF's income for the last 8 months. ::) That has me contemplating retirement again. :P
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What is a high roller to me? One word: fishnet ;D!! LMAO
No offense fishnet, you're a high-roller in my book and I aspire to someday have the ability to roll as high!!
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From a dancer's perspective: I think a high roller is anyone who can afford (without hurting the finances) to
1) spend more than 2 sessions in vip in one night on a regular basis - ie, more than once per month
or
2) spend more than 1k per visit on girls (excluding drinks, bar/wait tips, etc) more than once per month.
It is very commonplace for guys to spend up to $500 on girls in one night, excluding drinks and staff tips. When I say girls, I don't necessarily mean the same girl. Whether or not the dough is spread between multiple girls or all spent on one, if a guy is spending 1k on girls, plus drinks and staff tips, he's a high roller.
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I didn't know I was a high roller until I was broke and got dissed for not buying dances "like I used to."
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I'd have to agree with most on the idea of a high roller who can walk in, spend money without limit, and walk out without blinking an eye. I have a couple of friends like that, one in Houston and one here in Austin who needs to get his ass back from Houston. LOL! Both guys are totally incapable of spending LESS than $1000 per GC visit and make very frequent trips to strip clubs (2-4 times per week). Now THOSE guys ARE high rollers!!
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Richard Head (great name by the way; hahaha)- The reason I do that is because I drive a long way to this place (+400 miles) and the only reason I go is for the girl, so I want to spend all my time there with her. We also have a relationship outside the club, but some days when I'm there she has to work, so I spend the evening with her in the club. I respect the fact that she's working, and wouldn't think of not paying her for it, nor woud I want my presence there to diminish what she might make otherwise. I realize it might piss off some guys who want to dance with her, but there are plenty of girls in this club, most of whom are good-looking, so nobody will have trouble getting a good dance if she and I are together for the night.
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Spending $400 on one dancer more than once a month would make you a high roller in the mid-level clubs I know. But why would you do that?... I used to catch a dancer after her weekly double champagne with an old lawyer. She just wanted to have fun, because she already had the money.... I catch another dancer off-peak every other month. I give her $120 and she gets into it for an hour.... Just give them whatever they want but can't get from other guys EXCEPT lots of money.
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Spending $400 on one dancer more than once a month would make you a high roller in the mid-level clubs I know. But why would you do that?... I used to catch a dancer after her weekly double champagne with an old lawyer. She just wanted to have fun, because she already had the money.... I catch another dancer off-peak every other month. I give her $120 and she gets into it for an hour.... Just give them whatever they want but can't get from other guys EXCEPT lots of money.
Let see if I got this right, find girls who are up against it for the rent or car payment and negotiate them down for dances, find girls who are emotionally deprived so they can be manipulated into cheaper dances, find girls who are in an off peak cycle and offer them less money for an hour dance. Hmmm that doesn’t sound like a high roller to me. Sounds a guy pretending to be a high roller but in actuality is a cheap bastard.
How much a guy spends doesn’t necessarily make him a high roller. A high roller is a guy who can afford to and does get multiple dances whenever he is in the club, whether that’s once a month or once a week. He appreciates a dancer for her services and is willing to pay the going price for those services without negotiating, treats the girls with respect, tips well and always leaves the club feeling like he had a good time, not feeling that he was ripped off.
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No, this has nothing to do with rent or car payment.... The girl with the old lawyer got plenty of money, but after two hours of boredom and $600, she wanted to have fun. I'd ask for two topless dances and she'd dance nude for four, then hang around. She had no respect for the high roller, so why play that game?... The off-peak girl calls her high rollers "puppies" and has no respect for them. She gets a rush out of being a "cheap slut" (her words) when they're not around.... Dancers who grew up in lower middle class families often have a deep distrust of high rollers.
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When you're by yourself and your sitting with 4 dancers at the same time. This happend last night. They know I don't have the money to get dances from everybody but just like to hang with me. It's not my problem that everybody likes me. Actually that's just me acting like a pimp.
I consider that they have alots of money. I consider spending $200 on one girl twice a week and only spends his money on her. Hell my ATF doesn't mind it but the dude annoy the hell out of her.