Your favorite regular has a discretionary amout of around uhmm let's say $500 monthly to contribute.
Would you prefer to see that fave spend $250 on you twice a month or would you prefer to see him drop $100 five times a month?
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Your favorite regular has a discretionary amout of around uhmm let's say $500 monthly to contribute.
Would you prefer to see that fave spend $250 on you twice a month or would you prefer to see him drop $100 five times a month?
MW, they would probably rather have you spend all $500 in one visit...that way they can maximize their time LOL
FBR
Right. Right. lol
Think like a dancer and the answer would be simple.
not me 250 twice a month. two nice starts or ends to an evening is better than one big chunk.
Thanks Velvet. I would have though the steadiness of having someone visit more frequently would have been the popular choice too. This website arouses so many curiosities. :)
For me if its my ATF in the wolrd I would say 5 times per100.00........ I am always in a better mood, smile more, and make more when he comes in......
Any other, I'd have to go with 2 times per 250.00, those to big shifts like that would be nice........
Licks Cyn
$100 five times a month, $250 twice a month, or once at $500 a month. It really doesn't matter to me because it all works out to be the same gross profit in the end and I try to look at it in a more general way than what I make any given night.
If I had to pick though, I'd say $100 5 times a month. More consistant that way. Then at least once a week, sometimes twice, you can count on that person coming in. Just my opinion though!
SL
MW - Good question, it is one I've had myself.
Ladies - Thanks for your input.
I like the idea of 2 trips at $250 each, but I'm such a SCJ for my ATF, I go for the first trip and drop the $500, then I'm hitting the ATF for the next trip anyway :-\ I really have to become more disaplined.
I've asked my ATF about your question and she is always saying whatever I prefer is fine with her.
I've also asked if I'm going to do say 15 dances in one night would she rather do 3 sets of 5, one at 15 etc. Here, she said her optimum is around 5 dances per set or so.
One thought, I'm always busting my ATF about something. She says she is frequently slow and doesn'y get a lot of LD action, but whenever I come in she always has no problem getting guys to dance with her. I asked if she was giving me SS to get me in more often. She said that she always does better when I'm in because non regulars see us going to the LD area a lot - her thought is that they think that if she is getting so many LDs that she must be really good. And on days when it's slow and she is not getting dances, it is harder to get guys to dance.
SS or does it have some basis in fact? Ladies??
Thanks
Spanky, Don't know if your read my thread about my ATF customer, because of the mood he puts me in I make more money when he is in.....
The concept of wanting what you can't have also holds true, they want dances but she is busy, so they want her more..
She knows she is going to make money with you there, so most likely she is in a better mood, smiley happy ect, and it shows through to other customers......
I do believe that yes there is truth in what she is telling you....
If you are busy, and look happy and sexy while your busy, you'll in turn be in high demand..........
Licks Cyn
That depends upon which dancer you are thinking like. This dancer would prefer 5/$100. A favored regular is someone I can touch base with all night long, giving me a great vantage point from which to scout out new prey. Most of them also get a kick out of trying to pick a new customer out for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moneywise link=board=9;threadid=1244;start=msg18594#msg18594 date=1075866748
All in all, the profit will be the same. Let's maximize the fun instead. We'll save the 1 visit/$500 or 2/$250 for the guys that make me grit my teeth all night.
LMAO Spanky!!! :D Both the ATF and my current fav have told me the same things. More times than I can count. When I'm in the house, they both get hammered with requests for dances. Trust me, I keep 'em off the floor as much as possible. ;D Both have told me they never get asked for dances. When I'm there, the other guys ask away. I always thought it was pure SS. It's happened too many times though. ::) My theory became... they all ready saw all the other girls before mine went on stage. Both the ATF and current fav are such lookers in comparison the guys can't help but go "whoa mama!" "I gotta get me some." LOL. It's probably SS though. ::)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanky link=board=9;threadid=1244;start=msg18617#msg18617 date=1075919706
Im surprised I made a bad call on this one. I would have bet money that you ladies would rather have the big chunka change all at once. As they say, a bird in the hand yada yada. Anyways, having learned this, Im going to change my modus operadi. From now on I'll go everyday but only spend $100 on each visit. I know Miss B/Miss D will be pleased to see me more often. After all, its not about the money, right? LOL
FBR
My favorites just want everyone to see that someone REALLY REALLY likes them. I might be in the area and pop in just long enough for a long hug and two dances.... I usually have a designated off-peak time and a surprise time. The surprise times change, so they can always imagine it could happen within the next five minutes.... It helps to encourage anticipation and longing.
I agree with FBR on this one... If we are evaluating this strictly thru basic economics, then the concept of present value of money would apply, and the dancer would opt for the lump sum, if given the choice… IMO.
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Originally Posted by SW2 link=board=9;threadid=1244;start=msg18646#msg18646 date=1075951872
I ONLY have an off-peak time during which I visit spending 90% of my time with my ATF. The thought of adding a changing surprise time is intriguing and may force me to spend less on each visit (been trying to). The surprise time would also force me to branch out a bit as I would not call ahead to see if she were there. That anticipation thing would then go both ways. Interesting. Very interesting. 8)
Basic Finance 101...if you won the lottery, would you take the payments of lump sum? Derive the time/value of money and you will almost ALWAYS take the lump sum depending on the present value of the future sum....since you cannot accurately predict systematic risk, ie, the market, or Mr. Regular getting caught by Mrs. Regular and placed on short leash...opt for lump sum....
Besides, the more $$$$ that rolls in, the more "intimate" the dances get. If you come back...we'll start anew...hehehehehehe, meow!
From the dancer's point of view, I agree...lump sum to maximize the income.
From a customer's point of view, I'm looking for a return on my investment. The way to maximize the pleasure for the fixed amount I have to spend. So I would "randomly" vary the amount I am spending, so the dancer never knows how much she will make. If the "performance" is good, it sometimes gets a big reward and sometimes doesn't.
Sort of like training your pet with rewards for good behavior. It is well known that a variable reinforcement schedule gets better results than a fixed one.
Keep her guessing and you get the most ROI.
EvilCyn and Fishnet - Thanks for your feedback. It is uncanny how busy she gets when I'm there.
I like concept of changing up the count of the LDs. I've become too much of a three sets of five dances guy with FAV 1A. On the other hand, FAV 1B really works it every song. Sometimes she gets three dances other times we go forever! Just a side note, FAV 1B is so comfortable to dance with. With some other girls it actually gets tiring after five or so, but with 1B we can go 10 or 15 songs and I never stop because of feeling tired or sore (no not there). I guess we are perfectly shaped together - LOL.
We as performers are looking at being adequately compensated for our time and effort as well....however, over time one can form friendships with those who come into the club..and fellows don't sell your worth short to us by succumbing to tactics that one might deploy in training pets! A variable reinforcement will get you such as VARIABLE results...be upfront..I am always happy to see/sit with someone who has been nice, fair and upfront...meaning that they will tell me when they may have it in thier budget to splurge, and when i can sit and chat in solice(being they are extending what they have to offer--their charm, a couple drinks)and also need to go forth and hustle....I always remember them because they are forthright..they know my job, respect i need to hustle when they cannot give appropriate funds...these are the fellows most gals appriciate because they let them know that they will spend when they have it; allow the girls to carry on without guilt otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookie Monster link=board=9;threadid=1244;start=msg18660#msg18660 date=1075997339
I say 250 twice. I get bored any longer, then Im tired and no longer in the entertaining mood and want to move on.