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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
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Originally Posted by Jenny
If this particular and exact woman has been giving and friendly and forthright at a price he can well afford, then perhaps mind games with this particular and exact woman are a little out of place?
I wouldn't think so. In a paying arrangement like this one, I think a little mind gaming is part of the excitement of it. If it's relatively minor in its intent and effect, I don't see the harm. It's a bit of mischief borne of curiousity, not full-scale maliciousness. In fact, if I were her, I would kinda hope he'd do it for the rush it would give him, which he then would associate with me.
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Originally Posted by Jenny
I mean, what would he do if he finds out that she is is actually in love with him and wants to see him for free?
At this late stage? I think she'd have made that happen by now, so it's probably reasonable to rule that out.
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Originally Posted by Jenny
I mean, what would one be trying to find out with this charade and why?
It's what the pickup artist types call a shit test. Will she pass it with flying colors, behaving as he hopes and expects her to, or will she fail and come across as an outwardly blatant greedy bitch? Part of the enjoyment in it is not knowing the outcome ahead of time. Aka, pseudo risk. Plus, since he's giving it so much significance in his mind, he's fucking with his own self, too. In short, a fantasy of him having power in the situation.
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Originally Posted by Jenny
And you guys wonder why some of the pinkies despise you.
Nah, that's just 'cause we frequently get our tampons in sideways and want to blame innocent blueballers for it. Hahaha.
-Ev
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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
Ev, great post :)
In thinking about it, I do fuck with her a little from time to time. Sometimes on purpose...other times just because Im in a mood and having one of those days. But, again reflecting, my grumpiness seems to draw her in rather than pushing her away. I can only assume that in the balance Im a superior source of income, not all that demanding in the scheme of things and compared to other hypothetical guys that would contibute money wise what I do and cosidering their probable expectations, I beat a sharp stick in the eye.
I feel empowered :P
FBR
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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
My ATF left me for a sharp stick in the eye.
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Nah, that's just 'cause we frequently get our tampons in sideways and want to blame innocent blueballers for it. Hahaha.
Ev, love - I wouldn't even know how to begin.... honey, how would you even begin to insert a tampon sideways?
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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
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Originally Posted by evan_essence
I think a little mind gaming is part of the excitement of it.
Sure, it sounds like they have a pretty good understanding of each other and it works for them. A little bit of playful pushing of the limits can be fun. Plus FBR really doesn't come across as the malicious type anyway.
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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
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Originally Posted by Jenny
Ev, love - I wouldn't even know how to begin.... honey, how would you even begin to insert a tampon sideways?
Well, you have to be very limber. Um, on second thought, I plead facetiousness.
-Ev
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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
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Originally Posted by evan_essence
It's what the pickup artist types call a shit test.
aka romancing a sex worker.
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Originally Posted by evan_essence
Nah, that's just 'cause we frequently get our tampons in sideways and want to blame innocent blueballers for it. Hahaha.
no, it's rolled in ground glass, covered in fire ants, dipped in naplam and then inserted sideways.
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Originally Posted by FBR
What followed was a most excellent FTB. After her fourth pop, with me still hanging in there, she said breathlessly "Aaaaaa...I cant believe your still not done yet". But she hung on tight for a fifth.
ya gotta pace yourself, FBR. that sounds like too way much work. frankly, unless by some miraculous chance it happens for her in 2 or 3 minutes. there's not enough Gatorade in the world to help me recover from such an ordeal.
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Originally Posted by evan_essence
Well, you have to be very limber. Um, on second thought, I plead facetiousness.
-Ev
damn. And I thought I was going to learn something. And I'm interested in whether detailed instruction on tampon insertion would cause FBR to change his mind and move these posts.
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Originally Posted by mr_punk
ya gotta pace yourself, FBR. that sounds like too way much work. frankly, unless by some miraculous chance it happens for her in 2 or 3 minutes. there's not enough Gatorade in the world to help me recover from such an ordeal.
I do try to pace myself because of my age, blood pressure etc. But sometimes I get caught up in the moment. It is pretty cool to rub lotion covered flesh with a hot woman half your age.
LOL Your comment got me thinking about an OTC incident from a few weeks ago. It was right after a four popper for her. I felt pretty whipped but staggered into the shower with her. My heart was pounding like a mutha and I got to thinking...Holy Shit what if I just collapsed here? Would she try to resussitate me? Or would she just bail? Does my life insurance policy disclaim payment if I am found dead in a hotel room rented by a stripper?
Fortunately, my ticker settled down and we finished the shower fun without me creating drama. But I probably should see if there is some fine print in my policy. I know they disclaim payment if you are a skydiver. I paid them to get rid of the motorcycle rider clause. But I didnt think of potential junkie liability.
FBR
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^ At least you die with a smile on your face.
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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
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Originally Posted by FBR
I do try to pace myself because of my age, blood pressure etc. But sometimes I get caught up in the moment. It is pretty cool to rub lotion covered flesh with a hot woman half your age.
now, if you include a nude pic of Miss D on your gravestone. i think that would make a nice epitath, FBR.
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Originally Posted by FBR
Holy Shit what if I just collapsed here? Would she try to resussitate me? Or would she just bail? Does my life insurance policy disclaim payment if I am found dead in a hotel room rented by a stripper?
you know, they should have a special service where if a guy dies in flagrante delicto. they would come and collect the body, dry clean the clothes or destroy evidence. also, they would create a fake scenario to make it look like the guy died under completely different circumstances like putting the dead body in a car and rolling it off a cliff, etc. i think that would be a good niche business.
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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
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Originally Posted by mr_punk
you know, they should have a special service where if a guy dies in flagrante delicto. they would come and collect the body, dry clean the clothes or destroy evidence. also, they would create a fake scenario to make it look like the guy died under completely different circumstances like putting the dead body in a car and rolling it off a cliff, etc. i think that would be a good niche business.
Good idea. Sort of like Harvey Keitel in Pulp Fiction. At least from the standpoint of cleaning up the mess.
FBR
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Originally Posted by FBR
I do try to pace myself because of my age, blood pressure etc. But sometimes I get caught up in the moment. It is pretty cool to rub lotion covered flesh with a hot woman half your age.
FBR
You're a better man than I am FBR. I limit myself to women about three fifths my age and have a careful regimen of BP meds and Viagra before the lotion, or anything else, comes out.}:D
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Looks like I'll have to step up to the plate since doc's being so coy about his
rendezvous. The following is a story of perseverance.
You all know the type of dancer I am immediately attracted to: big boobs, preferably on a Latina or black dancer. Of course, I'll always "settle" for smokin' hot white chick like Bridgette, too. ;)
It was dayshift at the club. Sometime back in October. Fairly mundane afternoon, nothing to write home about. 1-2 dancers who looked like possibilities, but mostly just the "anti-CP" archetypal dancer (pasty white skin to go with peroxided hair, no boobs and a too big ass, and no game whatsoever). It really doesn't matter where you go; all bad dayshifts look exactly the same. The only difference might be the number of tattoos or visible surgical scars on the dancers, no matter how "upscale" the club claims to be.
All of a sudden, a name I hadn't heard before is announced. I look up, and immediately I feel like Michael Corleone when he sees, for the first time, Apollonia Vitelli walking along the dusty trail. Lightning bolts! This dancer is tall. Touch the top of the stage ceiling tall (and doesn't even have to straighten out her arms. Gotta be 6'7" in her stripper heels. She's wearing a gold mini-dress and knows how to work it. Gorgeous. If she were on the cover, I would be pleasuring myself to that copy of Glamour magazine, she's that hot. No boobs at all, and it absolutely doesn't matter in the slightest to me. That's how smokin' hot she is. I turn into Reggie Jackson in Police Squad, but instead of "I must kill the Queen" it's "I must tip the dancer. I must tip the dancer." I get to the stage and reach up, up, up to give her the moola. Somehow, I manage to mumble that I'd like to get some dances with her. She smiles, gives me a show, and I retreat to my table and ask the waitress for some digitalis.
She finishes her stage sets and immediately comes down to see me. Smart girl. We chat for a bit, then head directly to the VIP area. The laps. Started out hot. Complete access to the twins--even as small as they were, I still gotta play with and suck on 'em. "You made my nipples stand up! That's hard to do." Good SS is so hard to find. I continue on. The grind is topnotch, if a little too rough. I finally explain to her to bounce less and rub more; she understands and really starts to rub her pussy against my joystick. Is she getting off? I check the oil, and she's definitely lubed up. She starts rubbing faster and faster, moaning in my ear, kissing me (lightly at first, then more and more tongue). A real orgasm? Perhaps, perhaps not. But it worked for me.
We finish at 10 laps. Chat some more. Definite chemistry, but I don't press the OTC issue yet. Just gonna let the experience speak for itself. She tells me her schedule, I pay her and she goes to the dressing room to change her drenched panties. Good times!
Part 2 (the good stuff) to follow.
CP
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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
I assuming Part Two is OTC?
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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
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Originally Posted by Chili Palmer
All of a sudden, a name I hadn't heard before is announced. I look up, and immediately I feel like Michael Corleone when he sees, for the first time, Apollonia Vitelli walking along the dusty trail. Lightning bolts! This dancer is tall. Touch the top of the stage ceiling tall (and doesn't even have to straighten out her arms. Gotta be 6'7" in her stripper heels.<snip>
LOL...i know the feeling. i'm a sucker for tall women with a lean, athletic build myself. i recall having to retrain myself from performing an open field tackle, when i first saw this hot 6-footer (6' 5" with heels and a great posture, walk, ass and leg-to-torso ratio) glide across the floor. i didn't even bother with the formalities. i just grabbed her hand (i actually had to look up into a woman's eyes for a change) said, "i'm ready. let's go". boy, she was a lot of fun and very accommodating.
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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
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Originally Posted by
Jenny
But seriously - am I good, or are you guys easily distracted?
Jenny, we're males, of course we are easily dis.... look, boobies!
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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
Blah. Whoda thought a hotel room would be so hard to find?
I'm leaving on vacation tomorrow so Miss D and I lined up RR/lotion fun for yesterday. After our lunch/drinks foreplay (Smokey Bones this time..she was craving their chicken nachos) we headed up to the Red Roof. No room at the inn, or so the clerk said. Some kind of big convention in town this weekend. I think she said a ballet convention but I can't believe more than a half dozen people would show up for one of those ;) Anyway, with the clerk warning that all the hotels north of town were booked solid, I called bullshit so we left and proceeded to check out four more hotels in the general area. Sumbitch if they weren't all full. Pretty frustrating.
By this time and with all the driving around, I had pretty much chewed up my window of opportunity timewise. I had a dinner appointment I couldnt get out of so I gave up. Had I been smart, I would have taken the first "no" and the subsequent information as gospel and headed to another part of town real quick. Chances are there would have been a room available there. But I didn't.
I had already paid Miss D the 5 small. I normally slip it into her purse at the restaurant rather than giving to her at the hotel. That way I can pretend that I'm not paying for her sexual services and that she really likes me ::) She asked me if I wanted a refund. I'm sure it was a sincere offer. And I did think about the cardinal rule of never letting a stripper out of your site if she has your money before services are rendered. But then I figured what the hell, she's not likely to stiff me and on the off chance she did, the 5 spent would be a small price to pay for the lesson learned. So I told her " Naa...just hang on to it and we'll get together when I get back". She seemed pleased with that response. Maybe she has a bill due that the money will cover. Anyway, we hugged and parted company, her wishing me a safe trip and me teasing her not to get into too much trouble while I am gone. Who am I kidding? ::)
Been working all day today trying to get some tasks completed at work so I can leave with a clear conscience. I finished what needed finishing so I'm just chillin a bit now before heading home to get packed for the trip. I have to admit the aborted RR popped into my mind a few times during the course of the day but..eh..we did have a fun lunch and conversation yesterday. She had on a really cute outfit and had her hair down Lady Godiva style like I like it. And she sent me a nice bon voyage email today. Not the send off I was planning on but it'll do til I get back.
FBR
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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
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Originally Posted by
FBR
I had already paid Miss D the 5 small. I normally slip it into her purse at the restaurant rather than giving to her at the hotel. That way I can pretend that I'm not paying for her sexual services and that she really likes me ::) She asked me if I wanted a refund. I'm sure it was a sincere offer. And I did think about the cardinal rule of never letting a stripper out of your site if she has your money before services are rendered. But then I figured what the hell, she's not likely to stiff me and on the off chance she did, the 5 spent would be a small price to pay for the lesson learned. So I told her " Naa...just hang on to it and we'll get together when I get back". She seemed pleased with that response. Maybe she has a bill due that the money will cover. ...
I guess this would be a bad time to tell you about the $500 I loaned to my first ATF about six years ago...I had lent her money a couple of times and she payed me back with interest in VIP dances within a few weeks each time. On the last occasion she quit dancing due to an illness about a week after I gave her the cash and dropped off the face of the earth for about a year. When she came back there was no mention of the cash from her and I never brought it up...of course, I also never did another dance with her mostly due to some related BS that could fill two or three pages of a SS thread....but I'm sure you and Miss D are cool...;)
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I figured it would be the late cancellation fee. Like, if I cancel on my dentist at the last minute I still have to pay since he has set aside time for me that he could have been using for something else.
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Re: Outside the Club (aka "The Holy Grail")
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Originally Posted by
yoda57us
...she payed me back with interest in VIP dances within a few weeks each time.
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Jenny
I figured it would be the late cancellation fee. Like, if I cancel on my dentist at the last minute I still have to pay since he has set aside time for me that he could have been using for something else.
You get VIP dances from your dentist? :O
That seems a little odd, Jenny. ;D
-gen
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GenWar
You get VIP dances from your dentist? :O
That seems a little odd, Jenny. ;D
-gen
Really?
He told me that was necessary when you got your wisdom teeth out.
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Originally Posted by
yoda57us
I guess this would be a bad time to tell you about the $500 I loaned to my first ATF about six years ago...I had lent her money a couple of times and she payed me back with interest in VIP dances within a few weeks each time. On the last occasion she quit dancing due to an illness about a week after I gave her the cash and dropped off the face of the earth for about a year. When she came back there was no mention of the cash from her and I never brought it up...of course, I also never did another dance with her mostly due to some related BS that could fill two or three pages of a SS thread....but I'm sure you and Miss D are cool...;)
Just got back from vaca. Between all the eating out, partying and running around there and the long drive back home, I need to get back to work so I can get some rest :) Seriously, it was very enjoyable and I sure needed the time off.
Checked my email and saw one from Miss D that she sent right after I left. An excerpt from it is as good a follow up as any.
"Hope you have a great trip. Thanks for the cash anyhow on Fri.--I needed it to pay my stupid rent. I can give you a Sat for it--if you want :) If not, I'll count it towards the "I heart Miss D" retirement fund (hehe).
Call me when you get back. Can't wait to see your white ass (hehe)"
Well, I can't fault her for asking for the 5 as a bonus, although just saying "love" or inserting a heart smilie instead of the word "heart" would have been more effective :P But clearly, she's willing to go along with whatever I decide ;D
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Originally Posted by Jenny
I figured it would be the late cancellation fee. Like, if I cancel on my dentist at the last minute I still have to pay since he has set aside time for me that he could have been using for something else.
Had I cancelled I would agree but it was a ballet convention. That's sort of like an Act of God, right? Or one of those other occurrences that provide non-payment loopholes . But I'm a stand up guy so if I do decide to take advantage of her offer, I will compensate her for the short time we did spend together. Since I bought her a nice lunch and drinks and my charm and conversation was particularly entertaining that day as I recall, my offer probably won't exceed $100. I know that sounds cheap but, well, you just had to be there.
FBR
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James Bond
Wow, 007, I totally missed your comment :O I don't understand from the couple of posts Jenny and I made how you would conclude that she wants to turn my balls into bloody, spermy mush. Jenny and I get along just fine. My feelings would be hurt if she did more than don a set of work gloves (to avoid scrotum cooties) and smack my balls around a little bit...you know...just to wake me up. I'm OK with that. But I don't think she's motivated to inflict permanent damage.
FBR