Have you received the text message that ends with "miss u"?
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Have you received the text message that ends with "miss u"?
It's not her work ethic that bothers me, but the false hope. False hope lets me crawl out of my low-confidence hole and poke my head up at the pretty girlies. Then the *false* part kicks in and back down the hole I go, only this time it's a little bit deeper.
stat LOL surely you have to see how wierd this is getting.
I know I came across as a cynical asshole because I suspect you want her to be real. But shes not. Its hard to accept. Why dont you just shut down the fake OTC bullshit and go back to all those happy ending bed dances. I mean, at the end of the day, most guys just want to cum and after that who cares?
FBR
Lestat1, you can't trust anyone, weather it's a car salesman, a dentist, lawyer, or stripper, when you're buying a service or product from them. They want your money and are going to pretend to be your best friend until they clean you out.
Out of all those people listed, the stripper is at least the most honest of them all; you're going to get your money's worth and at least have a good time. The others will fuck you royal without even a kiss on the cheek.
The dancer might have called you then changed her mind. Whatever the reason, don't expect to be a dancer's friend OTC. I see no point in this. What are you going to be, her errand boy?
Next time you see her, just act like it didn't happen. Don't ask her about it and ignore anymore of her suggestions for OTC friendship.
Oh I absolutely admit it! :)
As much as it stresses me out and I hate *false* hope, the slim sliver of a chance that it's real hope is rather nice.
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p.s. Which is why I'll probably let it drag on like this for a few more weeks or a month, and then do the only sensible thing: actually communicate with her about it. lol Most likely we'll go back to ITC with me feeling a little bruised...until my next VIP and then I'll be fine. ;)
c'mon, FBR. you know the drill. how many times have you thought you knew what a woman wanted (you know, because she told you) only to find out she changed her mind? of course, she never informs him until he screws up because he isn't sensitive enough to know that she changed her mind. i mean, a woman will tell a man to pick an apple from a tree, which is surrounded by constantina wire and a moat with live alligators. so, he gets the apple and gives it to her, only to find out she really wanted a peach from the tree surrounded by an electrified fence, man-eating cannibals and flame throwers....sigh.
whoa, you got me all wrong, FBR. i do like arms and legs on a stripper.
LOL..now, that's classic and strippers wonder why guys pester them about seeing them OTC after they string them along like a puppet.
no, even i know that's a sucker's bet. anyway, i never met the broad and even if she does meet you OTC. she seems pretty flaky. are you sure you want to be her friend? LOL. in any event, what do you expect? there are no guarantees in the sex biz, stat. flakiness and drama comes with the territory. all you can do is laugh and try not to get wrapped up in it..
like i said, don't take it personal. strippers have to string along guys to keep the money flowing. otherwise, customers wouldn't spend as much or as long and would complain that she's not really into him and only after his money.
Punk, you are indeed wise. I also have to admit that on the opposite side of me that tries to have hope, I like seeing what she keeps coming up with next. I wonder what wacky things she'll come up with for why she isn't able to meet for lunch next week, and the week after, etc. :)
I sense a pending 'death in the family.'
LOL...how about an emergency heart/liver/lung transplant for her cat? oh yeah, try to keep a lid on any open double-takes or guffaw until the end of her story.Quote:
Originally Posted by lestat1
Stat,
The only tiny bit of wisdom I can add to this is that the best hustlers partially believe themselves to be honest/good/fair even when manipulating their prey. The best hustlers have no no tells, and since few of us are capable of being tell free when hustling someone else, blurring the lines of what is real and not for the hustler is often how they step up their game. Bottom line is even if a dancer kind of does think she really does like you, even if her emotions are completely genuine, it still doesn't mean that you aren't being hustled to some degree. Your best friend is always a clear minded intellect that faces facts, and so far the facts that you are facing include that she has flaked out multiple times. If we can't be honest with ourselves, no body else will be either.
Preface - this is blue, not pink; it's a customer oriented site, so we tend to discuss things from the customer (of which most of our male) viewpoint that are not PC. So that said...
We all are partially responsible for this situation. Occasionally I have rare moments of clarity when I laugh at what we don't do to gain the favor of a hot woman. Throw huge wads of money at them sure, but every guy here has been with other men in settings where a hot women enters the scene in some way (e.g., the hot waitress who serves lunch, or a new hire at work), and knows how quick we are to enter suck-up/compete mode to gain her favor.
Hey, when the message you receive for a big portion of your life is that guys (and bi/lesbian girls) are anxious to suck up, and practically begging for you to ask them to do favors for you, I guess it's hardly surprising that one would learn to take advantage of that situation (and really after all we all do use of our strengths and advantages to our favor).
Lestat, I wish you well but I'm thinking she just overplayed her hand. I had one dancer who I'd see once or twice a month for a good couple of years (with no mention of any OTC by either of us), I would spend maybe $100 or so a visit (nothing astronomical), much to my surprise the dancer suddenly started broaching the subject of meeting OTC (again, this is after several years), I essentially brushed off the suggestions taking them for SS, plus I was content with things as they were, everytime I stopped in she would bring the subject up again though so finally I relented and called her on it and gave her my number, not surprisingly I never heard from her. Like you I stopped going to the club for a while then finally relented and headed back, the next time I saw her she said "so when are we going to meet OTC???" I just laughed, mentioned that I had given her my number for that purpose and neither of us brought the subject up again. I'm guessing she was hoping to get me either into the club more often or spending more per visit, it didn't really work though as my visits declined if anything.
I wouldn't take offense, but I wouldn't let her continue the barrage of SS, either.
Well, I was giving her the benefit of the doubt, so I'm kind of offended. I think you should skin her. Oh, oh, oh, and then stuff her flesh with something so you prop her up in your living room and you can have a stripper any time you want. Then you can look at her and say "how would you like to meet for lunch NOW? Huh?"
There will have to be some kind of wire or pipe cleaner involved to make her poseable.
Be careful, Jenny. stat is in emotional turmoil and might actually act upon your suggestion. Then we would all have to read about it on the internet and anguish over the fact that we could have prevented such a tragedy. I'd rather him just say to her, in spite of her shadiness "Eh, you are a flaky stripper but you are hot. All is forgiven if you RCG me."
I'm all about happy endings where nobody gets hurt :)
FBR
Well you see FBR - in some ways you and I are very different people. Because I'm all about the vengeful skinning.
FBR - What the heck is RCG?
I was just going to go with standard tipping for a while. Until I cave three seconds after my next VIP because I'm a softee like that and give her more than the standard...like I did last time. :-\
Actually, given the precise nature of these VIPs, I think simply wearing a pair of my silk boxers instead of my usual, absorbant, cotton ones should be sufficient pennance for her and reward for me. Although given past activities with her that really wouldn't phase her one bit. ;)
Jenny,
The vengeful skinning I'll save for Best Buy and the dancer who ripped me off two trips ago. SS is part of the game and the ATF's no mind reader - I can't expect her to know that giving me false hope is more cruel than in most cases.
Now the cranky bitch at Best Buy who yelled at me when we tried to do a simple exchange and the thieving trash who took my $40 tip for one dance and then argued the whole time for more money, calling that my "dance" - them I offer up for skinning (see my 6/20 TripReport for the transcript of that insane conversation).
Wow, that Best Buy incident was over 5 years ago. I definitely have no tolerance for being treated unfairly. Never fails to set off the "stewing in silent anger" 'stat -> >:(