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Whats the best way to offer "the holy grail" ?
I have a regular who I am interested in offering privates to but I'm not sure how to go about offering these services . I'm pretty sure he will be interested as he does vips with me all the time but has to stop after 1 because he doesn't want to get messy and ofcouse I don't either. So how do I tactfully ask him if he's interested ? And is regualr vip price reasonable ?
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Re:Whats the best way to offer "the holy grail" ?
I know a dancer who does playdates(not with me) for $300-$400 depending on how long the guy wants to play and, beleive it or not, on how much she likes him. A lot depends on where you are located. Not to be crude, but once you take it outside the club your competion is no longer the other dancers, it's the local escort services. In the Boston area where I live, a decent escort service will charge about the same price as my dancer friend for one hour and it's obviosly a crap-shoot. It's agood idea not to be too much of a clock watcher. The guy needs to understand that he is paying you for your time but it also needs to feel like this a more relaxed atmosphere than the VIP room at a club or incall.
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Originally Posted by NaughtyNatasha link=board=10;threadid=1551;start=msg24391#msg2439 1 date=1087701905
I have a regular who I am interested in offering privates to but I'm not sure how to go about offering these services . I'm pretty sure he will be interested as he does vips with me all the time but has to stop after 1 because he doesn't want to get messy and ofcouse I don't either. So how do I tactfully ask him if he's interested ? And is regualr vip price reasonable ?
One way you might bring the topic up is to ask him what he thinks about this "trend" you've read about on the web of dancers taking things outside the club with customers for paid "private dancing" sessions. If he sounds at all receptive to the idea, it should be easy to segue into a discussion about a private between you and him.
If he is your regular, he should have some interest! He will likely be willing to pay MORE than he pays for a club VIP session with you.
Be sure to work out an understanding of any mileage boundaries you may have (for the private) in advance of the private.
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Natasha Im not sure if youre for real or not LOL Guess time will tell. But in case you are, here are my thoughts.
Id approach your regular straight up about the privates. I doubt he would be offended even if he wasnt interested. Before you talk to him you need to think about what you want to occur during the privates. I think its important to get that out on the table. Are you thinking just more "frisky" dances or upping the ante which could include BJ, HJ, or some variation of FS? It will be a better experience for all parties if both of you understand what is going to occur ;D
As far as money goes, I dont know that there is a set price. I would think that you would want to make more per hour so to speak than what you are making at your club. That should be OK with your customer since he will be getting more bang for his buck. Its win-win. Ive only done privates with two dancers. The first was a one shot deal basically but with dancer number 2 we have an ongoing arrangement ;) Her per hour rate works out to about $300.
Once you discover he is interested, set up a play date on an evening when youre not planning to work (no sense cutting into your club earnings). Suggest dinner beforehand and then a motel. He'll pay for those items of course. Quote him a dollar figure you want to earn. I'm thinking $500 but its up to you. The idea is to make it "feel" like a date even though you both know its business. Its more fun that way (although some might disagree LOL) Be prepared to get the room yourself especially if your customer is married. He wont want a paper trail :o It might seem a little wierd at first (it did for me) so some generous alcohol comsumption before hand helps. With stripper #1 I bought a bottle and mixers which we took to the room. We were able to drink a few and talk before the main event. It was nice.
Good luck to you. Let us know how things work out.
FBR
After I posted I thought of something else. What you agree on may or may not be what actually occurs during the private. With dancer #1, our plan was to just do some full nude LD's in the hotel room. We wound up with oral on that private and then FS during a subsequent private a couple weeks later. Guess things clicked for us. Point being, be prepared for the unexpected. You might find that this guy really turns you on and you want to do more :P
FBR
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Re:Whats the best way to offer "the holy grail" ?
Thanks for the advice guys! My club charges 300 for an hour in VIP but I only get to keep 200 of it so I was thinking of cutting out the middleman so I could keep all 300. I'm comfortable with high mileage and thats the general rule in the clubs in my area anyway, plus this guy is a sweet, fairly goodlooking so I'm open to new things as far as he is concerned :D But I do want to be safe so I have another question...... Is it abnornal to ask for test results ? I would be more willing to please if I had double peace of mind ;) If he goes for it should I keep things uhm limited and offer more the next time in exchange for test results ? I don't want to blow the who fantasy idea out of the water but I dont want to do anything stupid to myself either :-\
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I would never be one to blow off safety. Do what makes you comfortable. Sounds like if hes willing to provide the paper proof you will make it worth his time and effort :P However, don't be surprised if he asks for proof from you also LOL
Sounds like you have already thought about what activities can occur. If it all works out I bet he will be one happy camper.
FBR
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Originally Posted by FBR link=board=10;threadid=1551;start=msg24439#msg2443 9 date=1087758129
However, don't be surprised if he asks for proof from you also LOL
FBR
ofcourse ;)
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Re:Whats the best way to offer "the holy grail" ?
Damn its a shame you are all the way down in Houston LOL
FBR
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Originally Posted by FBR link=board=10;threadid=1551;start=msg24439#msg2443 9 date=1087758129
.. If it all works out I bet he will be one happy camper.
FBR
Damn, i wish it were me...
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Re:Whats the best way to offer "the holy grail" ?
Ummmm.....which Houston club charges $300 for VIP and takes a dancer's cut? Are you still in Houston? Something doesn't seem right here...what club are you working?
If you want the real deal, PM me when you get this message instead of listening to men whose goal is to get the most action for the least money. If you are going to sell your ass, don't sell it short!
meow!
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Originally Posted by Katrine link=board=10;threadid=1551;start=msg24480#msg2448 0 date=1087787166
If you want the real deal, PM me when you get this message instead of listening to men whose goal is to get the most action for the least money. If you are going to sell your ass, don't sell it short!
Kat, my goal is Continuous Lite Fun for $100/hour. We're not all "max for the min" guys. One of my CLF girls sold her ass for almost $2K. I'm sooo proud of her. :)
Natasha, sooner or later, everyone in your club will know, and dancers will tell your other regulars. :-\
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Re:Whats the best way to offer "the holy grail" ?
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Originally Posted by Katrine link=board=10;threadid=1551;start=msg24480#msg2448 0 date=1087787166
Ummmm.....which Houston club charges $300 for VIP and takes a dancer's cut? Are you still in Houston? Something doesn't seem right here...what club are you working?
I thought the same thing. I don't know of any club in Houston that makes you pay VIP by the hour (although I've not been to The Men's Club...do they have a per hour charge in VIP?). It's usually just a one time pay upfront deal. And, quite frankly, while I'm sure that there are lots of idiots in Houston, paying $300 for an hour with a dancer (and just getting dances) is a bit...well, idiotic (sorry, but it is). In most Houston clubs you can get away with just as much on the main floor as you could in VIP. I've certainly never been in the VIP area of any club in Houston and have had loads of fun.
Then again, I don't want to start that whole "reasons for going to VIP" war again. :P
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Re:Whats the best way to offer "the holy grail" ?
oh sorry to confuse ya'll, I'm not working here right now. I moved out with a friend a few weeks ago but I don't really like it here too much. Clubs are a little to out in the open for my style ;) so I'm moving back and I want to max my earnings there so I can try a new city in the future and with a better plan this time ::) This move was fly by night since my friend didnt want to come alone.
Thanks Kat I 'll take you up on that :D
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Re:Whats the best way to offer "the holy grail" ?
So you're in Houston, but don't like Houston, right? So you're moving back to...somewhere that is not Houston.
Color me confused...just be sure to stay within the lines.
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Wow. Natasha, if you're for real :crossfingers:, you're already my favorite dancer on this site.
A few rules of the road, as it were. First, I would never recommend giving out a phone number or offering a private to a customer upon a first visit. One of my best experiences was with a gal who actually offered me a private VIP bed dance ("for as long as you want") at the club, but made me come back a second time before handing me her phone number. It was worth the wait.
How to ask? Thats easy. AFTER you've completed your set (did he tip? are you worth a tip?), simply drop the bombshell that you're available for outside activity. Most guys who are so inclined will take you up on the offer, and you can go into more details as you see fit.
As for rates, I believe in paying the prevailing escort rates for one full hour of GFE service. Here in LA, that's around $300, but I will go as high as $400 for a very, very special gal. In Houston, the rates are slightly lower (starting at $200), but three bills is certainly not unreasonable, especially for a "sure thing" for the customer.
Always play safe, both inside the room and outside. If you're serious about escorting, then either have him get a room or get a second place (trick pad) for your trysts. Try not to let any of your customers know what car you drive (or license plate) to protect your anonymity.
If you want more info, please feel free to PM me.
CP
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Re:Whats the best way to offer "the holy grail" ?
thanks for the license plate advice, I know this guy pretty well but I guess it never hurts to be extra careful no pun intended ;D
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Natasha I think if youre going to suggest some playing its best if its with a long term regular. You know him...he knows you...its all good.
FBR
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A couple of things to keep in mind...
If you offer privates, customers are going to assume it means sex-if it doesn't, make sure they understad that and be prepared to have them try and get it anyways...we are men, we can't help it.
Test results or not, don't let this guy's unit anywhere near you without a condom safely attached. We are men, we will screw anything that is willing and has a pulse. We will do it after we take the test and tell you we haven't been with anybody else if we are horny enough.
Be safe, be smart, protect yourself and watch your back. Nobody else will.
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Re:Whats the best way to offer "the holy grail" ?
He's a regular , over a year. And yes I agree about condoms, I was just thinking a test + condom would be even safer. so another question for you guys.... would you feel cheated if it wasn't an overnight thing ? It was suggested to me I should be prepared to stay all night and I am more interested in a afternoon or evening thing. What do ya'll think ?
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Re:Whats the best way to offer "the holy grail" ?
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Originally Posted by NaughtyNatasha link=board=10;threadid=1551;start=msg24526#msg2452 6 date=1087864647
so another question for you guys.... would you feel cheated if it wasn't an overnight thing ? It was suggested to me I should be prepared to stay all night and I am more interested in a afternoon or evening thing. What do ya'll think ?
An overnight thing? I'm starting to think you are a troll. Who would suggest an overnight to you? How much more would you charge for that? If this is real, no I wouldn't feel cheated if it wasn't an overnighter.
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I didn't take this thread seriously from the get go (Sorry Natasha) for a number of reasons:
1) There isn't a woman (or man for that matter) alive that wouldn't be able to figure out how to offer the Grail to a member of the opposite sex.
2) Someone labeled from Houston has obviously been in an environment where that whole thing is pretty commonplace... and while not suggesting all Houston dancers do this, they ARE all hip to it and around it.
3) The occasional "ya'all" and "ofcourse" (no space) combined with the liberal splashing and placement of smilies really reads near indentical to another female poster here. I could be totally wrong and there's someone else with identical style, but I'm guessing it's her (or someone else) messing with you boys for some sort of science project.
(<-- not sporting a testtube any time soon)
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Re:Whats the best way to offer "the holy grail" ?
ouch Polecat .This guy is a bit more reserved than most and I dont want to scare him off. I'd hate to lose the best reg I have at that club as soon as I get back. I am trying to get him to spend as much or more & more often. So... whatever ::)
evryone else, thanks for the help :-*
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Originally Posted by polecat link=board=10;threadid=1551;start=msg24530#msg2453 0 date=1087870486
1) There isn't a woman (or man for that matter) alive that wouldn't be able to figure out how to offer the Grail to a member of the opposite sex.
Well I know for certain that's not true outside of San Francisco. In that area though, you may be right. LOL
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Originally Posted by Katrine link=board=10;threadid=1551;start=msg24480#msg2448 0 date=1087787166
If you want the real deal, PM me when you get this message instead of listening to men whose goal is to get the most action for the least money. If you are going to sell your ass, don't sell it short!
thanks a lot, Kat! >:( i'm sure aggieed and the boys at TGSOE will appreciate your efforts to drive up the POP index. ;D ;)
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Well, I have no experience in this stuff personally but I will suggest for your legal safety as well as your customers, the clubs and all those who work there -- discuss this subject with your customer OUT OF THE CLUB like by phone or email.
What you do on your own time is your business but if you plan for this kind of thing IN the club you involve others in your illegal activity and that's just not right >:( Remember you never know who is listening at the next table.