The "If I DO end up getting a dance tonight . . . " guys
Okay, I'm sure we all hate these guys - me in particular because they sound like they're making a great deal with you. You lucky girl!
"I'll tell you what, if I do end up getting a dance tonight, I promise it'll be from you."
Anyone have any good ways to convince them otherwise? or at least a good comeback? }:D
Re: The "If I DO end up getting a dance tonight . . . " guys
Well, I would be just very bold with them and assume the sale right then and there. I would say, "Awesome, I really do know you want to have a dance tonight so would you like your dance here or would the VIP Room better suit our needs?"
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Wow greatly put....nice comeback without being rude
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I really need to take that Dancer Wealth course!! I woulld have drawn a blank, or said something like, okay well I will stop by later or something lame....nice one DancerWealth!!
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Always assume the sale with these types of guys as it is exactly the type of response they are not seeking. They will most likely like you all the better due to not being off-put by them (and being positive).
Then if they do say "maybe later" (yes, I totally know how much we all dispise that term)... assume they do mean "maybe later"... check back on them. If you assume that all "maybe later" responses mean a no... then you'll never find the ones that do genuinely mean later.
This is the thing ... to many dancer's aren't bold enough in my personal opinion. You can be bold without being rude, overbearing or anything else generally negative. It is confidence without being over-confident.
;D
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I always go back to the maybe laters, especially at my slow-ass club, though I had one guy that, 20 minutes to closing, respond with "I SAID later" I'm like "you realize we're closing in 20 minutes, right?" he's like "Uh-huh..." me: "So we'd better hurry up, you don't want to miss your chance." him: "No, thanks." >.<
Thanks guys! :)
Re: The "If I DO end up getting a dance tonight . . . " guys
dancerwealth, that seems a bit too pushy for anything like that to come out of my mouth. Good idea though. I just couldn't pull that off.
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I'd say 70% of guys really mean no but Dancerwealth's right to suggest going after that other 30%. I find they really do mean later--not never. And sometimes thay actually want multiple dances if they were disappointed with another performer.
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Originally Posted by tampafldancer
dancerwealth, that seems a bit too pushy for anything like that to come out of my mouth. Good idea though. I just couldn't pull that off.
There's nothing pushy about it. It's just a matter of dealing with resistance, that's all. Keep in mind that the cold hard facts about this industry is that it's a sales industry first and foremost. If this sounds like it may be too challenging for you to say because it sounds weird coming out of your mouth, it's possible or even probable that you are going to be struggling through the duration of your career as a dancer. If you want to start making the big $$$, you just need to do things a little differently that's all. It all starts with the types of mental programming that you use too. The more you tell yourself that you "couldn't pull that off" the more you are going to have difficulty using skills like that in the future. It's the same thing with anything else in life. If you are a smoker and you keep saying that it's difficult to quit, it will be difficult to quit. If you start telling yourself that it actually is easy to quit, guess what, you'll be a non-smoker sooner than you thought possible. Just food for thought.
Re: The "If I DO end up getting a dance tonight . . . " guys
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Originally Posted by Optimist
I'd say 70% of guys really mean no but Dancerwealth's right to suggest going after that other 30%. I find they really do mean later--not never. And sometimes thay actually want multiple dances if they were disappointed with another performer.
Absolutely correct. When you deal with situations like this, essentially what you are doing is increasing your income earning odds every night instead of just writing it off as a loss. Let's take what you said even further. Let's say this one technique works total of 2 times every night on average for, say 2 dances each time. That's $80 extra a night that is made just by saying one sentence!!!! Let's add that up and assuming that on a 4-night a week schedule working for 50 weeks of the year, that's a total of $16,000 a year by saying ONE SENTENCE! And that's with just one subtle selling technique. Pretty amazing when you see that in the big picture, isn't it?
Re: The "If I DO end up getting a dance tonight . . . " guys
To those guys I have 2 versions of the same response, depending on my mood and the guy's attitude:
1. (to guy with bad attitude) Ok, if you can catch me later.
2. (other guys) Ok, I'll stop by later if I have time. [smile] Have fun! [on to next guy]
I always keep busy so rarely have time to waste on indecisive dudes.
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dancerwealth, my money is not struggling. I am always a top earner at the clubs i work.
I am not an aggressive "sales person" but i find that to be to my best interest.
ok, SO maybe i could do a little better if i was more aggressive, but im happy with my earnings. I know if i were to use that line at my club, there would be a lot of angered men. That's just not my style.
YOU KNOW WHAT THOUGH... im working tomorrow, so i wll TRY your angle and report on it when i get back..
I guess i cant totally knock it until i try it.
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Originally Posted by tampafldancer
dancerwealth, my money is not struggling. I am always a top earner at the clubs i work.
Awesome. That's actually a very cool thing. Also know that just because you are #1 doesn't mean you can't be better still. ;D
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lol.. i edited my post before i saw that you wrote back..
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I ialways try to check back and ask " are you ready for that dance?" Of course I either whisper it in their ear or offer my hand as I speak. If it doesn't work then it is their loss and they can either find me later or not.
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If you get the "maybe later", definitely check back. As a customer i know there have been times where i was in the middle of a conversation with friends or possibly waiting for someone else to either show up or go away. i'd say if i said "maybe later" to someone, i mean it. in fact, it irks me a little if they don't come back. if i don't want a dance i have no problems saying "no thanks."
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Aye, I'd perfer the guys that just say no.
Part of the reason I ask is because with school being so hectic and holidays coming up [meaning time off work] I'm stuck at my ol' slow-ass club; we MIGHT see 15 customers during a weekday night and, at the most, 50 over the course of 7 hours on the weekend - to be split amongst 10-24 girls respectively. I basically try to make as much as possible from each patron. Even if it is a 70% chance of them NOT wanting dances later, I'll take the chance and ask later, and if there is a better way to convince a guy that he should indeed buy a dance tonight and especially if "I do it'll definitely be from you."
The other part is I don't like that reply [thank you all of you that say 'no thanks'] and like a comeback for it.
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oooh, I hate the "I'm fine right now" I didn't ask how you were doing! I like the no thanks as well, it cinches the deal, but a lot of guys really want us to hang out with them so they tease us with the possibility of getting a dance. I watched two of my friends sit with a group of guys for 2 hours because they kept sayig they would get a limo ride in a few minutes.. Did they? Nope, after wasting my friends time they left. Sheesh, I know customers want attention, but to do it that way is just plain wrong!
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Originally Posted by gypsy_girlchild
oooh, I hate the "I'm fine right now" I didn't ask how you were doing!
Hehe, or what about when you walk up to a guy and say "Hey, hun, how are you?" or "Hey, what's your name?" and they say "no, maybe later". Did I ask if you wanted a dance? ::)
Although last time I worked I got the opposite. I walked up to a guy and said "How's it going?" and he stood up and said "sure, let's go!" I was like "well, I asked how you were, but hey, that's fine too!" }:D