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Iran is a 4th world shithole and they should all be exterminated.
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My mom went to college with an Iranian woman. Fara claimed a woman could be stoned to death for public drunkenness in Iran. In my travels I have seen how fortunate American women are to be born in and live in the U.S. We have everyday rights that some women can only dream of.
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Originally Posted by scorpio
Iran is a 4th world shithole and they should all be exterminated.
Um, that's a pretty general statement. I'm Iranian. I don't agree with what happened or a lot of things that go on there, but you should watch your mouth. Exterminating everyone is not the answer, Hitler.
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You know, the funny thing is that the article is about a girl facing death and you talk about EXTERMINATION.
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Originally Posted by scorpio
Iran is a 4th world shithole and they should all be exterminated.
There are innocent ppl there too, that wouldn't be the right thing to do. :no:
Can you imagine being an innocent Iranian & being exterminated bc of other foolish ppl. :(
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thats the dumbest thing i have heard yet scorpio...
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And why aren't they executing the men who raped her and pimped her? And what about her mother? I say all the men over there should be lined up and systematically shot. fuckers
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I'm not going to jump on scorpio...I understand where he's coming from. I can't say more than that. Some cultures are waaay different from ours, in that life is truly cheap.
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eh, you are right, I shouldn't be so general. There are alot of good people there. What I should say is their political culture should be exterminated. If that is how they treat their women and children, then they are sub-human. If you support that, you are worse than Hitler.
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I once met a women that works with unfortunate prostitutes around the world, and has been to Iran many times, and must live under the cultural norms of their society.
I said that it is such a sad thing, all the women that are trafficed each year into this sort of thing.
She told me that many of the Iranian women that were prostituting themselves were greatful to have such a life filled with more freedom, rather then be controled by a sick, manipulative, abusive husband and be at home all times having babies, cooking and cleaning...can you imagine.
These cultures are turely sickening, and I have experienced close to this culture, first hand and it was terrible. Never again!!
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Originally Posted by anonymous1
You know, the funny thing is that the article is about a girl facing death and you talk about EXTERMINATION.
Exactly.
I also think the bigger question we need to ask ourselves is how can anyone think punishing violence with violence teaches anything other than violence.
The question of "how is that effective ? " just begs to be asked .
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Originally Posted by anonymous1
Um, that's a pretty general statement. I'm Iranian. I don't agree with what happened or a lot of things that go on there, but you should watch your mouth. Exterminating everyone is not the answer, Hitler.
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Circumstances such as those described herein are so foreign and repugnant to us that we tend to forget that there's a very important distinction between the acts of the government currently in power in some places and the beliefs/desires of the vast majority of the citizens residing in those very same places - and Iran, in particular, is an excellent example of that. In this regard, there is much evidence that the majority of the Iranian people would very much prefer to be living under a less oppressive regime that was governing more on the basis of law than religion, and allowing for far more interaction with the Western World than the one that's now in power - but, the reality of the situation being what it is, what they would "prefer" is of no import, as the current regime is firmly in control and dissent, of virtually any kind, equals death.
There's nothing inherently "bad" or "wrong" with the people of Iran... it's the few in control that are to blame.
Just my $0.02.
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Sad to say, but it seems that 90% of iranian MALES are nasty individuals over there. They are so controlling over women over there and treat them like shit.
Forget about the government, they are corrupt and ignorant.
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Originally Posted by GnBeret
There's nothing inherently "bad" or "wrong" with the people of Iran... it's the few in control that are to blame.
I agree. Don't blame the whole entity for a problem it cannot control.
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Originally Posted by Gabe
Sad to say, but it seems that 90% of iranian MALES are nasty individuals over there. They are so controlling over women over there and treat them like shit.
Forget about the government, they are corrupt and ignorant.
I most definitely do not support the treatment of women or most of the practices in certain parts of the middle east, but it has to be understood that there are extreme cultural differences. When you grow up learning that males dominate women, you will become an adult man who dominates women without thinking twice.
But that does not automatically condemn them to being bad people in need of severe punishments. It means taking steps toward societal change.
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But that does not automatically condemn them to being bad people in need of severe punishments. It means taking steps toward societal change.
But they ARE bad people in my eyes, even if they grew up learning that.
Sadly though, they do not want to change, they rather start a war over it.
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Originally Posted by Gabe
But they ARE bad people in my eyes, even if they grew up learning that.
Sadly though, they do not want to change, they rather start a war over it.
To each, their own. Obviously this is a topic which runs very personally and will never be agreed upon.
After all she went through, Anne Frank still believed that people were inherently good. I'd like to think the same.
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Some (not all) of the male-dominated attitudes over there were also accepted attitudes in our country 50 years ago. Did that make the males 50 years ago in this country "bad"?
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Originally Posted by Gabe
Sad to say, but it seems that 90% of iranian MALES are nasty individuals over there. They are so controlling over women over there and treat them like shit.
Forget about the government, they are corrupt and ignorant.
Gabe: As you're about to travel to the Mid-East (presumably for the first time), please try to go into it with an open mind and hold off on passing judgment until you've been there for awhile and had an opportunity to meet some of the people who live there in person. There's far more to the people, their culture(s), and their basic beliefs than you've been shown via the U.S. media, and there's much in both the people and the place that make it a very enchanting region of the world in a lot of different ways... but you'll miss it all if you're unable to rid yourself of preconceived notions and go into it with an open mind.
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Good to see that xenophobia and cultural intolerance are still predominant values held in this country. It reminds me of being teased as a kid for being a pinko commie whose parents talk funny. Or my neighbors, who wouldn't let their kids play with me, because when my folks fed them,they could be poising in the food, or worse, yet recruiting them for our evil communist doings...
Pooh on you! :(
I know many, many Iranians and Arabs for all of my life. They are the same as anyone, some are cool, some are assholes.
Even many western countries have gender values that are far more stratified than what we perceive is the best. Even here its often just an illusion....
Who else do you hate and think are BAD PEOPLE Gabe? C'mon now, lets be honest. How about those pesky Jews? Someone told me they are very cheap. Shall we blow them all up?
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Who else do you hate and think are BAD PEOPLE Gabe? C'mon now, lets be honest. How about those pesky Jews? Someone told me they are very cheap. Shall we blow them all up?
If they allow a 12 year old to receive the death penalty cause they had sex before marriage, then yes I hate them too. If they wait after school to rape the little school girls, then yes I hate them to and wish they die a horrible death.... Must I go on? Your missing the point little lady, im not racist. I could care less if their purple, green or pink. If they do wrong, I can choose to hate them.
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I know many, many Iranians and Arabs for all of my life. They are the same as anyone, some are cool, some are assholes.
There is no denying that, I never said ALL iranians are "bad". I said most are (in iran, excluding innocent children)
You are a stripper correct? Go to Iran, dress how you normally do, and tell them your a stripper. I'll count down how long something terribly bad happens to you.
Women over there can barely show bare skin.
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Originally Posted by Gabe
... I never said ALL iranians are "bad". I said most are (in iran, excluding innocent children)
You are a stripper correct? Go to Iran, dress how you normally do, and tell them your a stripper. I'll count down how long something terribly bad happens to you.
Women over there can barely show bare skin.
It's the GOVERNMENT currently in power, Gabe! Prior to 1979, she could have gone to Iran, dressed just as she does here, and would have had no problem whatsoever - prior to 1979, the legal system in Iran had been divorced from religion for nearly two decades, women had been accorded the right to vote (as well as most other basic rights - look up the Family Protection Act of the mid-60's), and it was considered perfectly acceptable for women to wear "western-style" clothing. In the decade prior to the fall of the Shah, Iran was considered THE most "westernized" country in the Mid-East!
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Originally Posted by Gabe
You are a stripper correct? Go to Iran, dress how you normally do, and tell them your a stripper. I'll count down how long something terribly bad happens to you.
Women over there can barely show bare skin.
Why would I go out of my way to be an asshole in a country that has a different, conservative culture? Plenty of Americans would like to see something bad happen to strippers and sex workers.
If you are going to create an analgous example to attack me with, please use something more logically sound and appropriate.
You don't know how I normally dress. Women in Iran wear headscarfs in public, its an old tradition for an old country. In private, they dress the same as we do....
Seriouly, maybe you need to go to university instead of Iraq and learn a little more.
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